VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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BobTheDuck

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Mortarion said:
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Maybe the braids?!

Have you ever plaited a braid? If so, you should know that hair gets extremely short after braiding. When I think of my daughters' hair, depending on how you braid it, you can easily achieve a 30%-50% reduction in hair length.
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This ...and we also know that hair in the Ocean verse doesn't obey normal physics anyway, hair is magic :sneaky:
 
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Ayhsel said:
Been on Katie's side since original version 0.3. (First version I played)

So i am at the top of the line. You guys, get behind if you want!!

The girl is mine!

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I been on her side since her first appearance period lol :p

However, we should probably take this to the other thread before we get told off. There really needs to be more of her in SG. We should start a campaign (sorry Bella and Victoria...but Katie will always be No. 1)
 
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Krytax123 said:
I agree about your conclusions about the bibi term, the emilio thing and the star wars parallels (theres way too much princess leia and hairbums lol).

I thought about Daphne (im sure shes Nami's mom) and why Nami isnt with her and the only real explanation i was able to come up with is that Daphne may have died ..

I disagree strongly about your Vanessa theroies tho, i dont think Leia would behave anything like Zara's mother is described. Leia can obviously be brutal and cold, but she isnt a fucking golddigger, shes way too ambitious and proud to behave like that and i dont think she would treat her kids like that, she was raised by Helen after all.

Vanessa's heterochromia looks very different from williams too so i tend to think she isnt his daughter. While i strongly believe that Aziz is willy's son, not only the possible heterochromia but his body seems similar to william's too and he would probably be the Zane-Revera link. While Sasha obviously is the Petrova link.

I can see your theory about Miss Coates being true, she could be a similar "hatefuck"-character like Becky from BaDIK for Wiab.

While there is NTR in Wiab, i cant see Ocean going the route of makeing any kind of NTR-child's canon for SG even if their may be will bad endings like that and even less from Leia.

I dont think Sasha's mom is Asavera but im still pretty sure she will turn out to be someone important and Willy's probably gonna rail her. Maybe she's Melanie Ceril's mother or someone totally unsuspected like Vic & Maja's Mother.

The look Katie gives Nika after his discussion with Robin's Mom imo screams: You're our blood.
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While this conversation imo proves that Nika and Nami are indeed Zane's, if the connection would be anything else, Noji would have the right to decide to prevent them from contacting her kids.
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My dream scene for a partially reveal of Nika's heritage would be at the holgerson gala, which im pretty sure Nika will attend. The invite probably will come from Vanessa or even Katie instead of Bella but im pretty sure Nika will be there and maybe meet Leia for the first time in SG.

I would love Stefan intending to kick Nika out because he's not important/wealthy enough just to be stopped by Leia and put in his place in front of everyone. But just an dumb idea i made up in my head, he would deserve it for this tho:
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I'm new here so correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I understand unlike WiAB there is no incest in SG. Yes, there is a patch, but it's not canon, right? I mean, if Nika is really Zane, then he's at risk of having sex with his sisters. I suppose that partly explains why most LIs block each other. Because half of them are related. And there's no harem.
 
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aleksff97 said:
I'm new here so correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I understand unlike WiAB there is no incest in SG. Yes, there is a patch, but it's not canon, right? I mean, if Nika is really Zane, then he's at risk of having sex with his sisters. I suppose that partly explains why most LIs block each other. Because half of them are related. And there's no harem.
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Correct, correct and correct.
 
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aleksff97 said:
I'm new here so correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I understand unlike WiAB there is no incest in SG. Yes, there is a patch, but it's not canon, right? I mean, if Nika is really Zane, then he's at risk of having sex with his sisters. I suppose that partly explains why most LIs block each other. Because half of them are related. And there's no harem.
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Uhm, imo there is incest. Its obvious that Nami and Nika are supposed to be siblings, its the usual roommate-excuse. Many of the LI's could be possible incest situation but without wiab you doent really know about it / it maybe doesnt matter in this case.

You can evade a romance with nami, in this case there is no incest (so far)
 
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BobTheDuck said:

I'd guess the Ceril's will be connected to career cop families in WiaB. I can't think that there's any connection between the Cerils and the Petrova's: All we have of Elena is from old WiaB - she looks like a classier version of Monica's model: blond like Sasha and Sasha's aunt, as opposed to two Ceril's who are both black haired. The Asavera thing is simply speculation on my behalf - it seems like the Petrovas have loads of money, but they're trained as thugs/bodyguards as well. I can imagine Leia and Asavera joining to wipe Wollust clean of Krayt... and maybe Donna who is the counsellor (maybe connections the religious cult?) helps them, as she's a sneaky angle, they join to make ZPR as an above board business to mark their territory?
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I really hope Kat isnt Zara's mom (and i dont think so at all) as i really like Kat haha, her whole attitude is the opposite of what was told about Zara's mom. Im 100% sure Zara's mom isnt a Zane but we will see.

