VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Hahn1900]

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Hello,

The last log was mostly about S1 & Ch2. This log now includes some new Season 2 stuff.

How so?

Well, I got an upgrade.


If you don't care about hardware and behind-the-scenes stuff. Scroll down until the previews start.


I was running into a wall with a scene in SG. I couldn't render it as it featured the big classroom & 11+ visible characters.

Sure, I could've used fewer characters but that's not the solution to the issue.

Especially in the college, I want to show crowded scenes with lots of students and professors running around.

I value immersion more than the actual image quality by now.

At first, I tried to render the scene in two images. (Hide half the people -> Render it -> Show/Hide the other half -> Render it -> Put together in Photoshop.

It didn't work. The scene is so crowded and everyone so close to one another that the shadows were fucked and seams started to form.

I also tried to remove some characters, but I couldn't even render the 7 characters. (From 12 to 7.)

Then I wanted to move that scene over to the WiAB PC to render it with the A6000. Yeaaah, the WiAB PC was lacking 50-100 assets that I would've had to hunt down.

And the new Cloud library is still uploading (It's been weeks.).


So I reached out to a B2B business in Germany that sells hardware and asked them for an offer for two A6000 Ada's.

These fuckers come in at 10k€ in Germany. Each.

So, I talked to them over the phone and told them what I would need... and that I'm looking for a reliable hardware business to work with.

I got both A6000 Ada's for 13k. I also didn't buy them but leased them, as it's super easy to deduct 100% of the cost as a business expense.

And the best/saddest part? The leasing rate of these cards together is less than 40% of my monthly energy bill. Let that sink in.


I didn't like the Ada. I didn't want to get it. And now I tested them for two days.

I knew they would be slower than my current setup...

But I was wrong. Those Ada's outperform my 4090+3090 easily.

I have some numbers:

4090 + 3090

Render 1: 6:28min

Render 2: 8:42min



2x A6000 Ada:

Render 1: 5:13

Render 2: 7:01



The reason I didn't want to get the Ada was that they got rid of the NvLink and memory pooling.

But I found an SLI option in the Nvidia settings... And I think it somewhat works.



I went back to the scene I couldn't render previously and rendered it without any issues. (12 Characters).

I then noticed something funny... The cards were only using 25 GB VRAM out of 48.

How is that possible?

If that was the case, the 4090 & 3090 should've been able to render the version with 7 characters. (These cards have 24GB VRAM and the scene would've definitely dropped below 24GB by removing 5 characters.)

That's why I think the SLI (NvLInk) actually works to a degree. Theorethically I could render this scene with 24-26 characters.

That's amazing.



So yeah, I gave in and got myself two Ada's for a "decent" price and now have a friendly relationship with a B2B Hardware business in Germany. (Which will help a lot in the future.)

And I'm very impressed by the Ada's. I never expected them to be faster than my 4090+3090.

They also only use half the energy compared to the 4090/3090 combo.

I could also add two more of them to the case.



I hate to say it... But the Ada's delivered.

Prepare for some big, immersive scenes in the future.



And now I'll answer the question from the beginning: How am I able to do Season 2 again?

Thanks to the Ada, I can now do what I've been doing with WiAB for SG.

Work on two updates at the same time.
Previously, I couldn't do it if any scene featured more than two characters. (In each Daz instance).



Alrighty, let's start with the Season 2 previews. (Limited to three.) 4K attached.

Judging by how S1 ended. Season 2 has different starting routes. (Mila, the Cheeto & solo)

Some Mila.
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I'm kinda sick of the Cheeto's open hair. It's such a low quality asset. I also don't like to use her ponytail all the time, so I've begun to experiment with new hairstyles.
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The look the Cheeto gives you while you try to explain, why taking a bath together is a bad idea before she dismisses everything you just said with a funky "Yo!"
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Now to the current priority target. Season 1.

Sadly, the A6000s arrived after I finished the basketball scene... So I had to limit myself there.

