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I hope we see them in WIAB... I have many unanswered question about Nojiko... If we say that Willy is the father of SG MC (everybody say Nika, but they don't call him so in they game, so I refuse to call him so), how the hell did he end in Nojiko's house? If he was a child without mother (we don't know who is her mother, we know his parents died, but we don't even know if that's true...) they could be in prison, we know only what we see from both stories. Means, his (SG MC) parents are alive in WIAB... Nojiko is probably they friend or something, there is no way he would end up in Nojiko's house otherwise... Especially if he has his roots in Zane family..
I know i´m going to upset some people here, but i use the incest patch for SG so... For me the only canon story is my path :LOL::rolleyes:
Nah but being serious now the connection between Wiab and SG is fantastic. Maybe he is working in two games because that, maybe he wants people make theories about the connections between both games.
 

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By the way, I was thinking that theoretically we could see Marla in the past (Wiab)
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And not only her; Nojiko and Amber are there too... It's difficult to say how big is the time gap between WIAB and SG, but Amber is a late teen probably in WIAB.
well, I would estimate 20 years. Look at Katie's two pictures and judge for yourself.

What makes it even more interesting is the fact that the Katie we know from WIAB has absolutely nothing in common with the Katie from Summer's Gone. What has happened there?
Dare I say, where it all began is what happened before :sneaky: (sorry not sorry)

I hope we see them in WIAB... I have many unanswered question about Nojiko... If we say that Willy is the father of SG MC (everybody say Nika, but they don't call him so in they game, so I refuse to call him so), how the hell did he end in Nojiko's house? If he was a child without mother (we don't know who is her mother, we know his parents died, but we don't even know if that's true...) they could be in prison, we know only what we see from both stories. Means, his (SG MC) parents are alive in WIAB... Nojiko is probably they friend or something, there is no way he would end up in Nojiko's house otherwise... Especially if he has his roots in Zane family..
We know the gap in time as Ocean has said it was 20 years. Even if we didn't have Ocean's timeline, or he changed it, we have to have enough time for Ayua to be a Zane baby from inception (no Zane is pregnant in WiaB) to college age. We've established this, and will probably have to keep passing the info down through the thread for people who can't find the dev logs buried between talk about video cards :sneaky: Based on 20 years, Amber is going to get pregnant with Bella soon in Wiab's time.

Regards the presence of characters earlier, it is most likely we'll see them as easter eggs if they're not directly relevant ie Amber might not be there as a part of the plot in WiaB, but she might be there as a side character dancing at Leia's nightclub, or having drinks with friends at the bar etc. Or she might be a later part of the story, where we see her meet Mr Von Halen, who knows?

Something I've been cosnidering about the book club - so many of them are associated with interesting backgrounds. One thought I have is that some of the book clubs members might be ex working girls from Leia's club, and that might include Noji. We don't know anything for certain about what Katie's interest in Nika and Nami is, only that Noji has been going to the same bookclub with Katie and Leia for years as well as working with Scarlet. We might discover her connection to Leia runs deep in WiaB, but it'll be a while before we know anything like that, Ocean won't spoiler SG with WiaB and vice versa. The reason I think this is an interesting avenue for thought is when we saw Emilio in WiaB, suddenly we have all kinds of new potential plots or angles appear, and certain things seem more plausible (still creeped out by Desiree creeping through the college in the background).

Something about Marla - I think if we see her in WiaB, it'll explain why Nika is 'part of her problems'. She might have been a bystander during some of the events, maybe she saw what happened to the Cyrus's.

Finding these things out is impossible though, just like we never expected Emilio in WiaB, even if they appear, Ocean loves misdirection.
 

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Dare I say, where it all began is what happened before :sneaky: (sorry not sorry)



We know the gap in time as Ocean has said it was 20 years. Even if we didn't have Ocean's timeline, or he changed it, we have to have enough time for Ayua to be a Zane baby from inception (no Zane is pregnant in WiaB) to college age. We've established this, and will probably have to keep passing the info down through the thread for people who can't find the dev logs buried between talk about video cards :sneaky: Based on 20 years, Amber is going to get pregnant with Bella soon in Wiab's time.

Regards the presence of characters earlier, it is most likely we'll see them as easter eggs if they're not directly relevant ie Amber might not be there as a part of the plot in WiaB, but she might be there as a side character dancing at Leia's nightclub, or having drinks with friends at the bar etc. Or she might be a later part of the story, where we see her meet Mr Von Halen, who knows?

