VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[NebulousShooter]

 

[BobTheDuck]

The camping trip in WIAB should be interesting. If they follow the rework Miru leaves at one point to meet a Asian female friend. Just a theory in the original they never said her name just showed her, I think that friend is Nojiko. Which would explain why a person who has no money or influence has so many connections to high people.

I do hope we'll find Noji in WiaB to understand her connection - in SG we only know she worked with a 'Scarlet' at the hospital. This suggests that she's someone different to the member of Miru's old WiaB ninja clan who showed up - Scarlet was working at the hospital in WiaB, seemingly sourcing stuff on the side for Joe perhaps? So if Noji worked for Scarlet back then, Noji probably isn't squeaky clean.

Also, Nika mentions:

d "You're miserable. After your old boss left, your situation there took a turn for the worse."
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m "I'm not going to deny that my situation has changed since Scarlet retired."

So that implies Nika knew of Scarlet, if not actually knowing Scarlet - more fuel that Noji is not keeping Nika away from the Zane's but keeping Nika stable/safe from himself.

 

[BobTheDuck]

All not in the game anymore.

He got panic attacks because he was forcing social interactions with multiple people at once, especially strangers. Is there any instance where it happens with Bella? Because if not, all you just said is your head canon, because there are zero hints his attacks are related to intimacy with the people he loves, sex, or causing his dick problems.
Dem pierced nipples too OP.

His dick problems are mentioned indirectly. He doesn't leave any messes around. Coupled with the removed scenes, which are no real loss, we do have a picture of someone who has a mental block regarding sex and intimacy, and is self aware of that block. Someone who has a block probably can't even think to pleasure someone else - the reason they can't get it up is because their mind is shunning that level of intimacy, not because they are just having a physical issue. Nika's brain is being blueballed by his past also.

d "I don't think you know how much my depression affects me."
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m "You need to be a little more specific [name]... You don't really talk to me... I can only assume, and if I assume the wrong thing... It's going to be weird."
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pause
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d "About sex."
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m "Oh."
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m "Oh I... Umm... I figured as much."
m "You never left any traces... I suspected it."
m "Not like- others in the house..."

And the pierced nipples aren't gone, just the inappropriate (but wonderfully) tranparent blouse is gone. Maybe Ocean will leave a tease of the outline? Probably not

 

[yossa999]

All not in the game anymore.

Just the jacuzzi scene, now he stops Nami before she starts grinding his cock. But he admits he'll probably get a boner if she continues. He's just afraid to find out.

n "So... there was life in it?!"
d "Yes, if you had kept going, maybe he would have showed a reaction."
n "Then why did you stop it prematurely?"
n "Now we are only at 'maybe' instead of 'proven'!"
n "You fucking idiot!"
d "Nami... Trust me when I say... You might be capable of it... but it certainly won't work if you force it."

[...] there are zero hints his attacks are related to intimacy with the people he loves, sex, or causing his dick problems.

On Nami's route when they returned from Vic. if the MC admits that he has feelings for her and kisses her:

"Nami starts shaking as you disconnect the kiss."
"You leave her room."
n "W-what was in that roll?"
d "(Calm down... Calm down...)"
"You're trying to fight off the incoming panic attack."
d "I need to get out."

So, he has panic attacks related to intimacy with the people he loves. This is not my head canon, this is the author's character.

He got panic attacks because he was forcing social interactions with multiple people at once, especially strangers. Is there any instance where it happens with Bella? Because if not, all you just said is your head canon[...]

I agree that Bella is a special case and he feels much more comfortable with her than with the others. At least I don't remember him panicking while with her. But nevertheless, his panic attacks still occur and he is afraid that he might screw up in front of Bella because of this. He talks about this directly in Chapter 3.