But the basketball is done and only a few smaller scenes are left and then I'll need to do the postwork and... Oh god... The gallery for Chapter 2 & Chapter 5.

Some more basketball comparisons. 4k Attached.

I had to laugh a few times when I checked out the older images... Like what the actual fuck.

Old (Bella slamming MC into oblivion.)
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Obviously, the new version has a much better dynamic. Bella isn't a hulk anymore, you'll actually deal some blows to her too this time, and the scene flows much better.

New
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Less than 200 lines are left. I can see the light.

It also feels so good to work on Season 2 again.


Oh, I almost forgot. I've also started to work on the first Blender cinematic. It's the new Intro for SG, as I sadly had to remove the old one due to music license issues.

I bought the license for the new intro song almost two years ago. Since then this intro cinematic has been in my head... and soon I get to use the music.


I feel good.

I hope you do too.

- Ocean

Thanks for posting, so finally season 1 will be finished and the rework too... didnt play chapter 5 yet cause i wanted to wait until everything is done (kinda) i knew that chapter 2 had some rework to be done left.

Kinda strange thaough about the A6000. Iam from germany too, so.... i looked them up and, yeah... well, what can i say, many good traders have them for around 5100€-5300€... even amazon got them for 5300-5500... but Ocean paid 13.000 for 2 cards... dont know the reason behind that, but, yeah thats at least 2000 too much. *shrug* its his money. And he even mentioned that he thaught one A6000 is about 10.000€ each in germany, well... no its not. And the traders i looked up are legit and well known in germany too. So... yeah dont understand him here. Maybe some special versions of the A6000? But i dont even can find anything other than the founder edition. *shrug*

Nontheless, those A6000 are really nice to have for his kind of work and renders he is looking for.

I guess we may can expect the final version of season 1 during february (hopefully) and maybe a little faster coming updates in the future... hence the better hardware and that he is setteling in his new place and all that out of the way.

 

[yossa999]

Kinda strange thaough about the A6000. Iam from germany too, so.... i looked them up and, yeah... well, what can i say, many good traders have them for around 5100€-5300€... even amazon got them for 5300-5500... but Ocean paid 13.000 for 2 cards... dont know the reason behind that, but, yeah thats at least 2000 too much. *shrug* its his money. And he even mentioned that he thaught one A6000 is about 10.000€ each in germany, well... no its not. And the traders i looked up are legit and well known in germany too. So... yeah dont understand him here. Maybe some special versions of the A6000? But i dont even can find anything other than the founder edition. *shrug*

A6000 Ada. It's a slightly different beast.

 

[hermit_tr]

Thanks for posting, so finally season 1 will be finished and the rework too... didnt play chapter 5 yet cause i wanted to wait until everything is done (kinda) i knew that chapter 2 had some rework to be done left.

Kinda strange thaough about the A6000. Iam from germany too, so.... i looked them up and, yeah... well, what can i say, many good traders have them for around 5100€-5300€... even amazon got them for 5300-5500... but Ocean paid 13.000 for 2 cards... dont know the reason behind that, but, yeah thats at least 2000 too much. *shrug* its his money. And he even mentioned that he thaught one A6000 is about 10.000€ each in germany, well... no its not. And the traders i looked up are legit and well known in germany too. So... yeah dont understand him here. Maybe some special versions of the A6000? But i dont even can find anything other than the founder edition. *shrug*

Nontheless, those A6000 are really nice to have for his kind of work and renders he is looking for.

I guess we may can expect the final version of season 1 during february (hopefully) and maybe a little faster coming updates in the future... hence the better hardware and that he is setteling in his new place and all that out of the way.

RTX 6000 ADA and RTX A6000 are 2 different GPUs

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[Hahn1900]

oh yeah of course... kinda missed the "ada"... so yeah, that explains it. Dunno why i oversaw that. to get 2 of those for 13k € is a very good deal though...

