Niuul

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Didn't Ocean say after the curators? So once approved by Steam,there will still be time. If I was Ocean, Steam would have driven me to become Nika; I'd be having panic attack from every Steam notification at the point.
Yeah. Approved on Epic, working with GoG and still waiting on Steam. After approved on steam there would be a dev post about a release date.
 
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Old Man Al

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In many ways I agree with you. What seems strange to me most is that MC is a young guy suffering from impotence and doesn’t care about it. In his place, anyone would first go to the doctor to find out how to recover, especially since he is surrounded by so many beautiful girls. It seems that he is not interested in girls at all, he looks more like a gay man who is hiding behind the problem of impotence.
You should google impotence, Nika is not impotent. Either you didn't really pay attention or you lie to stir up shit again.
 

Raynare69

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There was an old game I suddenly remembered while thinking about this game with some similar points about healing from trauma.

Have you guys ever heard of or played the old Japanese visual novel, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? It released back in 2001 and I do believe the title was localized as Rumbling Hearts or something. It was popular enough to have an anime adaption back then, which for that time wasn't as common as it is these days for JP VNs.

Without going too much into spoilers or too deep into it, it was basically about the protagonist in a relationship with a girl who gets into an accident and goes into a coma. He blames himself because, if I remember correctly, she got hit by a car or something while on a date with him.

She remains in that state for so very long that and the protagonist is left struggling to get through life and with depression, barely eats and his place is a complete mess. However, there is another girl who is his friend and does her very best to help him heal and get through it, takes care of him with everything she can, including feeding him often and cleaning up his place for him and being there for him emotionally.

Eventually, she helps him recover and get back to a normal life and he starts a relationship with her. And everything was going smoothly and well, until the girl in the coma suddenly regains consciousness and the protagonist is torn between the two girls:


The girl who helped him recover and heal, and did so much for him and spent so much of her own time devoting herself to help him, or the girl who wakes up confused in an older body many, many years later who he feels responsible for.



I sometimes wonder if Ocean is going to pull a cheap trick out of a hat and bring Summer back in some form in a later season, and if we're going to have our protagonist Nika in a similar situation. Torn between a girl he had loved (and maybe felt responsible for?) and the one who helped him on his journey to heal (whoever you chose as your main love interest).

Personally I hope Ocean keeps Summer out of this and that she truly is gone, though.
 
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AlexFXR

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You should google impotence, Nika is not impotent. Either you didn't really pay attention or you lie to stir up shit again.
I naively believed that you would now tell us your magnificent theory. But instead you just shit in the comments........It's disappointing.
 

Dessolos

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What you're telling me is that the protagonist is actually Rudeus....
LOL thanks for reminding about that horrible second season but holy shit you are so right both him and the Summer's Gone MC had ED cause of mental issues.
 
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Doomyk

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There was an old game I suddenly remembered while thinking about this game with some similar points about healing from trauma.

Have you guys ever heard of or played the old Japanese visual novel, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? It released back in 2001 and I do believe the title was localized as Rumbling Hearts or something. It was popular enough to have an anime adaption back then, which for that time wasn't as common as it is these days for JP VNs.

Without going too much into spoilers or too deep into it, it was basically about the protagonist in a relationship with a girl who gets into an accident and goes into a coma. He blames himself because, if I remember correctly, she got hit by a car or something while on a date with him.

She remains in that state for so very long that and the protagonist is left struggling to get through life and with depression, barely eats and his place is a complete mess. However, there is another girl who is his friend and does her very best to help him heal and get through it, takes care of him with everything she can, including feeding him often and cleaning up his place for him and being there for him emotionally.

Eventually, she helps him recover and get back to a normal life and he starts a relationship with her. And everything was going smoothly and well, until the girl in the coma suddenly regains consciousness and the protagonist is torn between the two girls:


The girl who helped him recover and heal, and did so much for him and spent so much of her own time devoting herself to help him, or the girl who wakes up confused in an older body many, many years later who he feels responsible for.



I sometimes wonder if Ocean is going to pull a cheap trick out of a hat and bring Summer back in some form in a later season, and if we're going to have our protagonist Nika in a similar situation. Torn between a girl he had loved (and maybe felt responsible for?) and the one who helped him on his journey to heal (whoever you chose as your main love interest).

Personally I hope Ocean keeps Summer out of this and that she truly is gone, though.
An interesting theory, it may well be. Especially considering that Bella's path, there are hints that their story is not much different and as we learn in chapter 5, her sister is in a coma. However, I understand the dissatisfaction of many people with this character(Summer). If you look at the experience of other AVNs, the appearance of exes mainly brings a lot of negativity. They seem unnecessary, appear mostly out of nowhere and, as a rule, by this moment the public already has their favorites, so they are rare find interest. All this multiplies if it creates confusion with the feelings of the past MC (plot) vs the control of players who are not very interested in this, at least. Take for example AVN, which I recently played. Leap of faith (?). In some moment an ex appears there, with the storyline that she loves MC, but she has a husband who is very dangerous. In the eyes of the author, there is an interesting plot, the fight for the princess against some powerful guy, so many emotions, so much drama..... ..and this apparently did not find a response from the audience, since this character then disappears for a long time, and then there is some kind of ridiculous story about espionage and the fact that her marriage is a fiction. All this leaves some disappointment. Something similar could could very well happen to Leia's character from Wiab. There are hints that the love path storyline will be somewhat reminiscent of the ex from the mentioned Leap of faith. Then, I would say that Leia has a very high chance of falling from the throne of favorites.

However, everything said earlier contrasts sharply with SG. Here it is in name of Summer that the game is called, her story, her disappearance played a significant role on the MC, her shadow still weighs on him, her story runs parallel to the present and there is a considerable chance that her plot is woven into the main story of the future. And what will come of it, only time will tell.Summer has a difference from the simple *exes* other AVNs.
 
