yossa999

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I have to agree with PaxHadrian17, it looks like we're playing different games. It's probably a matter of expectations though, if you're expecting a typical college porn game, the book club scene really feels out of place. But the thing is that SG seems to be something quite different.

What is important here is a story that develops on several levels simultaneously. The theme of rivalry and the struggle for power seems to be one of the central ones in the game. At first, Nika doesn’t understand at all what’s going on here. Gradually, getting to know other characters, communicating and socializing, he studies the environment in which he will live in the coming years. Colleges compete with each other. Athletes fight for their place on sports teams. Coaches are concurring for the best staff positions. Girls traditionally squabble among themselves, constantly trying to dominate each other.

Then, around the fourth chapter, Nika roughly learned his surroundings, figured out who is who, assesses his capabilities, and begins to compete for the better place in the local hierarchy.

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Still, I can see why the book club scene might seem like a waste of time. This is when I treat SG like a porny college fuckfest where every female character is just a few holes for the MC to fuck. After all, that's the final goal. Then it’s really unclear why the hell bring in a bunch more sultry ladies if the MC can’t even mow the neighboring lawns. :HideThePain:
 

John972

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...where every female character is just a few holes for the MC to fuck. :HideThePain:
I did the math...

Female NPCs:

Adrianna, Alyson, Amber, Anna, Ayua, Bella, Celina, Charlie, Cindy, Claire, Desiree, Emilia, Eva, Miss Harrison, Coach Hill, Jenna, Karen, Katie, Kelly, Larissa, Layla, Louise, Madison, Maja, Miss Marla, Mikala, Mila, Molly, Nadia, Nami, Nancy, Nia, Penelope, Robin, Sasha, Silvie, Sonya, Susan Gale, Victoria, Zara, circa 20 other Hotties = 60 babes

Holes:

Mouth, Vagina, Anus = 3 holes per Female NPC (I left out the other 5 holes, 'cause that would be skull-fucking and that's just plain impolite)


Result:

There is a total of at least 180 holes to be penetrated by the MC's penis.

Recommendation:

I expect Ocean to introduce a running counter so we can tick off each and every hole penetrated as the game progresses... and, by God, they better all be raw by the end of the game. We are watching!

The battle royale between Nika and William Zane to be the biggest man-whore in the SG/WIAB-verse is the game we deserve!!! I hope there's no pencil-sharpener effect on Nika's dick, though.


Disclaimer:

I left out Summer ('cause that could turn out to be necrophilia) and Nojiko ('just doesn't seem right and hasn't she suffered enough?) from the Female NPC list.


2nd Disclaimer:

a BIG /S... obviously! ;) :)
 

Cabin Fever

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Ocean really needs to stop this WIAB shit no one cares about that game and it's lacks quality in writing compared to Summer's Gone
That begs the question - are you so arrogantly stupid that you think you can speak for everybody that no one cares about WIAB? Or are you just plain stupid and don't realize that there are lots of people who cares about WIAB?
 

deadh30775n

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That begs the question - are you so arrogantly stupid that you think you can speak for everybody that no one cares about WIAB? Or are you just plain stupid and don't realize that there are lots of people who cares about WIAB?
Guy must be a psychic
 

RedWyne007

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I dont know how many years will it take to get a decent sex scenes and progression but every few weeks i replay just because of nami.
I wish dev just focuses on this game.I understand working alone is hard but we are getting old if every update takes like a year with multiple damn branches.I love the game btw
 
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StingerWolf

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I dont know how many years will it take to get a decent sex scenes and progression but every few weeks i replay just because of nami.
I wish dev just focuses on this game.I understand working alone is hard but we are getting old if every update takes like a year with multiple damn branches.I love the game btw
If one thinks rationally that will be the case: 1. either one dies before game is done, 2. game gets abandoned. No matter which, logic dictates that we will not experience the finished game. So our only hope is, that somehow we get enough content by the time the game gets abandoned or we die, cause in a finished state we won't see this one for sure. But I think this is something everyone knows here.
 
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RedWyne007

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If one thinks rationally that will be the case: 1. either one dies before game is done, 2. game gets abandoned. No matter which, logic dictates that we will not experience the finished game. So our only hope is, that somehow we get enough content by the time the game gets abandoned or we die, cause in a finished state we won't see this one for sure. But I think this is something everyone knows here.
Well finally someone who thinks objectively.I really love the game but i dont know if it can be an excuse or not but patreon refuses my payment and i really want to support this game so he can see clearly that people expects progression for this game. I will buy the game on steam if he releases the chapter 6 before i get andropause.
 

turbojoe

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If one thinks rationally that will be the case: 1. either one dies before game is done, 2. game gets abandoned. No matter which, logic dictates that we will not experience the finished game. So our only hope is, that somehow we get enough content by the time the game gets abandoned or we die, cause in a finished state we won't see this one for sure. But I think this is something everyone knows here.
It´s really tragic: here we have one of the best AVN´s ever, but can assume it´s never get finished :cry:
 

torkenstiem

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It´s really tragic: here we have one of the best AVN´s ever, but can assume it´s never get finished :cry:
I see another "rework" in the near future. It's apparent to me, the MC will turn into the worlds biggest cuck (next to Will), with how Bella is treating him. Actually, I've only found three changes that made the story a little better. The rest just felt like a shot in the foot for me.
 