Something I've been cosnidering about the book club - so many of them are associated with interesting backgrounds. One thought I have is that some of the book clubs members might be ex working girls from Leia's club, and that might include Noji. We don't know anything for certain about what Katie's interest in Nika and Nami is, only that Noji has been going to the same bookclub with Katie and Leia for years as well as working with Scarlet. We might discover her connection to Leia runs deep in WiaB, but it'll be a while before we know anything like that, Ocean won't spoiler SG with WiaB and vice versa. The reason I think this is an interesting avenue for thought is when we saw Emilio in WiaB, suddenly we have all kinds of new potential plots or angles appear, and certain things seem more plausible (still creeped out by Desiree creeping through the college in the background).

Something about Marla - I think if we see her in WiaB, it'll explain why Nika is 'part of her problems'. She might have been a bystander during some of the events, maybe she saw what happened to the Cyrus's.

Finding these things out is impossible though, just like we never expected Emilio in WiaB, even if they appear, Ocean loves misdirection.
To me, the most interesting revelation with meeting Emilio in WIAB, and him being Leia's right-hand man, is that he has no idea who Nika is when they meet in SG. Why? Is it because Nojiko was so successful so shielding Nika and Nami from the whatever happened in their collective "past?" Did Emilio just not associate Nika with events or people he knows from the past? Is Nika and Nami's past so secret that not even the Zane family right-hand man has knowledge of it? Are Nika and Nami simply not as important to the Zane family story as we all think?

After meeting Nika in SG, Emilio initiated a background check on Nika (because of his concern for Bella) while Nika resolved to ask Emilio to find out what happened to Summer. If Nika and Nami do have a secret past involving the Zane family in some way, then I think future meetings between Nika and Emilio could be among the most interesting sub-plots in SG.
 

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To me, the most interesting revelation with meeting Emilio in WIAB, and him being Leia's right-hand man, is that he has no idea who Nika is when they meet in SG. Why? Is it because Nojiko was so successful so shielding Nika and Nami from the whatever happened in their collective "past?" Did Emilio just not associate Nika with events or people he knows from the past? Is Nika and Nami's past so secret that not even the Zane family right-hand man has knowledge of it? Are Nika and Nami simply not as important to the Zane family story as we all think?

After meeting Nika in SG, Emilio initiated a background check on Nika (because of his concern for Bella) while Nika resolved to ask Emilio to find out what happened to Summer. If Nika and Nami do have a secret past involving the Zane family in some way, then I think future meetings between Nika and Emilio could be among the most interesting sub-plots in SG.
you have interesting ideas. Very interesting...

But then I have another initial question: Is Emilio still Leia's right-hand man?

btw. He doesn't have the background check specifically arranged, but only purely as a matter of fact
 
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To me, the most interesting revelation with meeting Emilio in WIAB, and him being Leia's right-hand man, is that he has no idea who Nika is when they meet in SG. Why? Is it because Nojiko was so successful so shielding Nika and Nami from the whatever happened in their collective "past?" Did Emilio just not associate Nika with events or people he knows from the past? Is Nika and Nami's past so secret that not even the Zane family right-hand man has knowledge of it? Are Nika and Nami simply not as important to the Zane family story as we all think?

After meeting Nika in SG, Emilio initiated a background check on Nika (because of his concern for Bella) while Nika resolved to ask Emilio to find out what happened to Summer. If Nika and Nami do have a secret past involving the Zane family in some way, then I think future meetings between Nika and Emilio could be among the most interesting sub-plots in SG.
100% agree. But also consider that WiaB Emilio doesn't have tatts and SG Emilio having tatts might mean jail time.

Nika's conception might occur prior to the events that lead to Emilio's time in prison, and the pregnancy might have all happened and the CYrus's car crash done before he gets out. He might be Leia's right hand in WiaB, but that doesn't mean he's the spymaster. He might be the fresh faced apprentice, and he fall from that position leads him to become involved with the gangs (gang tatts instead of prison maybe?) and then develops his information network.

Remember how he says Bella reminds him of someone? The fact that Katie and Leia both go to the book club in recent history, but Emilio is reminiscing might mean he's no longer on the Zane's side, but is an independant now, on the outside.

Regards parentage, I'm leaning to the idea that we will meet Nika's parents, but just like Emilio's appearance in WiaB was unforeseen, the Cyrus's will also be a surprise.