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Krytax123

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An interesting theory, it may well be. Especially considering that Bella's path, there are hints that their story is not much different and as we learn in chapter 5, her sister is in a coma. However, I understand the dissatisfaction of many people with this character(Summer). If you look at the experience of other AVNs, the appearance of exes mainly brings a lot of negativity. They seem unnecessary, appear mostly out of nowhere and, as a rule, by this moment the public already has their favorites, so they are rare find interest. All this multiplies if it creates confusion with the feelings of the past MC (plot) vs the control of players who are not very interested in this, at least. Take for example AVN, which I recently played. Leap of faith (?). In some moment an ex appears there, with the storyline that she loves MC, but she has a husband who is very dangerous. In the eyes of the author, there is an interesting plot, the fight for the princess against some powerful guy, so many emotions, so much drama..... ..and this apparently did not find a response from the audience, since this character then disappears for a long time, and then there is some kind of ridiculous story about espionage and the fact that her marriage is a fiction. All this leaves some disappointment. Something similar could could very well happen to Leia's character from Wiab. There are hints that the love path storyline will be somewhat reminiscent of the ex from the mentioned Leap of faith. Then, I would say that Leia has a very high chance of falling from the throne of favorites.

However, everything said earlier contrasts sharply with SG. Here it is in name of Summer that the game is called, her story, her disappearance played a significant role on the MC, her shadow still weighs on him, her story runs parallel to the present and there is a considerable chance that her plot is woven into the main story of the future. And what will come of it, only time will tell.Summer has a difference from the simple *exes* other AVNs.
I don’t think Summer is in a coma, i imagine if she would be, Bella‘s sister wouldn’t be in a coma too or Ocean at least wouldn’t have shown it to us.

would be weird if multiple of the „lost“ characters are hanging around in coma over years and years lol.

I disagree about everything else.

I think Ex‘es coming back are nice and (can) enrich the story no matter if you chose them or not. Love Zoey for example and Steph whom you mentioned is fine too even tho her background is utterly nonsensical.


Imo there is just a minority of players who gets weirdly insecure about the MCs feelings/emotions at times when it’s not about their chosen one.

I don’t get what you’re saying about Leia other than that she’s (somewhat as far as possible for a sister ..) is the MCs „Ex“ and she surely hasn’t a guy or even fake-guy around.

Don’t think she’s a fan favorite either, she gets a lot of hate and distrust for her (imo warranted) rude behavior towards William.

Usually ironically the same kind of players who dislike summer and want to „punish“ her if she comes back.
 

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once MC dick starts working again he better unload some bullets before he starts hunting. My man is going to be backed up able to fill a swimming pool.
 
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BobTheDuck

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There was an old game I suddenly remembered while thinking about this game with some similar points about healing from trauma.

Have you guys ever heard of or played the old Japanese visual novel, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? It released back in 2001 and I do believe the title was localized as Rumbling Hearts or something. It was popular enough to have an anime adaption back then, which for that time wasn't as common as it is these days for JP VNs.

Without going too much into spoilers or too deep into it, it was basically about the protagonist in a relationship with a girl who gets into an accident and goes into a coma. He blames himself because, if I remember correctly, she got hit by a car or something while on a date with him.

She remains in that state for so very long that and the protagonist is left struggling to get through life and with depression, barely eats and his place is a complete mess. However, there is another girl who is his friend and does her very best to help him heal and get through it, takes care of him with everything she can, including feeding him often and cleaning up his place for him and being there for him emotionally.

Eventually, she helps him recover and get back to a normal life and he starts a relationship with her. And everything was going smoothly and well, until the girl in the coma suddenly regains consciousness and the protagonist is torn between the two girls:


The girl who helped him recover and heal, and did so much for him and spent so much of her own time devoting herself to help him, or the girl who wakes up confused in an older body many, many years later who he feels responsible for.



I sometimes wonder if Ocean is going to pull a cheap trick out of a hat and bring Summer back in some form in a later season, and if we're going to have our protagonist Nika in a similar situation. Torn between a girl he had loved (and maybe felt responsible for?) and the one who helped him on his journey to heal (whoever you chose as your main love interest).

Personally I hope Ocean keeps Summer out of this and that she truly is gone, though.
I also hope Summer's only seen in flashbacks. It seems cheap to make a game about an absence then flip it to be about a dialectical style choice between past and current/ongoing future. I would hope Ocean wouldn't do that, simply because there's barely enough time in his current development to fit in all the paths and the overaching story before bringing in the reveal, and throwing all the paths into chaos, requiring further resolution.

If Summer must return, I'd love for her to stay out of Nika's life, witnessing that he's okay, maybe in 20 years Ocean starts a game called Summer, telling her story, so the narrative passes to new perspectives. Currently SUmmer's absence is effectively the antagonist, for the antagonist to be wiped out through a simple twist of fate negates most of Nika's character development. In this case, better have her reappear in CH6 before it gets to complicated to re-establish things.

But who knows? Exploring the question of whether remaining faithful to the past or faithful to the present is a genuine question for a lot of people, so it's still a very valid choice to bring her back. I'd just be more interested in seeing how Nika makes peace with his memories because we all have ghosts of friends past that haunt our minds unresolved. That kind of disconnect is a more interesting story to me anyway.

Ocean's already shown he'll tell the story he wants regardless of anyone's opinion, so if 'Summer's Gone' becomes 'Summer: There and back again' well, I'll have to deal with it just like all the Mila fans, and the OG MC fans. It is what it is either way.

Edit: Another thing. Summer's gone, and so are her parents. Otherwise Nika wouldn't need Emilio's services, or could ask Elsa. ie it's far bigger than just Summer being gone.
 
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