VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[mostwanted8]

While I generally play most AVNs under the name "John" (yep, it's not my real name, 'just an AVN avatar, I cannot play an AVN as myself without laughing)

 

[John972]

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'sorry, I lie a lot.

 

[Don Sucio]

The hell?

Specsavers is a callin' Don

I use contact lenses so... That explain a lot

I kinda think the reason a lot of people don't like Nika in SG or some MC's in AVNs in general is because they insert THEMSELVES into the MC ('probably change the character's name to their own as well), raising their expectations on the MC's characteristics/traits and behavior to match what they want/fantasize for themselves.

While I generally play most AVNs under the name "John" (yep, it's not my real name, 'just an AVN avatar, I cannot play an AVN as myself without laughing), I play SG under the name "Nika" because he's a character distinct from myself, and I enjoy the story more that way.

Could be, but i like to think i´m all the Mcs of the games i play, one of the things i love about SG is the inmersive world, this help me to be more inmersed in the game...

I like to think about this like a roleplay, devs give us a character and we can dive in it and act how we think the Mc would react (like i´m doing in SG) or try to change his personality and choose like you would do it if you were the Mc.

 

[John972]

Yeah - there's a couple of angles to that, it's a tricky one that I guess we'll find out more about. She's a famous model now right (i forget)? So she sees a lot of people, in new shoots, has to remember names, struggles with those kind of things. Really depends on what her job is like - is it studio based or location?

Without going into that side of speculation, she's seeing a ghost from her past. Nika has the reborn haircut of youngling Nika. He's in an exclusive restaurant he could never afford before - jarring her with his appearance in a place she might frequent. The important thing is there's no sense of antagonism or wariness from her, just caution to not mentione the thing directly. She seems happy (even if shocked) to reconnect. This scene is the only thing that makes me wonder if it was completely Nika's involvement that triggered whatever happened (like you, I'm thinking witness protection).

Elsa's Aurora photo suggests she hasn't thought about those events for a while, and she's kept herself too busy to let them get to her. Maybe it was explained to her in some form and she could smell something fishy being covered up, but it seems more like a regret and wistfulness from her, suggesting she saw it as something final.

On the subject of Elsa, I am interested to find out if Sasha knew Elsa and Summer back in the day (meaning she may know what went down). We already know Summer had friends or acquaintances that Nika wasn't aware of (i.e. Nia). Ocean chose to show that Sasha follows Elsa's social media page for whatever reason.

 

[mostwanted8]

On the subject of Elsa, I am interested to find out if Sasha knew Elsa and Summer back in the day (meaning she may know what went down). We already know Summer had friends or acquaintances that Nika wasn't aware of (i.e. Nia). Ocean chose to show that Sasha follows Elsa's social media page for whatever reason.

Who is Elsa

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Damn, I need to replay SG. I can’t follow you guys

 

[John972]

Could be, but i like to think i´m all the Mcs of the games i play, one of the things i love about SG is the inmersive world, this help me to be more inmersed in the game...

I like to think about this like a roleplay, devs give us a character and we can dive in it and act how we think the Mc would react (like i´m doing in SG) or try to change his personality and choose like you would do it if you were the Mc.

True. There's a lot of malleability with MC character building in SG (as with many AVNs). I may play the MC as "Nika," but my first playthrough always involves my own gut choices. Subsequent playthroughs explore the fuller range of choices.

(A part of me wishes SG could be erased from my memory so I could discover a more complete version of it in the future and play it for the first time.)

 

[John972]

Who is Elsa

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Damn, I need to replay SG. I can’t follow you guys

She's Summer's cousin, seen as a child in one of Nika's memories, now a famous model. Nika briefly meets her in the restaurant where Bella and him execute part of their plot against the Holgersons.

 

[BobTheDuck]

On the subject of Elsa, I am interested to find out if Sasha knew Elsa and Summer back in the day (meaning she may know what went down). We already know Summer had friends or acquaintances that Nika wasn't aware of (i.e. Nia). Ocean chose to show that Sasha follows Elsa's social media page for whatever reason.