 

[hermit_tr]

Even though we talked a lot about her, she still wasn't a love interest, but Marla is a love interest and will never lose her status.
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I still don't understand what Marla has that these three don't have.
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Yeah, I know we still don't know what Ocean's plans are for Marla, so don't waste your time writing an essay about it.
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Ocean once said:

LI = Gets an ending.
Many Non-LI's are still lewdable.

I can't care about people getting pissed. They'll always find a reason to get pissed.



Because no matter how irrelevant a character might be, they deserve my full attention when creating them.
I don't like it when a dev creates walking, unattractive hulls just because they're not the focus of the game.

There are tons of beautiful girls with amazing personalities in the world, but not every one of them is meant to play a role in your life.

Every single character that appears is part of the composition. Give them some life (soul), and make em somewhat pretty.
If you do create a lot of characters, do it right.

It adds immersion when even BG characters can add something to the eye and mind.


I get your point if this was a simple dating Sim where the only goal is to fuck everyone, but it isn't.



There is no "Marla over Maja", in the same way as there is no "Bella over Maja."

Maja's role in the game just isn't the one of an LI. (She's lewdable, but doesn't get a happily ever after ending with the MC.)
The MC isn't a blank hull that is compatible with every character beyond a fling/FWB.

And the most important variable is Victoria.
Maja would ALWAYS choose Victoria over the MC.

And it doesn't matter if the player likes Victoria or not.
Victoria likes the MC, and Victoria's feelings and well-being are what's important to Maja.


Marla's role doesn't come from being stunning on the outside. She isn't a classy porn trope "Milf."
She's what you'd find under the category "Mature".

And more important, looking good doesn't make you an LI.
The story behind the person determines if you get to be one.


And because I rewrite things in the BG (Future Chapters), there's always a small chance for a previous Non-LI to become one.
But the chance for some is extremely low.




No character in the game is modeled after an RL person.

That would be a pain in the ass to do considering the limitations Daz has (and the High-Res Sculpt block on Zbrush if you're not a PA).

 

[nobody0]

Ocean once said:

Meh, ocean is swinging and missing with that one. Or maybe I'm just not into milfs.

 

[Alexanderson037500aa]

Ocean once said:

 

[sorco2003]

Ocean once said:

It's hard to accept the reason Ocean gives when all LI's are stunning, and in the same answer a few lines above he says that all the girls in the background are stunning because he likes to work that way and in reality not all the pretty girls are part of your life.
But, it's his reason and we have to live with it.

 

[Myscho]

Changes is scenes again, well, im gonna replay the game like 4th time when S1 will be out

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Changes is scenes again, well, im gonna replay the game like 4th time when S1 will be out

This is the final part of the rework of Season 1 prior to the Steam release.

This rework has been ongoing for more than one year and Ocean is wrapping up the last third of CH 2 as well as fixing continuity issues (renders/logic).

We just got some nice S2 renders since Ocean's hardware upgrades now allow him to work on two iterations of SG simultaneously.

If you are a Nami fan - here is what we get to look forward to in S2:



Life in Summers Gone is Looking Good!

Cheers!!

 

[Myscho]

This is the final part of the rework of Season 1 prior to the Steam release.

Thank God

Im more Mila or that banana girl fan

 

[ItsNotUs]

This is the final part of the rework of Season 1 prior to the Steam release.

This rework has been ongoing for more than one year and Ocean is wrapping up the last third of CH 2 as well as fixing continuity issues (renders/logic).

We just got some nice S2 renders since Ocean's hardware upgrades now allow him to work on two iterations of SG simultaneously.

If you are a Nami fan - here is what we get to look forward to in S2:

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Life in Summers Gone is Looking Good!

Cheers!!

I have never spoken out against the fact that he corrects old content, character, renderings and etc., but when he does this several times, it’s already a waste of time!
Example:
The previous version of Nami was great, why waste time making new her, and make her bodybuilder?

 

[deadh30775n]

I have never spoken out against the fact that he corrects old content, character, renderings and etc., but when he does this several times, it’s already a waste of time!
Example:
The previous version of Nami was great, why waste time making new her, and make her bodybuilder?