"You and Nami stare into the distance."
d "Even if I.. wanted to spend the night with her.. I don't know if I could get him up."
n "Your wormy?"
d "Mhm."
n "Can't he get hard at all?"
d "He can.. if I think about certain things.."
n "Like what?"
d "Dead children."
n "..Like what?"
d "Past days with Summer... When I imagine how she would look now... How her voice would sound... Her touch would feel."
d "This sassy smile she always had.."
d "Then it... might work."
n "This is a real problem."
n "What about Viagra?"
d "No! What the fuck?!"
n "Then just think about Summer... if it comes to it."
d "No, you moron!"
d "*sigh*."
d "I need to get this out of my head.. I want to be.. normal again.."

He is scaried to go further with her because he understands that not everything is okay with him yet and a breakdown could happen at any moment. He's just afraid.
And why did you decide that Bella would be satisfied with the oral sex or petting? Performed by a virgin? Is this your head canon?

 

[yossa999]

I for one found the jacuzzi scene strange... it came out of the blue and really didnt fit the overall pace.

I guess it's not that strange. Nami was already slightly warmed up by Vanessa and decided to continue what she started at the lake.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I guess it's not that strange. Nami was already slightly warmed up by Vanessa and decided to continue what she started at the lake.

I actually think that the effect of Nami's path with the changed lake scene and the removed jacuzzi scene will actually make her a stronger more believable character. Up until what we've just found out, she is overtly sexual in her flirting towards Nika. I get that she is an awkward virgin talking tough to try and hide her insecurity, I get that the wiggly is her not being comfortable with her body now she's a weird 7, I get all of that. But the way she reacts to the kiss and to actual intimacyfeels far too reversed from that, especially if you take her for a walk after the movies at Vics.

Now she'll be talking but not pushing the boundaries too hard, she'll be all talk and no action, so Nika's move to initiate will actually have the affectof starting something, like he's stepping out on a limb. Prior to this change, it was the worst kept secret that Nami was into him, so her reaction in Ch5 felt out of character to me, I'd imagine her beinghappy about it and fearful, but this I think will make her reaction feel like he's crossed a boundary with her, rather than she's broken the boundaries already.

 

[yossa999]

I actually think that the effect of Nami's path with the changed lake scene and the removed jacuzzi scene will actually make her a stronger more believable character. Up until what we've just found out, she is overtly sexual in her flirting towards Nika. I get that she is an awkward virgin talking tough to try and hide her insecurity, I get that the wiggly is her not being comfortable with her body now she's a weird 7, I get all of that. But the way she reacts to the kiss and to actual intimacyfeels far too reversed from that, especially if you take her for a walk after the movies at Vics.

Now she'll be talking but not pushing the boundaries too hard, she'll be all talk and no action, so Nika's move to initiate will actually have the affectof starting something, like he's stepping out on a limb. Prior to this change, it was the worst kept secret that Nami was into him, so her reaction in Ch5 felt out of character to me, I'd imagine her beinghappy about it and fearful, but this I think will make her reaction feel like he's crossed a boundary with her, rather than she's broken the boundaries already.

While there is no explanation for their dialogue about what happened between them in the past, we can assume anything. Perhaps something in the past justifies her behavior.

I wonder if Ocean changed the morning scene in Nami's room when MC stays home instead of robbing Holgerson with Bella. Because in the morning she's almost as daring as she was in the deleted jacuzzi scene.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I guess it's not that strange. Nami was already slightly warmed up by Vanessa and decided to continue what she started at the lake.

To me the Jacuzzi was perfect. You got to learn about vanessa how she was very perceptive. Listen to the things she said to Nami about Niko which you can tell she has noticed the attachment to them is more. You learn alot about the family and the mother(believe the mother is katerina). You get ammo on Mario(butt plug).

 

[yossa999]

To me the Jacuzzi was perfect. You got to learn about vanessa how she was very perceptive. Listen to the things she said to Nami about Niko which you can tell she has noticed the attachment to them is more. You learn alot about the family and the mother(believe the mother is katerina). You get ammo on Mario(butt plug).

Before the remake, MC already knew about the Mario's little toys if MC joined Bella during the night heist. But the fact that Vanessa forced Mario to wear it is of course a juicy detail.

