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wizardcock

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I am also like that. At first I didn't really like the new Ayua model (too mature), but after seeing her many times, I started to like her. :sneaky:

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this hairstyle is immediately associated with something Japanese. I don't like it when they do that stereotipic: asian woman - this Ayua`s haircut, black woman - afro plaits, an Egyptian woman - she'll have a kare with bangs, a Scandinavian woman - she'll have pigtails and so on.
 

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If the hairstyle is worn during sports, it is very suitable, but not suitable for casual activities.
Not only in the gym, but also in the bar where Ayua sits next to MC, she has a new hairstyle. I think she will wear this hairstyle everywhere from now on.


 

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this hairstyle is immediately associated with something Japanese. I don't like it when they do that stereotipic: asian woman - this Ayua`s haircut, black woman - afro plaits, an Egyptian woman - she'll have a kare with bangs, a Scandinavian woman - she'll have pigtails and so on.
I don't think that's what Ocean meant. The tied hair style is suitable for gym activities. and there are only a few tied hairstyles (beautiful hairstyles of course) that match the length of Ayua's hair.
 
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It is impossible for me to look at Ayua's rework without feeling a bit of an uncanny valley, as if she were an advanced robot with skin on top or an alien camouflaged as a sexy human, perhaps this will lead to new theories that Ayua is the daughter of a WIAB character with an alien
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It is impossible for me to look at Ayua's rework without feeling a bit of an uncanny valley, as if she were an advanced robot with skin on top or an alien camouflaged as a sexy human, perhaps this will lead to new theories that Ayua is the daughter of a WIAB character with an alien
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I can't get used to it. she looks weird almost like a doll. I remember when ocean said a few months ago that his goal was to achieve realism but when I see new dev log it is very far from that. although someone notices mc in that bar scene. he looks like a sweaty gypsy :LOL:
 

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I get the play, it makes sense. But has he mentioned how he plans to distribute Season 2? Because GOG, Epic, Steam etc won't be an option. Patreon keeps cracking down on adult content and I have a feeling SS will soon follow. I reckon in a couple of years, only the most sanitized adult content will be allowed on those platforms. Sooner or later devs will need to find an alternative that isn't pushed around by payment processors like PayPal.
Wind up having to make a vanilla soy latte version of every VN and then have some kinda patch you can only get through their discord or something.

Sucks though, thought we were going to get another AVN from Ocean after seeing WiAB pre-rework but instead we're getting a super neutered VN to appease steam sales. Don't mind slowburn stories, but after reading the steam nonsense it's feeling more and more like it'll never actually ya know...burn.
 
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I've been refreshing SG on Steam every single day for a couple of weeks or so now, leaving its tab there...
Eventually one of these refreshes that buy button is gonna pop up... :HideThePain:
Dont know... i dont care for the steam release... oh well not entirely true, the reason for me to care is that the Patreon release will be AFTER Steam Release is done. But other than that... The Steam Version is not the exact same as the Patreon Version, that much is clear already... even if Ocean said the changes are nothing major, i dont care... even if it would only be one single render, the Steam version is out for me. I dont think we have to wait long for the Patreon release, MAYBE a week tops after Steam. Oh and the steam version will cost more as the patreon version too... If Ocean isnt adjusting the cost at Patreon, 5 bucks will be enough. Cant believe that you will get it on Steam for 5...

Oh and of course... future updates will not be on steam until the season is complete... yeah iam not waiting for that :D
 

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I wonder if it's some steam policy cause I think some other devs have also not put a game on patreon until after the steam release.
Come on... its obvious why?

I mean... sue him, but Ocean wants some money out of this to work on that game. At least to get by...

So... what will happen if Patreon Version is out before Steam Version? Right... its immediately leaked here, and besides, its cheaper on Patreon too as it will be on Steam. As for now... 5 bucks is enough for the chapter 5 Release on patreon, that will NOT be the price for the whole Season 1 on Steam. (dont know how much, but my guess, around 15-19$ like many other AVNs in that category too)

It would be kinda self-sabotage to release the full Chapter 5 now on Patreon if he wants the Steam Release to be a success.

