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All of them keep using these words, maybe there’s a meaning behind it as it connects all of them to their roots in one way or another.

And they all have a level of confidence that they don’t give a shit when anyone hears them talk like a toddler.

This theory became even more reasonable when Emilio stated in wiab that he has no clue what „Bibi“ means and thought it’s strange that Leia calls new dancers like that.
Absolutely agree!
Nika: "Little bibi started stuttering, ooohhh."
Bella: "What's a bibi?"
Nika: "It's a word for something baby like."
Bella: "You-"
Bella has no idea what "bibi" means either. Apparently this is part of their childhood vocabulary with Nami and/or Summer and probably comes from the WiAB characters.
 

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I have a bit of a completionist mentality and will play paths of characters I have no real interest in compared to the other options but I either like them enough to play , or something about them makes me want to play their path even if I hate them.
Well, for me, it's usually the stupid Achievements or some other shit.

They will never make it too simple as to have you play a game once to unlock every image. You are forced to play multiple times if you want every image in the Gallery unlocked. Luckily, I don't care much about the Gallery.

Achievements though... they usually want you to do a lot of things. Bad/Good stuff, Be with This/That person, Get This/That Person's Ending etc.
 

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Ah, no worries then. I had no idea and wouldn't have made fun if I did (I would have understood things much easier) Sorry about that. If you hate them with a passion, overcome them. Kinda like, having angry sex. Hate-fuck those words till you love them again.

I can only imagine... tight tights help the tighs tell no lies but tighter tights keep dem butt cheeks super tight.... idk :rolleyes:

Damn, you liked her before, but the changes changed your feelings for her? crazy. I thought you probably liked her for her, did more than just her looks change? but like you said, no biggy. You will go after who you want and can enjoy the company of the other ladies for friendship.
Lmao again

And nah never liked her thiiis much and even disliked her somewhat when she came clear about her backstory with Bella and still „hating“ her despite knowing how badly Bella got molested back than and how she betrayed her just because Bella doesn’t give a fuck about her anymore

But her former looks still had elevated her enough for me to check out her path at least and I don’t feel that desire anymore now.
 

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Absolutely agree!

Bella has no idea what "bibi" means either. Apparently this is part of their childhood vocabulary with Nami and/or Summer and probably comes from the WiAB characters.
I actually have a german friend who's nickname is Bibi, so it's not weird to me.

I do think there is the tendency of Miru to make the bibi words, but I think she's mirroring Willi, and overcompensating (wormy, wombi, everything with the eeeeeee sounds, better plock my ears from more banshee vowels). The fact that Leia includes all of the club girls in the lingo changes things. Also, Katie isn't just bibi, but fish as well.

It could easily be Nika, Nami or Summer's mum could be one of Leia's girls, which would mean interesting things for Emilio once he starts digging into the Cyrus name.
 

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It could easily be Nika, Nami or Summer's mum could be one of Leia's girls, which would mean interesting things for Emilio once he starts digging into the Cyrus name.
Yeah Leia could be easily Nika and Nami‘s mom.

whoopps I somehow did misread your statement!:devilish::poop: Silly me!
 
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I mean the writing could be better (which is the case in 99% of avns) in comparison to the average of all avns it’s unbelievably amazingly godlike.

I’m comparison to the AVNs with very good writing (that’s fucking rare) it’s at least decent to good imo.

The thing is Ocean involved all these words like wormy/poundy/bibi/whatevi and dumb fucks see that and cry BAD WRITING while they are the last people qualified to rate that.

My theory is that these words have a deeper meaning and connection.

Its noticeable that these words are only used by very specific characters.

William/Leia/Kaite Zane who supposedly created these words at little kids, William and Leia created Bibi (Baby) as nickname for Katie.

It’s reasonable to assume that the other words originated in a similar way imo.

The only other characters using them are:

- Miru (copied the „slang“ due to living 5 years with Willy)

- Nika & Nami

- Summer

My assumption is that either Nika and Nami (probably) or Summer had a lot of contact with the Zane’s as little kids and copied their kiddy words.