I think there's a very good chance:

If WiaB's old version of Elena stays true, then Elena was the prosecutor for the evil group, and the eventual plan was for Willi to seduce her away. If we take that as a basis:

- Elena would have been in court cases, and Sasha might have known about them.
- Sasha would already know about the eventual ZPR families accord - two former antagonists P and R allying themselves with the Zane's against their bosses.
- The Cyrus's might have been witnesses that Elena used to bring down her bosses, and she'd know why they'd need protection/new identities when the prison terms were up for the bosses.

Or in other ways:
- Sasha was frriends with Summer just like Nia, and Sasha also lost a close friend, but she holds more resentment than Nia (the 'Maybe he deserved it' comment when Zara and Nadia handcuff him seems deeper than the circumstance).

Regardless, Elsa's reaction to Nika next time they interact and Elena's when she meets Nika will probably tell us a lot. If Elena was involved as a lawyer still, there's quite a high chance Inessa knows some of what is going on as well, and Inessa is there to protect Sasha from being targeted by the defendants who lost their cases to her mother. I assume she's retired in SG in any case, can't imagine her running a golf club while doing court cases, very opposite jobs.

 

[Don Sucio]

Who is Elsa

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Damn, I need to replay SG. I can’t follow you guys

I´m like you too , i don´t remember most of the characters our buddies are mentioning here, but well, is good because i can´t be spoiled if i don´t know about what are they talking

 

[Maviarab]

I use contact lenses so... That explain a lot

*throws hands in the air*...

Well..not a lot I can say to that is there lol. I'm defeated.

 

[Doomyk]

On the subject of Elsa, I am interested to find out if Sasha knew Elsa and Summer back in the day (meaning she may know what went down). We already know Summer had friends or acquaintances that Nika wasn't aware of (i.e. Nia). Ocean chose to show that Sasha follows Elsa's social media page for whatever reason.

Especially considering that it is on Bella’s path, if you kiss her, Sasha will say in the event with handcuffs that he may have deserved punishment. Considering the possibility that Summer may be alive, wait for the opportunity to see Nika, then in the eyes of Sasha, who is completely such for eternal love, romantic books and so on, Nika committed a mortal sin for not waiting. True, this contrasts somewhat with the fact that Sasha herself is a love interest.

MC to Amber during therapy:
"After the thing with Su-m..." *you inhale deeply.* "After Summer's disappearance... Nami and I got very close.."

Honestly, the darkest part of the story. There are some inconsistencies. He tells Amber that after Summer’s disappearance, Nami warmed up and they became closer, but in a conversation with Niya there is the opposite information. In general, there are some inaccuracies between Amber’s story, conversations with Nami and Niya.

I still wonder if the cabin incident was the straw that broke the camel's back. Then again, maybe it was something that involved Nami as well...

Nami is generally a dark horse. At Victoria's house, he practically says that Nami is completely to blame for his condition, stopping in time and saying *partially*. But I am tormented by vague doubts about Summer herself. On the one hand, a lot indicates that Summer is a completely different person. This is why Nia’s flashback was so important, despite people’s protests, that such information should not be on separate paths. It was Nya who fully established that Summer at least lived and was a separate person, and not an alter ego or anything else. However, I am still tormented by vague doubts about some unclear dialogues in the scene on the lake (Chapter 4), which may be greatly rethought with the new chapters and Nami’s words in chapter 5, on her path, when she says that if everything goes to dust, Raven Nika and Phoenix Nami are gone.

The important thing is there's no sense of antagonism or wariness from her, just caution to not mentione the thing directly. She seems happy (even if shocked) to reconnect.

And also a great way to show the difference between her and Holgerson. Elsa, who has not seen Nika for eons and clearly has something to ask and tell, greets rather tactfully and then takes her leave. And an old dick who interferes like a donkey, without manners or decency.

 

[Mortarion]

Either you didn't really pay attention or you lie to stir up shit again.

