VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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PaxHadrian17 said:
I know that Ocean removed the MC full frontal in the clothing store to try to appease the gods of Steam (at least re: the geoblock in Germany).

I thought he did a good job showing Bella's reaction in this scene.

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Bella Is interested, even if she still won't admit it to herself... or the MC.

Cheers!! :coffee:
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well congratulations for you since he added renders into that scene
whereas Cheeto jacuzzi scene he just pulled renders out and now it's ridiculous now we rely on a mod if it will even get updated

also he complete pulled another good Cheeto scene like Blizzard99 mentioned in post #36,130 mention
 
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BobTheDuck said:
1. Mila and Nika walked to the cafe, and Vic rolled there, so Mario is also in walking distance of the college with Antony.
2. I'll have to look for her, I don't think I've seen her in the college.
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OK. here we go... (...and remember what the story says about the nature of Zara and Melanie's interactions in the past - I don't think they'd have a civil conversation or just stare at each other, especially if Melanie wasn't supposed to be there (in the ZPR hallway)):

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well i've just read Sancho Pança comments about the changes here and no problem with any adult content anymore as it is sanitized to PG-013 level now, so from AVN to VN in an update
 
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John972 said:
OK. here we go... (...and remember what the story says about the nature of Zara and Melanie's interactions in the past - I don't think they'd have a civil conversation or just stare at each other, especially if Melanie wasn't supposed to be there (in the ZPR hallway)):

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Really well spotted, and yeah I agree with your reasoning. As she's been highlighted so obviously, and given her complexion, what if she's Ayua's cousin/Leia's daughter? She does seem to be lurking in the same way Sasha and her group lurk, but she seems far more of a lone wolf

Edit: John972 I just reached the pizza shop scene - what if goth girl isn't looking at Nami, but her earring? Imagine if she was Leia's daughter, and saw a stranger wearing that. That'd be wild.
 
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Tho visuals done by Oceanlab always great, but one thing bothers me. Temperature difference. I don't know what devs use for AVN color grading, is it done in engine or in Lightroom for example, but consistency is key. I can notice kelvin shift right away. One shot is cold another is slightly warmer.
 
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AlexFXR said:
Why is this nonsense? This is the custom on Patreon; everyone who makes reworks is called milkmaids. People on Patreon have already encountered developers who constantly postpone the release of new chapters due to reworks. Such dishonest developers only took money, but did not develop their games, so they began to be called milkmen. Doesn't remind you of anything? Ocean's plot has been stagnant without development for several years now, so people stop believing him. They have every right to do so.:cry:
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Only milkers just do remakes and but the one who is providing actual chapters alongside those reworks doesn't fall in the category of those milker (not to me) and Ocean was providing way more renders in the chapters alongside with those rework renders. The story suffer bcz of renders? Absolutely. Will hope of season 2 not to be repeat of season 1.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
Really well spotted, and yeah I agree with your reasoning. As she's been highlighted so obviously, and given her complexion, what if she's Ayua's cousin/Leia's daughter? She does seem to be lurking in the same way Sasha and her group lurk, but she seems far more of a lone wolf
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Yeah, who knows why Ocean chooses to focus on her. That instance on the bus was really random.
 
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John972 said:
Having watched this rework saga unfold since 2021:

1. Ocean began reworking the original game. By original game, I am referring to Chs 1 to 3.5.

Ch 4 was the first full chapter to feature visuals of the quality they are now. The quality of the visuals (and some of the writing) in those early chapters was very poor compared to now.

This rework was a long and drawn out process. He said that process is finished with the release of Season 1 (personally, I'd have no problem if Ocean reworked renders in Chs 3 and 3.5 to bring everything up to that Ch 4 quality. Instead, he drew a line under everything and put a disclaimer with the Steam release explaining why the Ch 3 and 3.5 renders look different to the rest).

2. A Music licensing agency pulled the plug on AVN developers with little warning. Some musicians also barred their work being used with adult content. This was a wake-up call for all AVN developers (many games seen on F95 were affected by the music licensing fiasco) and now we have Patreon doing a similar thing with little warning (witness WIAB getting pulled from Patreon). In terms of SG, loosing music licenses absolutely screwed several existing cinematics in SG, which were designed and synced around specific music tracks. This required reworks of existing material because it was forced via a third-party service provider, NOT because Ocean wanted to do it.

3. Ocean decided to keep his existing music in the game. This caused a rethink of the content in what is now Season 1 because Ocean did not want to risk loosing those existing music licenses (see the first two sentences of 2. above). Again, This required modification or removal of existing material because it was forced via a third-party service provider, NOT because Ocean wanted to do it.

Any argument that Ocean should have just ditched the music is meaningless. SG is designed to be an audio-visual experience and Ocean is sticking to that.

4. Then we get the Steam restrictions. Yes, Ocean made the choice to market the game on Steam and to market it specifically in his home country. This meant Ocean had to make further changes to comply with a third-party service provider. This was made easier because of changes already required to compile with music licensing. Several knowledgeable people in this thread have previously explained the importance of a German Steam release for SG (including Ocean having a major fan base in that country).

Point 1. above is about the rework Ocean wanted to make. Points 2. to 4. above are about the reworks Ocean needed to make because of third-party restrictions.









You ARE making predictions for what may or may not happen going forward into Season 2 by prescribing all the reasons for the reworks solely to Ocean's alleged OCD. No Developer can easily plan for what happened with 2, 3, and to a lesser extent 4. above.

You prescribe future actions on reworks, despite Ocean declaring that the major three-year game rework is over with the completion of Season 1.

Without all the facts surrounding decisions made by the Developer and without seeing the consequences of these decisions one or two years from now, who the f^^k are we to rush to judgement on the quality of those decisions. I am trying to reserve any judgement or conclusions for the future.

Like I said, let's see where everything is at by this time next year.
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Saying that chapter 2 will have same fate if it is a repeat of season 1 decisions makes me "he's predicting"?(y). Why didn't Ocean tame the nudity at the first issue of the music? He tried to salvage it but didn't work and had to remove music and do rework, setting up chain reactions. The decision cannot be 1 single point failure, a buncha issues line making a chain reaction. Will leave it at that, I'm tired of justifying/explaining same points. We'll see season2 for that, that is If I'm alive till then;). PEACE!

#HOPE_SG_SEASON2
 
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AlexFXR said:
Is this what you consider a feast for the eyes? This is just one robbery scene where there are hundreds more such renderings.

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All style, no substance. I haven't played it yet and honestly given what I've seen so far I'll prob stick to the Beta and ignore this version. It seems really hard to defend wasting so much time and effort on pointless average renders. Like polishing a turd before you flush it...
 
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a-lex said:
anyone know what McCoZa4x0 means?
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Mc = Main character (Nika)
Za = Zara
Co / NoCo = Your interpretation. Could be coaching, controlling, companion etc.

Ocean uses weird event markers, sometimes even mixing in german. This is one of the easier ones to decipher.
 
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