If it's about shielding Nika from the Zane's, Noji is doing a superbly bad job of shielding Nika and Nami. Nika is going to college with a Z, a P and an R. Noji socialises with the Zanes still (the book club), she mentions it to Nika and Nami, but implies it's something recent rather than for years. She's keeping the dynamic completely hidden, but the socialising implies there is no need to isolate them. Katie can bump into Nika whenever she wants, so maybe there is some form of asserting dominance over Noji but doing what she did? Letting Noji know that it's futile to try to stop the ZPR juggernaut? We still don't know their interest in Nika, parentage aside.

I'm reminded of Stefan saying he doesn't know any Cyrus - if he's expanded the family business and runs a newspaper (and is the reporter's boss maybe?) this implies he doesn't know anything newsworthy about the Cyrus's, which implies either what happened was buried, or they were completely normal.


you have interesting ideas. Very interesting...

But then I have another initial question: Is Emilio still Leia's right-hand man?

btw. He doesn't have the background check specifically arranged, but only purely as a matter of fact

For whatever reason, my post didn't post, I had some thoughts about that exact thing.
 

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To me, the most interesting revelation with meeting Emilio in WIAB, and him being Leia's right-hand man, is that he has no idea who Nika is when they meet in SG. Why? Is it because Nojiko was so successful so shielding Nika and Nami from the whatever happened in their collective "past?" Did Emilio just not associate Nika with events or people he knows from the past? Is Nika and Nami's past so secret that not even the Zane family right-hand man has knowledge of it? Are Nika and Nami simply not as important to the Zane family story as we all think?

After meeting Nika in SG, Emilio initiated a background check on Nika (because of his concern for Bella) while Nika resolved to ask Emilio to find out what happened to Summer. If Nika and Nami do have a secret past involving the Zane family in some way, then I think future meetings between Nika and Emilio could be among the most interesting sub-plots in SG.
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you have interesting ideas. Very interesting...

But then I have another initial question: Is Emilio still Leia's right-hand man?

btw. He doesn't have the background check specifically arranged, but only purely as a matter of fact
100% agree. But also consider that WiaB Emilio doesn't have tatts and SG Emilio having tatts might mean jail time.

Nika's conception might occur prior to the events that lead to Emilio's time in prison, and the pregnancy might have all happened and the CYrus's car crash done before he gets out. He might be Leia's right hand in WiaB, but that doesn't mean he's the spymaster. He might be the fresh faced apprentice, and he fall from that position leads him to become involved with the gangs (gang tatts instead of prison maybe?) and then develops his information network.

Remember how he says Bella reminds him of someone? The fact that Katie and Leia both go to the book club in recent history, but Emilio is reminiscing might mean he's no longer on the Zane's side, but is an independant now, on the outside.

Regards parentage, I'm leaning to the idea that we will meet Nika's parents, but just like Emilio's appearance in WiaB was unforeseen, the Cyrus's will also be a surprise.

If it's about shielding Nika from the Zane's, Noji is doing a superbly bad job of shielding Nika and Nami. Nika is going to college with a Z, a P and an R. Noji socialises with the Zanes still (the book club), she mentions it to Nika and Nami, but implies it's something recent rather than for years. She's keeping the dynamic completely hidden, but the socialising implies there is no need to isolate them. Katie can bump into Nika whenever she wants, so maybe there is some form of asserting dominance over Noji but doing what she did? Letting Noji know that it's futile to try to stop the ZPR juggernaut? We still don't know their interest in Nika, parentage aside.

I'm reminded of Stefan saying he doesn't know any Cyrus - if he's expanded the family business and runs a newspaper (and is the reporter's boss maybe?) this implies he doesn't know anything newsworthy about the Cyrus's, which implies either what happened was buried, or they were completely normal.





For whatever reason, my post didn't post, I had some thoughts about that exact thing.
Given Emilio's background, what he discovers from his deep-dive into Nika's past will be interesting, even if he was not party to anything relevant back in the day. Of course, it's all up to Ocean how this does or does not play out. Emilio could conceivably uncover the Mother Lode/Holy Grail but not divulge any of it to Nika [i.e. us, the players].

So, when Nika next meets Emilio (and it was supposed to be during the same weekend where season 1 finishes), what occurs will be fascinating one way or another.
 