Well it might be a shock to some... but Ocean isnt creating the game just to amuse everybody for nothing, he wants to make a living out of it. And he is in a position were this MIGHT work out. So he will try his best to make the best out of it, and that is... Steam Release first. Btw... thats a common thing, most DEVs did that of course when a Steam release was in the pipeline... Its just common sense. Even if we dont like it cause we COULD play already.
 
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Massagecook01

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I am also like that. At first I didn't really like the new Ayua model (too mature), but after seeing her many times, I started to like her. :sneaky:

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she looks like a 40 year old not a 20 year old is her new look suppose to make her look younger or older because if it's suppose to make her look better and younger it's a failure in my opinion and many others. :unsure:
 

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Come on... its obvious why?

I mean... sue him, but Ocean wants some money out of this to work on that game. At least to get by...

So... what will happen if Patreon Version is out before Steam Version? Right... its immediately leaked here, and besides, its cheaper on Patreon too as it will be on Steam. As for now... 5 bucks is enough for the chapter 5 Release on patreon, that will NOT be the price for the whole Season 1 on Steam. (dont know how much, but my guess, around 15-19$ like many other AVNs in that category too)

It would be kinda self-sabotage to release the full Chapter 5 now on Patreon if he wants the Steam Release to be a success.

Well it might be a shock to some... but Ocean isnt creating the game just to amuse everybody for nothing, he wants to make a living out of it. And he is in a position were this MIGHT work out. So he will try his best to make the best out of it, and that is... Steam Release first. Btw... thats a common thing, most DEVs did that of course when a Steam release was in the pipeline... Its just common sense. Even if we dont like it cause we COULD play already.
well yeah when it comes to Ocean but I was speaking in general terms cause ive seen games that have their updates on steam after pateron but those werent a full release of a season of a game or whatever. That's why it has me curious cause if there is some policy cause I can think of game updates being on pateron before steam but not a single game that did a full season release. Tho I guess you can say those devs that release full seasons care about money more and yeah then it makes more sense. I just would think the same would apply to those devs that update their games on steam update to update instead of season , which is why I wonder if there is a policy or not.
 

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well yeah when it comes to Ocean but I was speaking in general terms cause ive seen games that have their updates on steam after pateron but those werent a full release of a season of a game or whatever. That's why it has me curious cause if there is some policy cause I can think of game updates being on pateron before steam but not a single game that did a full season release. Tho I guess you can say those devs that release full seasons care about money more and yeah then it makes more sense. I just would think the same would apply to those devs that update their games on steam update to update instead of season , which is why I wonder if there is a policy or not.
Its not really common to release a game in "seasons" though... those games are REALLY rare around here (i play alot around here and played only... hm 4 games with different seasons if iam right). Most games go from update to update until its finished (or abandoned), for those there is not really a reason why they should release an update on steam before patreon, cause they are only updates anyway (and mostly kinda short ones too with less than 1 hour playtime), those who baught it on steam will update it on steam, thats it.

Releasing something in seasons is more like... a new game each season. So its a different thing and it makes way more sense to wait with a patreon release until some days passed after steam/epic/gog release to make the most of it.

Ah and Summers Gone will be a special case too... Season 1 has no sex in it, so... getting a pegi 16 rating is possible... that will be a little different for season 2, and same goes for music license and such, the license is only for Season 1. So yeah... Season 2 will be kind of a "new game" and will get a seprate release on steam.

But its not policy... its DEVs decision.

The policy that steam maybe want an exclusive deal and such... well... thats only for "bigger" fish, and they will make a better deal for the DEV for that... Like if you release it only on steam, your cut of the profit will be bigger. But yeah... thats nothing for small DEVs like Ocean... and he cant afford to lose the patreon and subscribestar support...
 
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Its not really common to release a game in "seasons" though...
I would disagree with that statement when it comes to dual Steam/Patreon-SS AVNs.

The common trend now is that a bunch of sequential Chapters get released first on Patreon-SS and then bundled into a Season for Steam release. I expect that the Chapters of SG Season 2 will be published on Patreon-SS first. Once five or so Chapters are complete, they'll be bundled into Season 2 and that will be released on Steam first.

What Ocean is doing is no different to many other AVN devs, and I can name several Steam AVNs (also originally popular here as Patreon/SS releases) that work exactly the same way.
 
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