VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[RNasc4444]

We agree on some things but...

Where are you getting your stats for the overwhelming majority of people playing Summers Gone disable their music?

I get that you disagree with Ocean's reasoning for censoring some of his images to preserve music licenses, but SG has Great music.

IMO - yes - My opinion - Ocean's music helps to make SG a Great AVN.

You can certainly speak for yourself here, but I Know you don't speak for the overwhelming majority of people playing Summers Gone.

I can say that I have Rarely seen any of Ocean's Paying supporters complain about his music and if we are willing to support Ocean's music choices with our $ (anyone who truly disagreed would stop supporting with $, right?), why wouldn't he take that into account when deciding to create a Steam rev of SG?

Just saying...

Cheers!!

C'mon Pax!
You know I adore your cheerful and positive posts. And I know you're gonna carry Ocean's water (no pun intended) no matter what. But you know damn well I was speaking in general. I even made sure to say "these games" and not "SG". Most games/devs don't give a crap about music/sound. So people usually learn to just mute or disable it because when it's there it's usually crap.

You're being extra disingenuous by not only trying to imply that I don't like his music/don't find it beneficial or impactful and mentioning only what his supporters want. Wasn't the whole goal of the Steam release to find new customers??

My stance is simple. As good as SG's music is, it's not at all worth censoring hundreds of renders over it. You are free to disagree but please don't twist my arguments.

 

[TanyaValmer]

So there's nothing new other than the remake of old chapters?, meaning it ends on the same Mila at Nick's part ?

 

[zack1419]

So there's nothing new other than the remake of old chapters?, meaning it ends on the same Mila at Nick's part ?

just play it and report back to us. im sure as shit not ganna play a overly censored steam version.

 

[Malicre]

I really wonder how his discord / patreon is doing right now. Its either completely fine or an absolute shitshow.

 

[Thriller]

So is Patreon version or SubscribeStar version going to be different from the Steam version?

 

[zack1419]

I really wonder how his discord / patreon is doing right now. Its either completely fine or a absolute shitshow.

only sycophants left there i would assume.

 

[bardock8114]

So is Patreon version or SubscribeStar version going to be different from the Steam Version?

I heard two versions. One is uncensored and today I heard it will be the same as the steam version. So no one KNOWS.

 

[Dessolos]

Ok..I've lost count....has someone been keeping count for me...I can't keep up guys

I think it was 278 last I saw a number

Yes but who's to say season 2 won't be like the neutered steam version and less like season 1? Mark my words if this is the route they are going to take this game will end as a visual novel and not an adult visual novel.

expect it was said before Season 2 will have lewd scenes and S1 was only self censored because he was trying to sell it in countries that have harder restrictions on these games. But since S2 is going to have lewds Ocean won't even try. It had nothing to do with steam. Now if steam changes some of their polices by time S2 is done then maybe there could be another censored version.

 

[Deximay]

no just remaster for steam, wait another 3 years for S2 Ep1

this in a nutshell, for most games around here. There are games that still didn't finish since I made an account here in 2017 lol we're fed literal shit.

 

[jllkfsdj]

This is piss poor logic because guess what, all those pre-18 year olds who spent money on the first version of the game still aren't 18, so ANOTHER sanitized version of the game will be released.

Once censorship starts it doesn't end, and a dev or writer who 'remolds' their game to conform to what they think will be 'accepted' by society will be forever chasing moving goalposts.

I was looking forward to this one, but now it's not worth the time when the dev is constantly removing content that was already in there because someone might get their 1mm thin skin bruised or their jimmies rustled.

Agreed, especially about start/end of censorhips!

Well, i for one can't wait for when he starts getting burned by the very people he's trying to kiss up to cause he's "not doing enough!" or "he could've done more!" or something else like that. Cyberpunk tried kissing up to them with same results and others have tried also, nobody succeded in doing enough. What they dont realize is that these people will never accept anything anyone does because they built their entire identities around being "victims" and being "misunderstood". If they ever got what they claim they want then they would lose the basis of their existence. Hence why they either keep demanding more or are just constantly changing their demands.