And yeah, Vanessa seems happy if the MC lets Nami sit on his lap. I wouldn't be surprised if she has a hidden camera somewhere nearby

 

[Doomyk]

I actually think that the effect of Nami's path with the changed lake scene and the removed jacuzzi scene will actually make her a stronger more believable character. Up until what we've just found out, she is overtly sexual in her flirting towards Nika. I get that she is an awkward virgin talking tough to try and hide her insecurity, I get that the wiggly is her not being comfortable with her body now she's a weird 7, I get all of that. But the way she reacts to the kiss and to actual intimacyfeels far too reversed from that, especially if you take her for a walk after the movies at Vics.

Now she'll be talking but not pushing the boundaries too hard, she'll be all talk and no action, so Nika's move to initiate will actually have the affectof starting something, like he's stepping out on a limb. Prior to this change, it was the worst kept secret that Nami was into him, so her reaction in Ch5 felt out of character to me, I'd imagine her beinghappy about it and fearful, but this I think will make her reaction feel like he's crossed a boundary with her, rather than she's broken the boundaries already.

To be honest, I didn’t like Nika himself in the scene on the lake. It looked more like he was putting pressure on Nami using a ghosting card (which is what Nami fears most).
PS: It’s interesting how communication with Nami will change depending on the choice. We already have at least 4 different paths. There are no feelings for Nami, there are feelings but no kiss, kiss and reassure and kiss but no reassure.

 

[BobTheDuck]

To me the Jacuzzi was perfect. You got to learn about vanessa how she was very perceptive. Listen to the things she said to Nami about Niko which you can tell she has noticed the attachment to them is more. You learn alot about the family and the mother(believe the mother is katerina). You get ammo on Mario(butt plug).

I thought that about Kat as well, the competitve nature of the mom seems very in line with Kat. But I'm keeping my mind open that Ocean will throw in a few unknown characters and leave some of the WiaB cast to fade aways most likely. But Kat would explain a few things.

Before the remake, MC already knew about the Mario's little toys if MC joined Bella during the night heist. But the fact that Vanessa forced Mario to wear it is of course a juicy detail.

And yeah, Vanessa seems happy if the MC lets Nami sit on his lap. I wouldn't be surprised if she has a hidden camera somewhere nearby

More ideas that Vanessa is evil, and looking to leverage everyone with some form of embarrassing secret? ...I totally thought that was her goal, to see how much she could get them to confess, just for her own insurance policies. A camera makes a great idea, pity she didn't catch them doing an ass job...

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

I agree that Bella is a special case and he feels much more comfortable with her than with the others. At least I don't remember him panicking while with her.

Um, he had. Almost. I didn't played her route, but I definitely saw renders where he was hugging Bella and almost had a panic attack because of it.

I actually think that the effect of Nami's path with the changed lake scene and the removed jacuzzi scene will actually make her a stronger more believable character.

I disagree. My favorite thing about her path is that she used Nika's condition to her advantage and pushed him into a relationship with her. She basically acted like a naive and stupid child who didn't realize what her actions could lead to. The Jacuzzi scene is the exact moment where the things get really serious. After that she got scared, acted more insecure and in the end tried to undo everything back. At least that's the impression I got from her path.

 

[gyshia915]

The camping trip in WIAB should be interesting. If they follow the rework Miru leaves at one point to meet a Asian female friend. Just a theory in the original they never said her name just showed her, I think that friend is Nojiko. Which would explain why a person who has no money or influence has so many connections to high people.

That girl wasn't Miru's friend, but her sister. Both Miru's mother and sister arrived to Wollust looking for her. And this is not a patch thing, it's like that in the unpatched script too.

A candidate for being that character in the new WIAB could be Riri.

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[Adhdclassic]

Am I the only one who thinks Robin is up to something. She seems to be placed in Nikos place alot, Even though it is quick events but she keeps popping up. Especially during the gym class when she talks to him outside. What is the chances the newspaper people were waiting for them and knew where they were going to be. Another question is who is the girl with the red hair and grey streak she looks like Sasha. You see her in the class during the fight, one of the paths when Nika is having a panic attack and he goes in the class she comes in and ask if he needs a nurse, when he goes to the cafeteria she sits down at his table with Robin and another girl.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Um, he had. Almost. I didn't played her route, but I definitely saw renders where he was hugging Bella and almost had a panic attack because of it.

