VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Prime9287]

But the real question is, if he was an hour away from uploading to steam can we expect the update by the end of the week ?

 

[Mortarion]

But the real question is, if he was an hour away from uploading to steam can we expect the update by the end of the week ?

That depends on how much time steam needs to approve the game, or if there are some points in the build that needs to be changed.

 

[alanrock]

But the real question is, if he was an hour away from uploading to steam can we expect the update by the end of the week ?

Mid-April, if we are lucky ...

 

[Tremonia]

But the real question is, if he was an hour away from uploading to steam can we expect the update by the end of the week ?

No. The Steam version and the Full version are the same. If Steam founds something what needs to get changed, it will get changed. The Full version comes when Steam releases.

 

[sorco2003]

That depends on how much time steam needs to approve the game, or if there are some points in the build that needs to be changed.

Before that, I need to know if the build was already assembled, if that build was saved (I guess it was) and then the Steam time would run, which according to the check list is no more than 5 working days.

 

[imzahai]

It seems like you just dont understand patreon, you're not buying a game there, youre supporting a dev/project. Its based on the idea that you want to help the dev to finish/continue his project because you like it. Its pretty simple.

If someone supports with 150/month on patreon while not being able to afford it, there isnt patreon to blame, its just the person to blame whos either unresponsible with money or dense, but im pretty sure the person would waste their money for other stuff anyway in this case lmao

I think youre right about the perfectionism part but i dont consider it a problem, SG wouldnt have the quality is has if he wouldnt be like that and there really are enough devs who produce half-hearted garbage all the time.

actually my comment, "... so it was likely a better investment than his supporters. ..."
shows you have reading comprehension issues rather than i have patreon concept comprehension issues.
but its no biggie as i said, the business plan via patreon doesn't encourage them to be prompt, like a normal production business would [of any kind].
and i agree about Ocean's quality especially when compared to a lot of the other offerings here.

 

[johnmnf692]

This game is pretty incredible. Honestly, it should be a crime to make such an abundance of gorgeous lovable characters and stick them all into one game that doesn't seem to have a harem path. This does, however, lead to one of the game's biggest issues, which is simply that I can't actually tell which characters are and aren't full LIs other than the handful of characters from the beginning that have demarcated paths and/or stats in the mod. Like, Robin, Nia, and Zara, are they LIs, or are they just prominent side characters? I can only assume that Sasha and Sonya are since I've seen them marketed pretty heavily, even though they both have very little content.

There's some weird continuity stuff with the classroom change which I don't think quite makes sense and also Nia's backstory. Nami says that she saw Nia fucking some guy on her stream, but Nia acts as though she's never done something like that, saying things like "girls who are lucky enough to have guys to do this with" and that she doesn't bring guys to her place because they only see her as a trophy. It's not necessarily inconsistent, but it does seem incongruent with how Nia is written during the scene at her place, although I suppose she could've just been lying/omitting certain details, but I don't think that would really fit either.

As a personal aside, I really hope that Bella is a virgin, she keeps teasing the MC about it, but with the way she's withdrawn from pretty much everyone other than her close female friends, it wouldn't make any sense for her to have hooked up with some rando, or even to have had a boyfriend.

I'm also holding out hope, perhaps futilely, that the Nami Bi-sexual variable is a gateway to some kind of multi-LI ending.

 

[lorkdubo]

This game is pretty incredible. Honestly, it should be a crime to make such an abundance of gorgeous lovable characters and stick them all into one game that doesn't seem to have a harem path. This does, however, lead to one of the game's biggest issues, which is simply that I can't actually tell which characters are and aren't full LIs other than the handful of characters from the beginning that have demarcated paths and/or stats in the mod. Like, Robin, Nia, and Zara, are they LIs, or are they just prominent side characters? I can only assume that Sasha and Sonya are since I've seen them marketed pretty heavily, even though they both have very little content.