Just to clarify, i didnt said that the Cerils and Petrova's are connected. I suspected the mother of the two Cerils being Asavera (instead of Elena). Having a kid as part of the Police later on could be beneficial for them or they cut their ciminal ties at some point but it was just a baseless speculation anyway.

And i can see Willy screw asavera whoever she is lol
 
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Krytax123 said:
Uhm, imo there is incest. Its obvious that Nami and Nika are supposed to be siblings, its the usual roommate-excuse. Many of the LI's could be possible incest situation but without wiab you doent really know about it / it maybe doesnt matter in this case.

You can evade a romance with nami, in this case there is no incest (so far)
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Agreed - it's pretty obvious to me that incest is intended as a possibility depending on the player's choices, but Ocean has to play the little game with Patreon and pretend it's not.
 
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Razrback16 said:
Agreed - it's pretty obvious to me that incest is intended as a possibility depending on the player's choices, but Ocean has to play the little game with Patreon and pretend it's not.
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Krytax123 said:
Care to explain the facepalm? Do you really think Nika and Nami are not related?
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Considering WiAB is an incest story...and is on Patreon..and has an actual proper patch....and that there is a story element of why Nika lives with who he does...and that if need more convincing, Ocean himself says it isn't....

Need I say more?
 
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Krytax123 said:
I really hope Kat isnt Zara's mom (and i dont think so at all) as i really like Kat haha, her whole attitude is the opposite of what was told about Zara's mom. Im 100% sure Zara's mom isnt a Zane but we will see.

Just to clarify, i didnt said that the Cerils and Petrova's are connected. I suspected the mother of the two Cerils being Asavera (instead of Elena). Having a kid as part of the Police later on could be beneficial for them or they cut their ciminal ties at some point but it was just a baseless speculation anyway.

And i can see Willy screw asavera whoever she is lol
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Ah, I understand what you mean re the Ceril's now, that's a good conspiracy thought there.

And yeah, I also like Kat, but I kinda feel WiaB will have some pretty dark moments, and we'll see the fallout from that in SG, so who knows what might happen? She's simply the only one of the Zane clan with brown eyes, and Nick's aren't brown. I'll admit I don't know how those kind of genetics work, but my guess is Ocean's not following the rules, just going for what looks plausible enough and hints at certain connections.
 
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Maviarab said:
Considering WiAB is an incest story...and is on Patreon..and has an actual proper patch....and that there is a story element of why Nika lives with who he does...and that if need more convincing, Ocean himself says it isn't....

Need I say more?
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Yeah, your delusional or next-level coping and your reasoning very bare-bones.

Its the same with wiab like with SG, there isnt any mention of incest in the story without the patch, William's Twin-Sister Leia is his best friend . Ocean will never officially state that either Wiab or SG are incest storys as it would fuck his patreon over as you concluded. Both AVN's have Incest-patches.

There is a story element why he lives with Nojiko, not why Nami and him are living together so far. Come on, they are very obviously siblings, there a quite a few dialogues in SG too which are nonsensical if they arent related (Zara asking Nika why Nami is a redhead, Nami's whole behavior, Maja and Vic somehow not being sisters and more, nika & nami being asked if they are a couple and they explaining that they are "roommates") and Nami's entire conflicted feelings wouldnt make any sense anymore too.

And even in case that they werent siblings (they are) or not blood related (they are), they would have to be adopted by Noji which would turn them into siblings again which means its incest.

Wiab is literally where Summers gone began too ..

So yeah, fuck your facepalm
 
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Razrback16 said:
Agreed - it's pretty obvious to me that incest is intended as a possibility depending on the player's choices, but Ocean has to play the little game with Patreon and pretend it's not.
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If the thing with Nika is Zane turns out to be true, it would have a colossal impact on the story and affect whole chunks of content, not just a couple lines of dialog. Or William/Leia will appears in front of Nika and just tell him "Hey, man. Anyway, you're my tenant." Nah, I don't think so.

In WiAB the incest storyline works because it's not a potential twist and not such a big deal outside of William and Leia's relationship.
 
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