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What if Emilia is Emilio in drag? ...Nami never mentioned what kind of porn she was watching... :unsure:
I heard a conspiracy theory that the band, The Kinks, foresaw this scenario 54 years ago, but slightly modified their song lyrics at the last minute:


Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my
[Emi]lio - [Emi]lia
La-la-la-la lio-lia
La-la-la-la lio-lia
 

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I have a question specifically for BobTheDuck and Maviarab :

Since you are our "old hands", have you ever talked about this:


What if...
WIAB book one is (or rather: volume one) and
Summer's gone book two (volume two) is???
 
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I have a question specifically for BobTheDuck and Maviarab :

Since you are our "old hands", have you ever talked about this:


What if...
WIAB book one is (or rather: volume one) and
Summer's gone book two (volume two) is???
I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but yes, Ocean wrote WiaB as the first game, and SG is the continuation. But it's not a direct continuation, it's like in the Wheel of Time Books where perspectiv shifts to a different character. WiaB has Willi as the MC, and it's entirely possible that we'll see cameos of Willi in SG. But he will not be the MC in SG, he might even get in Nika's way, we don't know.

Basic events are WiaB > ~20 year gap where Nika grows up > SG. Flashbacks in SG are things that happened in the ~20 year time.

The problem with this is that all the events to WiaB could be revealed by characters in SG, as it's their past, and anything revealed in WiaB will give us strong hints to SG. ie if Miru gets pregnant to Willi in WiaB, we almost 100% know Ayua is WIlli and Miru's daughter, rather than just assuming it.

Ocean's plan is to tell one big story with many facets. Originally he had more games planned, but I think he'll role elements into these two as he expanded their concepts quite a lot.

Because we play both as they are released though, it's like the book flips between chapters. SOmeone playing int he future might not have the same sense of discovery and anticipation we do; if they play WiaB, any appearance of Emilio is like 'oh hey' when they see him in SG. But for us, Emilio is just an barber. Then we find out from Bella about the blackmarket, then we have the reveal in WiaB, which he was never in until Ch3 of WiaB. SO we have a very unique and interesting perspective which despite the patience required, makes the games far more interesting. Once they're completed, people playing the linear stories in either won't have the backwards and forwards we've had while following the development.
 

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To me, the most interesting revelation with meeting Emilio in WIAB, and him being Leia's right-hand man, is that he has no idea who Nika is when they meet in SG. Why? Is it because Nojiko was so successful so shielding Nika and Nami from the whatever happened in their collective "past?" Did Emilio just not associate Nika with events or people he knows from the past? Is Nika and Nami's past so secret that not even the Zane family right-hand man has knowledge of it? Are Nika and Nami simply not as important to the Zane family story as we all think?

After meeting Nika in SG, Emilio initiated a background check on Nika (because of his concern for Bella) while Nika resolved to ask Emilio to find out what happened to Summer. If Nika and Nami do have a secret past involving the Zane family in some way, then I think future meetings between Nika and Emilio could be among the most interesting sub-plots in SG.
He was momentarily distracted by Nika's hair style. "Where the hell is all that wind coming from that's blowing it around? The AC isn't even on..."
 

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Yeah... the constant complaining is getting rather annoying. If the update cycle's not something you can cope with, or the rework & changes to the story aren't things you can live with... then why not leave? These grand announcements of how this user won't play the game because of X, and that user hates it because of Y... they're getting quite old. If these things bother you so much, why not leave and scratch Summer's Gone off of your list? Why stay to announce to the world that you decided not to pirate this game? Like omg! Whatever will Oceans do about a random F95 user who decided that they're no longer going to pirate his game?? :cautious:

I honestly get the frustration; some of it is definitely warranted... but some of you need to relax. Find another game to play... or better yet, do something rather than stalking these pages waiting for the right moment to meme about how your grandkids may finally experience the end of this game. Since I'm probably the only girl here right now, I'll say it. It's kind of sad that for some of you, your only comments are about how Oceans is a bad developer, how the development cycle upsets you, or some other flaw of this game. My goodness, find something else to do because seeing so many users add nothing more to the conversation than ripping on the game... gets proper annoying. Often enough, I saw people voicing their praise for the game, saying how much they love this and can't wait for that, and some of you guys will show up(out of nowhere) and go out of your way to kill their joy for the game. It's literally crazy how some of you will go out of your way to do this kind of stuff. Hundreds of games on this site, and you choose to spend your time annoying people in SG's thread. That's... kind of sad

Some of you will hate me for this(if you don't already), but I'll say it anyway. Some of these critique/review posts seem disingenuous... almost as if some people came here just to complain. The last few pages have been 70% made up of people complaining that they'll never see the end of this game and the fact that Oceans will rework this game to death. If you truly believe that, truly believe that Oceans will never improve and genuinely believe that Ocean's pace will stay the same forever... leave. If you think honestly that Oceans is out to rework this game every single season... leave. Save yourselves the heartache. This thread can do without all of the extra negativityღ

Like I can't stress enough how dumb this all isღ
I'd say you have a responsibility to ALL those people giving you money, such as your Patrons and Steam, since they are you income streams. It isn't about like or dislike, it's about facts. I am also not writing this to have a go at you at all, I have no reason to.