There's some weird continuity stuff with the classroom change which I don't think quite makes sense and also Nia's backstory. Nami says that she saw Nia fucking some guy on her stream, but Nia acts as though she's never done something like that, saying things like "girls who are lucky enough to have guys to do this with" and that she doesn't bring guys to her place because they only see her as a trophy. It's not necessarily inconsistent, but it does seem incongruent with how Nia is written during the scene at her place, although I suppose she could've just been lying/omitting certain details, but I don't think that would really fit either.

As a personal aside, I really hope that Bella is a virgin, she keeps teasing the MC about it, but with the way she's withdrawn from pretty much everyone other than her close female friends, it wouldn't make any sense for her to have hooked up with some rando, or even to have had a boyfriend.

I'm also holding out hope, perhaps futilely, that the Nami Bi-sexual variable is a gateway to some kind of multi-LI ending.

He rewrote the shit out of the story and made it not as ntr stupid as he planned. As an example, Where It All Began had heavy ntr content that was simply stupid and badly written. Now, the rewritten story is more well grounded, and I frankly do not see any of the previous shit he did. Even the present ntr content is no more than a tease than you really have to look for.
Now, from what we can see in Summer's Gone. Its heavily hinted that Nia is a virgin, but it's not important that she is a virgin per se, but given past information that we can infer that she is, so it makes sense that she is a virgin given past trauma and profession. In case of Bella is kind of 50/50 where it makes sense that she is given the information we were provided, where she does not form any kind of emotional connection and is way to cagey. Could she have had sex on a one-night stand? I guess she can and is perfectly valid, but Dev would only do that to piss people off, to be honest, as the background provided can make Bella a virgin easily, and given the community stances on this subject, he gains more than he loses. Still, it's a pretty minor subject, and 90% of the community will quickly brush it off.

 

[johnmnf692]

He rewrote the shit out of the story and made it not as ntr stupid as he planned. As an example, Where It All Began had heavy ntr content that was simply stupid and badly written. Now, the rewritten story is more well grounded, and I frankly do not see any of the previous shit he did. Even the present ntr content is no more than a tease than you really have to look for.
Now, from what we can see in Summer's Gone. Its heavily hinted that Nia is a virgin, but it's not important that she is a virgin per se, but given past information that we can infer that she is, so it makes sense that she is a virgin given past trauma and profession. In case of Bella is kind of 50/50 where it makes sense that she is given the information we were provided, where she does not form any kind of emotional connection and is way to cagey. Could she have had sex on a one-night stand? I guess she can and is perfectly valid, but Dev would only do that to piss people off, to be honest, as the background provided can make Bella a virgin easily, and given the community stances on this subject, he gains more than he loses. Still, it's a pretty minor subject, and 90% of the community will quickly brush it off.

Personally, only Nami or Summer (if she is reintroduced as a LI) not being virgins would ruin the game for me. Bella would be super disappointing, and it would lower her on my personal tier list, but it wouldn't kill the game for me. I think Nia is just kind of confusing because not everything is reworked yet, but yeah, it would also be disappointing if she weren't a virgin, although I didn't even expect her to be until I finally got to her place.

 

[imzahai]

Personally, only Nami or Summer (if she is reintroduced as a LI) not being virgins would ruin the game for me. Bella would be super disappointing, and it would lower her on my personal tier list, but it wouldn't kill the game for me. I think Nia is just kind of confusing because not everything is reworked yet, but yeah, it would also be disappointing if she weren't a virgin, although I didn't even expect her to be until I finally got to her place.

the game MORE than hints Nia is in fact a virgin. innocent of course not, she is a cam girl, but she is socially awkward, and hints during a shower scene that she doesn't have dating experience or the parts that go with it.

none of which should be relevant, same with Bella, her 'exhibitionist' behavior in getting partially naked in public and being all over the MC is NOT the behavior of a virginal teen. it doesn't mean she isn't one, just the markers are there indicating she isn't... which again shouldn't be relevant.
all of that is Back Story for each of the Characters. does the MC want all of the rest of the story's cast to Judge him solely based on his past, and not current behavior, and their own interactions him?