PaxHadrian17

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If one thinks rationally that will be the case: 1. either one dies before game is done, 2. game gets abandoned. No matter which, logic dictates that we will not experience the finished game. So our only hope is, that somehow we get enough content by the time the game gets abandoned or we die, cause in a finished state we won't see this one for sure. But I think this is something everyone knows here.
OK - so let's tackle the 'rational' comment first:

Any human endeavor can fail - from friendship, marriage, & job to New Year's resolution to lose X weight by Y date.

So - do we stop living and enjoying different aspects of life because this is a fact?

No

Determination and drive are keys to success, aka you get back up regardless of how many times you get knocked down.

Every creator has experienced this and every creator who is still active has gotten up one more time than they have been knocked down.

Is there a risk of the following: Ocean gets bored and stops creating, he gets hit by a bus and can no longer create, a CME hit Europe sending it into the dark ages, (insert any other disaster you want that affects small to large groups of people - Ocean included - up to and including the entire planet).

YES

Rationally - bad shit happens.

Rationally - good things also happen.

You posit, as certain: '1. either one dies before game is done, 2. game gets abandoned.'

I disagree.

Neither of us have the crystal ball to prove our points so we will simply have to agree to disagree about your certainty of doom.

Now:

Summers Gone is The most ambitious AVN I support with my $.

It has a creation horizon going into the 2040s at the current rate of creation.

This tells me I have decades to look forward to more of Summers Gone, and I view that as a good thing, another 'companion' for the journey that lay before me.

I get to enjoy a story with characters that resonate with me and take a journey with a Very good storyteller who is constantly working to improve his craft.

Would I like more story more often - Of Course!!

But I would not want it at the expense of diminishing the quality I've come to enjoy and associate with Summers Gone.


My final thoughts --

If SG stopped today and we got no more of this amazing AVN - I would still count every $ I spent supporting Ocean as well spent.

I would still rate SG as a top four AVN of all the AVNs I've enjoyed up to this date.

Good stories have and do enrich my life - Summers Gone is among them.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

BobTheDuck

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OK - so let's tackle the 'rational' comment first:

Any human endeavor can fail - from friendship, marriage, & job to New Year's resolution to lose X weight by Y date.

So - do we stop living and enjoying different aspects of life because this is a fact?

No

Determination and drive are keys to success, aka you get back up regardless of how many times you get knocked down.

Every creator has experienced this and every creator who is still active has gotten up one more time than they have been knocked down.

Is there a risk of the following: Ocean gets bored and stops creating, he gets hit by a bus and can no longer create, a CME hit Europe sending it into the dark ages, (insert any other disaster you want that affects small to large groups of people - Ocean included - up to and including the entire planet).

YES

Rationally - bad shit happens.

Rationally - good things also happen.

You posit, as certain: '1. either one dies before game is done, 2. game gets abandoned.'

I disagree.

Neither of us have the crystal ball to prove our points so we will simply have to agree to disagree about your certainty of doom.

Now:

Summers Gone is The most ambitious AVN I support with my $.

It has a creation horizon going into the 2040s at the current rate of creation.

This tells me I have decades to look forward to more of Summers Gone, and I view that as a good thing, another 'companion' for the journey that lay before me.

I get to enjoy a story with characters that resonate with me and take a journey with a Very good storyteller who is constantly working to improve his craft.

Would I like more story more often - Of Course!!

But I would not want it at the expense of diminishing the quality I've come to enjoy and associate with Summers Gone.


My final thoughts --

If SG stopped today and we got no more of this amazing AVN - I would still count every $ I spent supporting Ocean as well spent.

I would still rate SG as a top four AVN of all the AVNs I've enjoyed up to this date.

Good stories have and do enrich my life - Summers Gone is among them.

Cheers!! :coffee:
I agree, there is far to much cynicism when creative pursuits require a lot of sacrifices. One of the things is "the current rate of creation" - every extrapolation is based on current technology, not the stuff that will be available in a year or two. It is based on current work practice, rather than Ocean actually becoming successful enough to expand his team (first expanding into reliable sub contractors, then later maybe casual employees? Who knows?)

Extrapolating on the status quo would assume no inventions ever get made - history has shown human endeavour increases in complexity and discovery. So why is there not an equal belief in both potential sides of the coin? The negative disposition seems very disproportionate.

Ocean simply needs a little more velocity to get the ball rolling a little bit faster, and suddenly there are a lot more options. My predictions is that once the reworks are both done, they will take a huge weight off Ocean's mind, freeing up mental space to focus on going forward. CH3 in WiaB kinda will be that moment for that story, as it's already progressing differently to the original, enough that it's doing it's own thing and no longer a remake tying Ocean to the past work. SG will achieve that with CH5 full - only new content from then. THe second thing is the steam release - for better or worse, SG will be public, which means it is fixed in place. Ocean won't be able to do reworks like he can with patrons. That will also be good for Ocean - something that is locked off, that he can't return to, only build on.

I'm actually quite excited and hopeful for the next development cycle of SG CH6 and WiaB CH4. Both are developing in plot rapidly even if people's preferred kinks are somewhere over the horizon - I'm impatient to know more about what's going on.
 
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