Afterwards Summer copied the slang from Nika&Nami or the other way around.

All of them keep using these words, maybe there’s a meaning behind it as it connects all of them to their roots in one way or another.

And they all have a level of confidence that they don’t give a shit when anyone hears them talk like a toddler.

This theory became even more reasonable when Emilio stated in wiab that he has no clue what „Bibi“ means and thought it’s strange that Leia calls new dancers like that.

This indicated strongly that all these „kiddy-words“ aren’t canon/known in oceans universe and im convinced there is a reason why some specific characters know/use them.


Uhh I went kinda off rails lmao and maybe it’s all bullshit but we will see
I agree. Some of the phrases used are likely a specific family thing in the Wollust universe. In the case of the MC/Nami in SG - exactly what you say - did they introduce the term "bibi" to Summer or did Summer introduce the term to them?

Besides. the term "bibi" is only used a couple of times outside of Chs 1 and 2.

Multiple times in the past, Ocean has said he draws inspiration from people and things from his own life. Without reproducing the quote, Ocean has stated that "bibi" is a term he and his sister once used, although not they didn't use it often.

Overall, I think the writing and dialogues are generally good. There are always things we can quibble about, but I can't think of much that can't be fixed with a few lines of rewritten dialogue.

I mentioned things "lost in translation." This is only natural because of Ocean's nationality. However, those pesky things still in the game can be corrected easily.

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No doubt there are other examples in SG. But the fact remains, they can be corrected easily.
 
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I actually have a german friend who's nickname is Bibi, so it's not weird to me.

I do think there is the tendency of Miru to make the bibi words, but I think she's mirroring Willi, and overcompensating (wormy, wombi, everything with the eeeeeee sounds, better plock my ears from more banshee vowels). The fact that Leia includes all of the club girls in the lingo changes things. Also, Katie isn't just bibi, but fish as well.

It could easily be Nika, Nami or Summer's mum could be one of Leia's girls, which would mean interesting things for Emilio once he starts digging into the Cyrus name.
(y) (y) (y) Damn limit.
Yeah, and Nami is an annoying red fish too. And I don't remember any other characters besides Cyrus, Zane or close to them using this slang.
 

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I look at the old Mila, and man, she's so cool, young and fresh. Why he changed her to look like a doll with enormous boobs :(
Ocean obviously likes busty, curvy women more. Ever think about it like that ??:WeSmart:Nothing about her new look makes her less "young and fresh" or anything bad. If anything, it makes her even sweeter. A throuple ending with her and Vic or a 4some ending with her, Vic and Maya is #lifegoals, and grown-ass young women with pigtails ain't exactly something I'd consider 'beautiful'... it's an immature, bratty girl look at best, which is why I'm one of the peeps who like what her new character looks like, body and personality.

If only Ocean made the MC stop acting like such an over-the-top entitled, introverted, butthurt problem child pissing ppl off left and right bcz of his own issues and insecurities. It's why the emo fucker needs to get laid asap, cuz a good pussy is the answer to most dudes' problems. This is a scientific fact.:sneaky:

I'm really confused on how people think SG is a porn game when no one has ever claimed it to be a porn game. Ocean has repeatedly clarified on every official page that it is a "story focused game with adult elements", to the point where the game itself starts with a warning image.
I mean, we already know the MC is a sort of caricature of a butthurt emo idiot with serious mental issues who's soo 'cool' he can't even get an erection when a drop-dead gorgeous blonde like Bella teases and dry humps him lol. This should pretty much solidify the fact that the game's main focus aren't its sex scenes, but as much as I respect Ocean's amazing work and art and don't like admitting this, the story isn't that much of a plus either, especially since the MC's braindead retard attitude doesn't make sense and nothing significant in regards to what happened to Summer was even mentioned in this new version.