Bella, Nia, Sasha, Ayua, Mila, et al will still be just as hot and desirable as they are, unless you find out Sia was their Ex during an intimate scene [or one of the other more prominent male NPCs]

i mean after all, if Mario (micro-penis) had had all of them 50x its not like you would even notice it physically.

 

[Old Man Al]

Personally, only Nami or Summer (if she is reintroduced as a LI) not being virgins would ruin the game for me. Bella would be super disappointing, and it would lower her on my personal tier list, but it wouldn't kill the game for me. I think Nia is just kind of confusing because not everything is reworked yet, but yeah, it would also be disappointing if she weren't a virgin, although I didn't even expect her to be until I finally got to her place.

The story and conversations pretty much state that Nami is a virgin. And as she is so fixated on the MC it would make literally no sense if someone else had done the deed. She just "used simps to do stuff for her", which is a bit shitty, but then simps will always be simps and it cannot really be helped.
Summer could be a crack whore for all I care, that is were my viewpoint is completly different from the MCs. And because of that I doubt she ever will return. Ocean would have to make MANY more flashbacks to make her someone I care about.
Bella is a wildcard, she is rebellious and it could well be she is no virgin. I personally don't care if she is, even on my Bella route. She is not 14 or 15 so she has every right to have had sex before she met the MC.

 

[Zeniks1895]

Personally, only Nami or Summer (if she is reintroduced as a LI) not being virgins would ruin the game for me. Bella would be super disappointing, and it would lower her on my personal tier list, but it wouldn't kill the game for me. I think Nia is just kind of confusing because not everything is reworked yet, but yeah, it would also be disappointing if she weren't a virgin, although I didn't even expect her to be until I finally got to her place.

Let me help you satisfy your curiosity.

Nia's not a virgin. Confirmed by Nami during the gym scene ( as long as you take her with you). Ocean did rework some of the gym scenes. For example, he completely reworked the scene with Mila and partially reworked the scene with Bella, but at the same time according to his statement gym scene with Nami he did not touched, therefore the above information is likely to remain relevant.

Bella's not a virgin. Confirmed by Ocean via Discord. A screenshot of his post has popped up a couple of times here on the forum, if you're interested, you can look it up. I suppose you have a false impression that because of her past traumas and difficult character she has remained innocent (at least that's the impression I got at first), but in chapter five she makes it clear that she has plenty of female and male friends. She most likely did not have a long-term relationship with anyone and probably lost her virginity during a one-night stand, but that's just my guess.

Nami's a virgin. Confirmed by Nami herself twice during the game (a scene of watching pornography together and a visit to Victoria).

We also know for sure that Vic is a virgin and Mila isn't. I can't say anything about Summer.

 

[yossa999]

Nami and Vic are virgins, they explicitly say so in chapter 4x5. However, even before this, there were half a dozen confirmations that Nami was a virgin.

As for Nia, something is unclear with her.

The gym talk between Nami and the MC:

n "I saw one of her videos once.. And I instantly remembered her."
d "You sure you aren't lesbian?"
n "She got fucked by a dude in the video."
n "But lately she's only streaming solo.."

So unless it's fake video, Nia isn't a virging.

Later in the shower between Nami and Nia, the topic of Nami's virginity was brought up and Nami said that she didn't want to lose her virginity in a quicky. At first, it seems like Nia is indirectly confirming that she had sex:

n "I don't want to lose my virginity in a quicky."
nia "Understandable."
nia "But you should think about losing it."
nia "You're missing out on some really great stuff."

But the rest part is strange:

nia "It was the best decision I ever made. I became proactive. The day I turned eighteen, I started a business on my strengths...
nia "I got more confident and money is not an issue anymore- even tho I am stil-... Never mind."

"I am stil-" what? Unconfident? Or weird? Or lonely? Or a virgin (given the convo context)?

So I'd give 1% for Nia being a virgin.

 

[johnmnf692]

Nami and Vic are virgins, they explicitly say so in chapter 4x5. However, even before this, there were half a dozen confirmations that Nami was a virgin.