 

[Adhdclassic]

When the MCs life is great and stable Summer will either bump into the MC or she will show up on a feed in his social media.

 

[Don Sucio]

When the MCs life is great and stable Summer will either bump into the MC or she will show up on a feed in his social media.

Indeed, Summer reappearance will be a completely chaos for Nika life... Is she returns, i´m not sure yet she is going to return (knowing that i didn´t play the last update,maybe there happen something new and big for the plot)

 

[RNasc4444]

You should google impotence, Nika is not impotent. Either you didn't really pay attention or you lie to stir up shit again.

To be fair, while you are correct, the MC's "condition" is/has been all over the fucking place from the start. Either Ocean wants ambiguity on the subject or he sucks at conveying exactly what's wrong.

In early iterations his interest in sex was almost non-existent as if he was asexual. Then it morphed into his hung up on Summer being so bad he could not envision anyone but her as a potential sex partner. Now we know he has no "hardware" issues as he states he can get boners and Nami is even able to stimulate him enough to get one in the jacuzzi. But just as you think you got his issues figured out, the scene with Bella in bed pops up and you're left scrambling to figure out just wtf is wrong with that moron. He clearly has a strong enough emotional bond to "date" or consider dating Bella. He clearly likes her body as per his own thoughts. Yet dude acts like a robot while cuddling her in bed as if he was asexual. And suddenly his character got so much development it went right back to the starting point.

It's kinda hard to understand. So if someone calls him impotent, I don't bother correcting them because none of us actually have a clear picture of what the fuck he is. Hopefully the next session with Amber will offer some clarification.

 

[Penfold Mole]

I doubt his condition has been diagnosed by any specialists so far and even doctors get their diagnoses wrong on difficult cases.
Amber is likely the first specialist making an attempt to sort it out. So the confusion about how to call his condition seems quite natural.

 

[Doomyk]

I think there's a very good chance:

If WiaB's old version of Elena stays true, then Elena was the prosecutor for the evil group, and the eventual plan was for Willi to seduce her away. If we take that as a basis:

- Elena would have been in court cases, and Sasha might have known about them.
- Sasha would already know about the eventual ZPR families accord - two former antagonists P and R allying themselves with the Zane's against their bosses.
- The Cyrus's might have been witnesses that Elena used to bring down her bosses, and she'd know why they'd need protection/new identities when the prison terms were up for the bosses.

Or in other ways:
- Sasha was frriends with Summer just like Nia, and Sasha also lost a close friend, but she holds more resentment than Nia (the 'Maybe he deserved it' comment when Zara and Nadia handcuff him seems deeper than the circumstance).

Regardless, Elsa's reaction to Nika next time they interact and Elena's when she meets Nika will probably tell us a lot. If Elena was involved as a lawyer still, there's quite a high chance Inessa knows some of what is going on as well, and Inessa is there to protect Sasha from being targeted by the defendants who lost their cases to her mother. I assume she's retired in SG in any case, can't imagine her running a golf club while doing court cases, very opposite jobs.

I may be thinking a lot, but if you consider that all three clans are connected with crime, like Elena herself, could her acquaintance with Nick Benz be a hint that Nick himself is connected with crime. I know, i know, you will say that if they know each other, it doesn’t mean anything at all. But honestly, i couldn’t shake the feeling from his first appearance that he was some kind of mafioso. Especially in the last chapter. And the story with the car accident could be a lie. Yes, most likely i’m wrong , otherwise his ex-wife would not have received divorce papers, but would have been feeding the fish (not Katie).
PS: I just now realized that this is not the best idea for William from wiab to become a mafioso. One of their rules is not to look at other people’s wives. It will be hard not to break the rules on the first day after the oath

 

[Winterstale]

When the MCs life is great and stable Summer will either bump into the MC or she will show up on a feed in his social media.

 

[Doomyk]

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[AlexFXR]

so you are asking all the people that probably blocked you without tagging them lmfao.

They have a lot of additional accounts. So don't worry, they read everything.