I disagree. My favorite thing about her path is that she used Nika's condition to her advantage and pushed him into a relationship with her. She basically acted like a naive and stupid child who didn't realize what her actions could lead to. The Jacuzzi scene is the exact moment where the things get really serious. After that she got scared, acted more insecure and in the end tried to undo everything back. At least that's the impression I got from her path.

Well, it's a personal interpretation thing, I can certainly see it that way, except it wasn't after the jacuzzi scene - after the jacuzzi scene there was the movie night where Nami kept pushing for intimacy, and dropped way too many hints, risking Mila and Vic knowing. It was only if you kissed her before Bella's return that Nami freaks out.

Personally I find the Nami that is overtly pushing Nika towards intimacy annoying, I am much more likely to find confused Nami a more interesting character, but I can also see how the changes affect certain aspects. There's no one way to interpret her actions. Selfishly I'm glad it's gone this way.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I thought that about Kat as well, the competitve nature of the mom seems very in line with Kat. But I'm keeping my mind open that Ocean will throw in a few unknown characters and leave some of the WiaB cast to fade aways most likely. But Kat would explain a few things.



More ideas that Vanessa is evil, and looking to leverage everyone with some form of embarrassing secret? ...I totally thought that was her goal, to see how much she could get them to confess, just for her own insurance policies. A camera makes a great idea, pity she didn't catch them doing an ass job...

i think she worries about Nika cause she can't figure him out. He is a anomaly to her.

 

[Dessolos]

Am I the only one who thinks Robin is up to something. She seems to be placed in Nikos place alot, Even though it is quick events but she keeps popping up. Especially during the gym class when she talks to him outside. What is the chances the newspaper people were waiting for them and knew where they were going to be. Another question is who is the girl with the red hair and grey streak she looks like Sasha. You see her in the class during the fight, one of the paths when Nika is having a panic attack and he goes in the class she comes in and ask if he needs a nurse, when he goes to the cafeteria she sits down at his table with Robin and another girl.

not gonna lie never put much thought about Robin. Ever since the prank I refuse to forgive Robin so never thought about her, she just crossed a line for me that is unforgiveable , even if it was mostly a harmless prank.

 

[mostwanted8]

not gonna lie never put much thought about Robin. Ever since the prank I refuse to forgive Robin so never thought about her, she just crossed a line for me that is unforgiveable , even if it was mostly a harmless prank.

Robin's whole thing is "bystander accomplice" until now, she might be nice but she seriously needs to step up her game in the personality department. I almost didn't recognize her when she turned up at the book meeting cause I had forgetten about her existance

Like girl, stand out!

 

[Adhdclassic]

Robin's whole thing is "bystander accomplice" until now, she might be nice but she seriously needs to step up her game in the personality department. I almost didn't recognize her when she turned up at the book meeting cause I had forgetten about her existance
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Like girl, stand out!

Nah its that fucking hair she has switched between 3 styles so you forget you saw her in another scene. one minute its straight,next its looks like that(pic) then its super curly. Pic a style!!!

 

[Don Sucio]

Do i want to get hot and heavy with Nami, Bella, Vic, Mila and some others? Of course. But the intention of the game was always clear... the first picture after starting the game was never a joke. And it would be suprising to see actual sex in season 2 (and like the game goes it would be weird too). And i really hope that Ocean will not make something like a "wet-dream" or "flashback" as a first sex scene in the game just please the complainers... many games do that, and it always ruins a lot.

Yeah, Ocean said that season two will have what we all are waiting and that the wait will be worth it, for me is clear what he was saying and what we can expect in season two, but it would be strange have actual sex. Of course the therapy will help Nika a lot but sex it´s too much for a depress boy. I think some blowjobs or sexual content in general (handjobs, eat some pussy...) it´s guaranteed but actual sex i doubt it, and all of this will happen in the final chapters not in the begining i foresee.