Thats the problem of being a perfectionist.
He may think that if he can create perfect renders, perfect his writing, basically a perfect game he can avoid or minimize the pain of not being recognised, harsh judgment, and low bank balance. It's like a shield. It's a twenty-ton shield that he lugs around thinking it will protect him when, in fact, it's the thing that's really preventing him from taking flight.

 

[Maviarab]

Thats the problem of being a perfectionist.
He may think that if he can create perfect renders, perfect his writing, basically a perfect game he can avoid or minimize the pain of not being recognised, harsh judgment, and low bank balance. It's like a shield. It's a twenty-ton shield that he lugs around thinking it will protect him when, in fact, it's the thing that's really preventing him from taking flight.

That has to be one of the dumbest things I've read. I think he is more than well recognised in this particular field. More than the majority.

 

[El_Magnifico]

I have never spoken out against the fact that he corrects old content, character, renderings and etc., but when he does this several times, it’s already a waste of time!
Example:
The previous version of Nami was great, why waste time making new her, and make her bodybuilder?

Because that's an improvement.

 

[ItsNotUs]

Because that's an improvement.

Because of these improvements, this game and the other, have been tampered with the plot or more than years!
Yes, they are becoming visually better, but again, the previous version of the same Nami was excellent, why bother with this? After all, it takes time, you can’t argue with that! It turns out that you wait a year and because of the steam version he cut all the "sex" content - how could he delete the scene of Nami and MC in the jacuzzi? Scene was so hot!
I'm not complain - it's just a fact!
But you won’t argue that during the year of development the the plot barely progressed and most likely several months of this period were spent on so-called improvements!

 

[yossa999]

It turns out that you wait a year and because of the steam version he cut all the "sex" content - how could he delete the scene of Nami and MC in the jacuzzi?

You seem to have answered your own question, he could and did delete the scene because of the Steam version.

At least the game exists, is developing, getting better and has a good chance of getting onto Steam.
While many of the great games I was following around the same time I started following SG were already abandoned. Or were rejected by Steam and later abandoned because of the frustration of their developers.

 

[ItsNotUs]

You seem to have answered your own question, he could and did delete the scene because of the Steam version.

At least the game exists, is developing, getting better and has a good chance of getting onto Steam.
While many of the great games I was following around the same time I started following SG were already abandoned. Or were rejected by Steam and later abandoned because of the frustration of their developers.

This is not a literal, but a figurative question, it is clear that he deleted everything "hot" because of the steam version, and as i understand that in the second season everything "hot" for the future content will not be deleted, but when will this be?
For me, this is not an improvement, this is a downgrade!
It’s just a shame, because his games are very good, but need to wait a whole year to play new content, while a lot of things will be redone, and i have to start the game from the very beginning every time!

 

[yossa999]

This is not a literal, but a figurative question, it is clear that he deleted everything "hot" because of the steam version, and as i understand that in the second season everything "hot" for the future content will not be deleted, but when will this be?
For me, this is not an improvement, this is a downgrade!
It’s just a shame, because his games are very good, but need to wait a whole year to play new content, while a lot of things will be redone, and i have to start the game from the very beginning every time!

I have made it a rule to answer figurative questions in this thread in the most serious manner. Although, it's unlikely my credit, but questions like “Is this game abandoned” seems have been asked less often lately.

Nobody knows when the first chapter of S2 will be released but Ocean. Judging by the latest devlog, he has already done half the number of renders of the average chapter for S2CH1, but all his numbers should be treated with a grain of salt. Anyway, this is good progress, given the parallel preparation for Steam release and the recent WiAB release.

I understand that you (and me too) want the story to continue, but from a developer's point of view, a successful release on Steam is much more important now, and I think that is where he is now applying his main efforts, polishing the full version of the first season.

And why the Nami preview from devlog is a rework? It's a new render made for a new S2CH1 chapter.

 

[turbojoe]

Thank God

Im more Mila or that banana girl fan

Me too (without # ), the "banana girl" is Nadia