I get that some games may not have a lot of good sex scenes, cuz the story makes up for it, but in our case, I find it ridiculous that both the story and the sex scenes aren't anything worth praising, and the slow release schedule only adds to minuses, so yeah, Ocean needs to deliver more substantial updates and focus more on the story, give us more details about the characters, more build up, character development and shit. The MC needs to put in the hard work to get pussy like men do it IRL, cuz having all these attractive women throw themselves at him isn't something I'd consider even remotely believable or decently written.

I don't understand why it has become a habit that when someone doesn't like something they automatically try to throw the whole game in the trash and convince everyone around them that they are right. who cares? you don't like it and i do
I wholeheartedly agree.(y) There's constructive criticism and then there's plain nonsense. If somebody doesn't like a game, they're welcome to share their opinions on why they didn't like said game, where the devs made a mistake and what they think could've been done better, but repeating the same things over and over again instead of moving on to other titles is simply ridiculous.

If I see a game I consider promising and find certain things that don't make sense storywise or that I don't like, especially when other users agree with me on that, I comment hoping the dev will at least consider changing something, but if they don't, I'll just consider most of their fans and patrons are ok with everything, respect the dev's decision and simply move on to other games instead of repeating the same things most ppl probably don't care about and don't consider that bad for at least 100+ times. It's the mature, polite and reasonable thing to do, IMHO.
 

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I actually have a german friend who's nickname is Bibi, so it's not weird to me.

I do think there is the tendency of Miru to make the bibi words, but I think she's mirroring Willi, and overcompensating (wormy, wombi, everything with the eeeeeee sounds, better plock my ears from more banshee vowels). The fact that Leia includes all of the club girls in the lingo changes things. Also, Katie isn't just bibi, but fish as well.

It could easily be Nika, Nami or Summer's mum could be one of Leia's girls, which would mean interesting things for Emilio once he starts digging into the Cyrus name.
Exactly.

To me, it will be interesting to find out why the MC and Nami in SG use the terms "Bibi" AND "Wormy."

"Bibi" is clearly a Zane family thing in WIAB that William passed on to Miru. However, "Wormy" (as slang for a penis) is only spoken between Miru and William in WIAB - never by anyone else.
 

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Ocean obviously likes busty, curvy women more. Ever think about it like that ??:WeSmart:Nothing about her new look makes her less "young and fresh" or anything bad. If anything, it makes her even sweeter. A throuple ending with her and Vic or a 4some ending with her, Vic and Maya is #lifegoals, and grown-ass young women with pigtails ain't exactly something I'd consider 'beautiful'... it's an immature, bratty girl look at best, which is why I'm one of the peeps who like what her new character looks like, body and personality.

If only Ocean made the MC stop acting like such an over-the-top entitled, introverted, butthurt problem child pissing ppl off left and right bcz of his own issues and insecurities. It's why the emo fucker needs to get laid asap, cuz a good pussy is the answer to most dudes' problems. This is a scientific fact.:sneaky:
That cycle of Mila's changes that I was given above answers my question, the Mila of chapter 4.5 is pretty balanced but still busty, curvy in good way, no problem. It was just too much in chapter 1 and Ocean admits it.

Regarding the main character. well, I think there's ALSO a thing - his penis doesn't work, so he doesn't want to get close to anyone and has convinced himself that he doesn't need to. Strange that he's not aware of antidepressants since he has also panic attacks, sertraline is a popular medication for depression with and anxiety.(what Sasha gave him)
 

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Yeah Leia could be easily Nika and Nami‘s mom.

whoopps I somehow did misread your statement!:devilish::poop: Silly me!
Oh, everyone got misdirected by the car accident and the (now deleted) shooting scene.

Marla gasps at seeing Nika in her college class and needs therapy from Amber because she IS Nika and Nami's long-lost mother! The tragic circumstances forcing her to abandon her children are yet to be revealed. Stay tuned... /s
 

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Oh, everyone got misdirected by the car accident and the (now deleted) shooting scene.