You see, a lot of developers quite happily take the route of remastering their game, and I personally have no issues with that, it's their game, you know? However some developers and I hate to say this, do so, to drag out how much money they skim from their patrons.
I am not going to comment about this game, and by that I mean it's quality or lack there of, because I simply do not know, because I can't remember if I have ever played it or not.

The thing with these types of games, is that they open to critique whether you or anyone likes that. They have the simple right to say what they think. You have to have a hard-shell, or how do you say it? stone skin? It is all part of the circle of developing games, releasing them, people critiquing them, whether good or bad and you taking on the chin or not, or just ignoring it altogether, which is the best way to go.

I have played some games, where the reviews where so bad, I had to check them out, and guess what? I have really enjoyed them. People have diverse tastes and kinks. I hate NTR and general sandbox games and homo-erotica, I simply can't stand it but that is just me, unless they [sandbox games] are ultra special, because I want a story, not actually playing a game.

Telling people to leave is not the right thing to do. Unless you want people to start really disliking you. Hate is too much of a negative emotion, and it's not worth even thinking about. If you don't wish to respond then don't, sometimes it's much better to say nothing at all, don't let it bother you, and people will move on. Everyone makes mistakes. Making a av is difficult and time consuming, and it is easy to fall into the trap of redoing the whole thing over and over, which is when it's time to give up on it.

Some people will continue with their novel, and when they have finished their update, they will actively work on the remake or remaster, and take it in turns to develop each. The idea is to launch the remaster when you bring the other game to an end, this way people can't bitch and scream about anything, they are getting their small updates, while your working on the remaster and they know it because you told them. If you don't wish to go that route, no problem, just keep doing whatever it is your doing.

The more friends you can build the better, the more likely people are to buy your game on steam, because not everyone can afford to subscribe to dev's patreon pages month in and month out, like I said, you need to learn to take whatever is thrown at you, and either not respond or only respond to those that are not being rude.

I wish you lots of luck in your game!
 

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I have a question specifically for BobTheDuck and Maviarab :

Since you are our "old hands", have you ever talked about this:


What if...
WIAB book one is (or rather: volume one) and
Summer's gone book two (volume two) is???
I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but yes, Ocean wrote WiaB as the first game, and SG is the continuation. But it's not a direct continuation, it's like in the Wheel of Time Books where perspectiv shifts to a different character. WiaB has Willi as the MC, and it's entirely possible that we'll see cameos of Willi in SG. But he will not be the MC in SG, he might even get in Nika's way, we don't know.

Basic events are WiaB > ~20 year gap where Nika grows up > SG. Flashbacks in SG are things that happened in the ~20 year time.

The problem with this is that all the events to WiaB could be revealed by characters in SG, as it's their past, and anything revealed in WiaB will give us strong hints to SG. ie if Miru gets pregnant to Willi in WiaB, we almost 100% know Ayua is WIlli and Miru's daughter, rather than just assuming it.

Ocean's plan is to tell one big story with many facets. Originally he had more games planned, but I think he'll role elements into these two as he expanded their concepts quite a lot.

Because we play both as they are released though, it's like the book flips between chapters. SOmeone playing int he future might not have the same sense of discovery and anticipation we do; if they play WiaB, any appearance of Emilio is like 'oh hey' when they see him in SG. But for us, Emilio is just an barber. Then we find out from Bella about the blackmarket, then we have the reveal in WiaB, which he was never in until Ch3 of WiaB. SO we have a very unique and interesting perspective which despite the patience required, makes the games far more interesting. Once they're completed, people playing the linear stories in either won't have the backwards and forwards we've had while following the development.
Thanks for Bob...on the ball early this morning :sneaky: (y)
 

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I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but yes, Ocean wrote WiaB as the first game, and SG is the continuation. But it's not a direct continuation, it's like in the Wheel of Time Books where perspectiv shifts to a different character. WiaB has Willi as the MC, and it's entirely possible that we'll see cameos of Willi in SG. But he will not be the MC in SG, he might even get in Nika's way, we don't know.