As for Nia, something is unclear with her.

The gym talk between Nami and the MC:


So unless it's fake video, Nia isn't a virging.

Later in the shower between Nami and Nia, the topic of Nami's virginity was brought up and Nami said that she didn't want to lose her virginity in a quicky. At first, it seems like Nia is indirectly confirming that she had sex:


But the rest part is strange:


"I am stil-" what? Unconfident? Or weird? Or lonely? Or a virgin (given the convo context)?

So I'd give 1% for Nia being a virgin.

I know all of this, I even pointed out that Nami said she saw Nia get fucked on stream, in my first post. The point is that what Nia says at her apartment doesn't necessarily align with that perfectly. The way she talks is as if she's never filmed with a guy before.

 

[johnmnf692]

Let me help you satisfy your curiosity.

Nia's not a virgin. Confirmed by Nami during the gym scene ( as long as you take her with you). Ocean did rework some of the gym scenes. For example, he completely reworked the scene with Mila and partially reworked the scene with Bella, but at the same time according to his statement gym scene with Nami he did not touched, therefore the above information is likely to remain relevant.

Bella's not a virgin. Confirmed by Ocean via Discord. A screenshot of his post has popped up a couple of times here on the forum, if you're interested, you can look it up. I suppose you have a false impression that because of her past traumas and difficult character she has remained innocent (at least that's the impression I got at first), but in chapter five she makes it clear that she has plenty of female and male friends. She most likely did not have a long-term relationship with anyone and probably lost her virginity during a one-night stand, but that's just my guess.

Nami's a virgin. Confirmed by Nami herself twice during the game (a scene of watching pornography together and a visit to Victoria).

We also know for sure that Vic is a virgin and Mila isn't. I can't say anything about Summer.

I am already aware of all of that. It may well be the case that Bella just fucked some rando to lose her virginity, but in my opinion, that wouldn't be particularly consistent with her character or with Nadia and Ayua's reactions to her simply kissing the MC. I'm aware of the years old discord post about Bella not being a virgin, my hope is simply that that has changed, it certainly wouldn't be the first change in either of Ocean's games. I think that the way Bella is written it makes way more sense for her to be a virgin than not, from both an in-universe and Meta perspective.

 

[lorkdubo]

I know all of this, I even pointed out that Nami said she saw Nia get fucked on stream, in my first post. The point is that with what Nia says at her apartment doesn't align with that perfectly. The way she talks is as if she's never filmed with a guy before.

It will all become clear after Season 1 comes out and we can play the game in 1 sitting, all reworked. The story and actions are a bit disjointed. Ocean changes his mind to much to have a clear view of the story to be honest.

 

[yossa999]

I know all of this, I even pointed out that Nami said she saw Nia get fucked on stream, in my first post. The point is that what Nia says at her apartment doesn't necessarily align with that perfectly. The way she talks is as if she's never filmed with a guy before.

Well, if it was a one-time thing and if it wasn't a wonderful experience, that might perfectly explain why she became even more awkward around guys.

 

[Niuul]

It will all become clear after Season 1 comes out and we can play the game in 1 sitting, all reworked. The story and actions are a bit disjointed. Ocean changes his mind to much to have a clear view of the story to be honest.

Very much looking forward to season 1 being completely finished so we can be done with the reworks. Feel like the story has been progressing at a snails pace since half the time spent on an update was reworks while the other half has been moving the story forward slightly. Hopefully with reworks done Ocean can focus more on story cohesion from update to update.

 

[BobTheDuck]

This game is pretty incredible. Honestly, it should be a crime to make such an abundance of gorgeous lovable characters and stick them all into one game that doesn't seem to have a harem path. This does, however, lead to one of the game's biggest issues, which is simply that I can't actually tell which characters are and aren't full LIs other than the handful of characters from the beginning that have demarcated paths and/or stats in the mod. Like, Robin, Nia, and Zara, are they LIs, or are they just prominent side characters? I can only assume that Sasha and Sonya are since I've seen them marketed pretty heavily, even though they both have very little content.