Marla gasps at seeing Nika in her college class and needs therapy from Amber because she IS Nika's mother! /s
lmao

the true/original intended emo-nika: „Mom! You left me! Like summer! :cry::cry:„ Booooom.
 
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Exactly.

To me, it will be interesting to find out why the MC and Nami in SG use the terms "Bibi" AND "Wormy."

"Bibi" is clearly a Zane family thing in WIAB that William passed on to Miru. However, "Wormy" (as slang for a penis) is only spoken between Miru and William in WIAB - never by anyone else.
Remember Nika talking about his uncle? What if that is his connection to the Zane's? Willi taught him basketball?
 

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i find curious you didnt mention the MC. could it be because he unrelatable or something else? what about summer? doesnt it bother you that summer is this looming thing to the MC but nothing has progressed when comes to her?
i guess im the opposite. i find him unrelatable therefore i dont find the story very good. great renders but that it
People who’ve lost something precious and lost hope can easily relate with Nika. That’s why the story is so compelling. We all want to see him bloom and enjoy life again after losing his love.
Summer is integral to the story precisely for that. Nika is at a better place now than he was at the start but his past life is still holding him down. He’s slowly overcoming that and accepting that it’s worth to give people a chance and he deserves a chance at life too.
I like the soundtrack because it portrays his internal struggle well. It’s upbeat and tries to stay positive while being melancholic at the same time.
 
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People who’ve lost something precious and lost hope can easily relate with Nika.

We all want to see him bloom and enjoy life again after losing his love.

He’s slowly overcoming that and accepting that it’s worth to give people a chance and he deserves a chance at life too.
That's probably the only thing I can say I relate to.

He can enjoy life in many different ways. The game forces you to enjoy it in certain ways (being glued/put to/with someone Nami/Bella etc)

I mean, you are playing it your way, are seeing things through your eyes and thinking about things in certain ways with your mind. He gives people a shot and ends up getting kicked in the balls and more.

I would stay away from everyone. Less drama, bullshit and pain that way. Many things to enjoy in life, it doesn't need to revolve around getting with someone, sex, making friends and all that other forced world shit. People are too brainwashed with how things should be and if you don't do those/certain things, you are the weirdo/loser/not normal.
 

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The MC needs to put in the hard work to get pussy like men do it IRL, cuz having all these attractive women throw themselves at him isn't something I'd consider even remotely believable or decently written.
Come on bro, I can understand and agree with your other points to some extent, but this is just not fair. :KEK:

First of all, the guy is clearly attractive. His jawline is so sharp it could cut glass. He has an athletic body, don't be fooled by the spaghetti arms at the beginning, we all know it takes you only two sessions at the gym in Wollust to tone up your muscles and abs. He has that dark, "mysterious" aura that young girls are so prone to fall for. And having an attractive appearance, he does not even try to get the attention of girls or somehow please them. What young 18-year-old girl wouldn't be at least curious about such a "unique" dude. :HideThePain:

Secondly, when the MC makes his first acquaintances with girls, pay attention, no one falls in love with him yet. Bella is forced to hang out with him because of a common project. Mila is simply a friendly person, plus she notices some hidden issues he struggles with and this builds up her interest. Only Vic simply liked him at first sight, and the accident they experienced together created a certain connection between them.

Thirdly, other girls have a "secondary" interest in him. Some of them are curious about this guy who hangs out with Bella all the time. Someone caught him in the bathroom with Robin or heard rumors about it. Someone knows about the fight with Sai. In short, everyone’s interest in MC does not arise out of nowhere just because he is the MC.

And finally, isn't it a common feature of all AVNs that most of the girls we see are LIs, side girls, or at least friends of the MC. Not many people can, like Ocean, populate a game with several dozen female characters and try to give each of them some attention, at least showing them in the background a few times. Of course, most of the girls will be potential LIs or lewdable and will be interested in the MC, since those who do not fall into these categories are not even visible to us :)
 
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