Ocean is just the next sucker arrogant enough to convince himself that HE will be different, that he will succeed where others failed.

Wanna know what's funny? They don't even care about SG in the first place. They won't buy it, they won't play it, for them it's just another fortress to conquer and evict it's former owners. And Ocean is gonna go out in flames like the thousands of other fools before him. And when he goes down it will be glorious.

Just too bad he took such an amazing story with him into the abyss of censorship and pleasing the unpleasable.

eva is the skinny girl he calls beanpole

Yes, she was an annoying character, she took us to Bella's place with her car

Ah, the ever-angry bitch. Got it, thanks! What did he do to make her so angry? Just called her beanpole?

 

[LastOne24/7]

Saves have always been problematical with this game. After the latest rework, I assume that past saves will no longer work.....

 

[Malicre]

I think it was 278 last I saw a number


expect it was said before Season 2 will have lewd scenes and S1 was only self censored because he was trying to sell it in countries that have harder restrictions on these games. But since S2 is going to have lewds Ocean won't even try. It had nothing to do with steam. Now if steam changes some of their polices by time S2 is done then maybe there could be another censored version.

Oh yeah? then please explain all the dialogue changes. We are waiting with baited breath.

 

[Krytax123]

Interresting change, seems like Miru is well known

 

[Pif paf]

Wow, do you have these brilliant ideas popping into your head often?
How would Ocean be able to change the contents of the OP of this thread while not even being a member of this forum? Not to mention that he never had any control over it while he still was.

Awesome! glad 2 make u feel better!
so the owner of this thread who placed so called dev notes should change them accordingly, cause right now they're not true

 

[jllkfsdj]

But since S2 is going to have lewds Ocean won't even try.

Famous last words, my friend, famous last words.

 

[aerox1234]

Man I hate when games blow up and releases take longer and longer for the dev to milk every single update. Guess I'll come back in 2054 when I can finally make some little cheetos.

 

[Mortarion]

Bold of you to assume that they would only remove music liscenses. They literally just removed a line about a fuck machine, like REALLY? There's no telling what else they will remove.

Music licenses are the one and only reason for some kind of "censoring".
If we want to use this word, I personally would not call it so.
Ocean wanted to avoid Adult Only rating on SG at all costs and didn't give steam any chances to screw him up, otherwise Artlist would have screwed him - money <10k$ + music gone - and a DMCA strike would hit instantly on steam.

Steam Version and Patreon version will be the same:




WIAB will not have this limitations, because the WIAB had from the beginning on explicit content and has from the get go Adult Only rating.

I can't say anything bout the changed dialogs because I haven't played the game till now, and if there are some changed dialogs then who cares?
If the are not cut out without any replacement then I'm fine with it, If the replacement makes sense or is funny or both - even better.

 

[Malicre]

Famous last words, my friend, famous last words.

Or the lewd scenes will be so tame he won't have to censor them.

 

[bardock8114]

Music licenses are the one and only reason for some kind of "censoring".
If we want to use this word, I personally would not call it so.
Ocean wanted to avoid Adult Only rating on SG at all costs and didn't give steam any chances to screw him up, otherwise Artlist would have screwed him - money <10k$ + music gone - and a DMCA strike would hit instantly on steam.

Steam Version and Patreon version will be the same:

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Yeah game is dead for me. What a fucking shame. I really hope this will notaffect his other game a all But I nhighly doubt it.

 

[Dessolos]

Oh yeah? then please explain all the dialogue changes. We are waiting with baited breath.

well if there was any dialogue changes im unaware of any. I was going by what was said in devlogs and post by other users on the subject when it comes to the lewds being self censored. But I assume any dialogue changes are primary do to music licenses or because he wanted a certain rating for certain countries and well he isn't going to try for that rating in S2. So I dont see why he would self censor himself again. Unless he gets more music which requires a license that makes it necessary but I swore I read somewhere someone said he going to not use music that requires a license in S2 but that could change if true.

All im saying if he does do it again it will be on him not Steam unless they change a policy. But from things ive read it doesn't look like he will for S2.