There's some weird continuity stuff with the classroom change which I don't think quite makes sense and also Nia's backstory. Nami says that she saw Nia fucking some guy on her stream, but Nia acts as though she's never done something like that, saying things like "girls who are lucky enough to have guys to do this with" and that she doesn't bring guys to her place because they only see her as a trophy. It's not necessarily inconsistent, but it does seem incongruent with how Nia is written during the scene at her place, although I suppose she could've just been lying/omitting certain details, but I don't think that would really fit either.

As a personal aside, I really hope that Bella is a virgin, she keeps teasing the MC about it, but with the way she's withdrawn from pretty much everyone other than her close female friends, it wouldn't make any sense for her to have hooked up with some rando, or even to have had a boyfriend.

I'm also holding out hope, perhaps futilely, that the Nami Bi-sexual variable is a gateway to some kind of multi-LI ending.

I'm going to touch on some of your other points that the virgin thing. Personally, people have their history their whole life, and I'm okay with that, I'm okay with a story having characters with different pasts. Too many games have the same characters with different hairstyles. Ocean's actually though carefully about who these people are.

I can almost guarantee Sonya is a virgin (given how her family treat her) if you are only interested in virgin paths.

So the points:

- this game will never have a harem path as the dev hates harem games. THe most there wil be is a throuple, and those will be challenging to achieve and keep because of jealousy. I think it's actually refreshing for a dev to creat lots of full characters, and even give sidecharacters in depth personalities.

- Seeing the number of LI's versus 'side' characters as an issue is a matter of perception. If a person has dialogue, they're important to the story. THe only true sidecharacters are the people milling around in the crowds. Regarding LI's I feel it's great that they're not obvious. It makes you play like every choice counts, and forces you to think about what the ramifications of those choices are. Some LI's paths might only be opened by how you treat other characters ie you can only date Mila if you've refused Vic, I'm guessing the way you treat Robin will play a big part in the way Sasha percieves you, same with Bella and Eva. All the characters interact and know what you've done with the others via gossip, so you have to play differently. Playing with a mod doesn't allow you to know what the stats do. I personally prefer not knowing what stats or switches are triggered, it increases the impact of choices and scenes.

- Season two will likely open all the LI paths to some extent, even if there won't necessarily be equal lewd content. We don't know any of that yet. Ocean is introducing characters as Nika meets them and starts interacting properly with them. Season 2 will have quite a few more events with these strangers that he's only known for a week. The barn/game event, the martial arts studio, the cabin trip, moving in with Mila/working on her Venus account, meeting more of the basketball team, the bar opening, the yoga classes, the Zara competitions - there are a lot of potential events that will have multiple characters for Nika to get to know. I don't know if Ocean will even fit all of these in season 2, along with the main plot threads. The main thing is that Nika currently has not been moving in all these character's social circles, he's just starting to get to know them as the events push him into their orbits.

- The continuity stuff is the last part of the rework that we'll get when Season 1 is released. Replay from the start once it is, as OCean will change all kinds of little things all over the place to fix the gaps that were in the beta, because it is a beta.

- the virgin stuff, as stated above, all kinds of characters for all kinds of players.

I guess the fun thing about a game is making the choices we feel are authentic to us. I'll probabaly replay this from the start with every new season, given how I can't decide who I want to pursue

 

[PaxHadrian17]

The Most interesting thing this is. Buy an Windows USB-Stick. Every fucking Windows User do that that themself. HDD or SSD is always a part ya should atleast 2-3 new drives at home for the possible failure and as Dev this thing is a Have Must.

I always have a really good laugh when Dev's post there problems.

I prefer what I see as a dev's honesty versus some dev's who give out the equivalence of 'the dog ate my homework' for the 5th time in a one-year span.

Real world and real-world problems.

Ocean experienced a hiccup... not a devastating loss from a fire.

I'm thankful that the loss was minor, and I believe that he can quickly recover from it.

Cheers!!