Basic events are WiaB > ~20 year gap where Nika grows up > SG. Flashbacks in SG are things that happened in the ~20 year time.

The problem with this is that all the events to WiaB could be revealed by characters in SG, as it's their past, and anything revealed in WiaB will give us strong hints to SG. ie if Miru gets pregnant to Willi in WiaB, we almost 100% know Ayua is WIlli and Miru's daughter, rather than just assuming it.

Ocean's plan is to tell one big story with many facets. Originally he had more games planned, but I think he'll role elements into these two as he expanded their concepts quite a lot.

Because we play both as they are released though, it's like the book flips between chapters. SOmeone playing int he future might not have the same sense of discovery and anticipation we do; if they play WiaB, any appearance of Emilio is like 'oh hey' when they see him in SG. But for us, Emilio is just an barber. Then we find out from Bella about the blackmarket, then we have the reveal in WiaB, which he was never in until Ch3 of WiaB. SO we have a very unique and interesting perspective which despite the patience required, makes the games far more interesting. Once they're completed, people playing the linear stories in either won't have the backwards and forwards we've had while following the development.
As i remember,dev said that 24y passed from the Wiab's start.Nika and Nami birth after 4-5y from Wiab's start.Then after 3y parents death (?),then after 5y meeting Summer,then again 5y-Summer disappearance,another 5y-Start SG.But that official information for Patreon rules.Everething could change.

PS: Regarding the posibility that William or Leia are parents. It may very well be. Snakes are generally not known for being good parents. The males disappear after their simple task, the females lay eggs and also disappear. And remembering William or Leia, they hardly will be good parents.
 

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I'd say you have a responsibility to ALL those people giving you money, such as your Patrons and Steam, since they are you income streams. It isn't about like or dislike, it's about facts. I am also not writing this to have a go at you at all, I have no reason to.

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The more friends you can build the better, the more likely people are to buy your game on steam, because not everyone can afford to subscribe to dev's patreon pages month in and month out, like I said, you need to learn to take whatever is thrown at you, and either not respond or only respond to those that are not being rude.

I wish you lots of luck in your game!
I think you need to read this answer to a similar post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-13132420

She responded to those who were extremely rude and annoying and for a warning, the mods linked her post to the OP. She had nothing to do with highlighting this particular post this way and responding to this old post of hers now is pointless.
The thread has gone through several massive clean-ups since then (and before then), so the floods of shitposts she was responding to at the time, are long gone.

Also, Lady Fortuna is not the developer, just one of us. And normally very respectful, even to those who clearly don't deserve it.
Oceans, the developer left F95zone because of the same shitstorm.
 
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As i remember,dev said that 24y passed from the Wiab's start.Nika and Nami birth after 4-5y from Wiab's start.Then after 3y parents death (?),then after 5y meeting Summer,then again 5y-Summer disappearance,another 5y-Start SG.But that official information for Patreon rules.Everething could change.

PS: Regarding the posibility that William or Leia are parents. It may very well be. Snakes are generally not known for being good parents. The males disappear after their simple task, the females lay eggs and also disappear. And remembering William or Leia, they hardly will be good parents.
I don't know the specifics, but Ocean has got a few things messed up in his timelines and can't stay with a consistent boob size, so I'll take a ballpark figure :) as long as it's long enough for Ayua to exist and enroll, it's the right amount of time. Everyone in Wollust might been so worn out by WiaB happing on their doorstep that they wanted a break from procreation for a few years, so nothing's certain :sneaky:
 

rudy007

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I don't know the specifics, but Ocean has got a few things messed up in his timelines and can't stay with a consistent boob size, so I'll take a ballpark figure :) as long as it's long enough for Ayua to exist and enroll, it's the right amount of time. Everyone in Wollust might been so worn out by WiaB happing on their doorstep that they wanted a break from procreation for a few years, so nothing's certain :sneaky:
Agree with you about boob size, every update +1 boob size. How many updates to go before their boobs are ridiculous big? Ayua was perfect, why update her. I like when developers take care about his game, but update something with less good is very counterproductive...
I like Oceans game very much, but it's time to concentrate on updates, let Ayua's old face and stop messing with girls boobs...
:LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO:
 
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