BobTheDuck

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What surprises me is that Nami's breasts were censored at the lake, but not in the rest of the game.

The jacuzzi scene has also been drastically censored. The bubbling water now looks much more believable, but of course it obscures what we previously saw in the uncensored version.
What is on steam is what Ocean tried to get rated for "Ocassional Nudity". Steam kept requiring him to cut more and more scenes, until he gave up and settled for "Frequent Nudity", and will now return what he can that doesn't put it into 18+. I think it was a case off trying to get the percentage down, and cutting the renders that he felt were less important to the story. Some of Nami's earlier renders show her vulnerability, or cringe factor, while the lake scene nudity doesn't really cahnge the fact she's straddling him either way.

Basically nothing with below waist from the front will be returned. I haven't gotten past Nick's dinner at my playthrough yet, so I haven't seen what happens at the movie/pizza night...

I'm surprised at the full frontal treats, but because they're DLC sold separately I imagine that gets around any licensing issues.

What's the difference between Steam version and Chapter 5 beta?
Why are people angry is there some sort of censorship?
- Ch5 Beta doesn't have the completed Ch2 and Ch3 reworks, so there are quite a few continuity errors and very old renders that are painfully lower quality in the beta. Ch 5 full/Steam has all the rework complete with only bug/oversight issues, but it's the completed chapters 1-5 (+2150 new renders for Ch2,3 and 4)
- it requires a restart to see all the new renders.
- any lewds steam considered 18+ got cut, which is penis, vagina or sexual activity.
- Ocean tried to reduce the lewd content enough to meet steams requirements but it didn't succeed, so he will return some of the non 18+ lewds seeing he didn't manage to get the rating he'd hoped for probably in a patch.

People are mad because of the lewd content being cut basically, and that steam released before patreon. THe other things they're mad about they're always mad about (release cycle slow burn).
 

Bluee7

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I did not encounter this problem, but I play SG (CH 5 B) on an external HD while I play Steam on my desktop.

Did you delete your Renpy save files for Summers gone?

Did you download CH 5 B and try playing that from the end of your CH 4.5 saves?

Are you playing on PC, MAC or Android?

If you can reply with more information and any traceback log, if available, someone may be able to give you more specific ideas to help than what I provided above.

GL!

Cheers!! :coffee:
I delete everything(game folder, appdata renpy files) and start newly steam release. I am playing on w11 and how can i share traceback log.
 

hzjujk

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When these project(s) were started it was, I suspect, to try to make some extra money with a porn story. The person or people who started it certainly had fun telling a story, but above all they had fun creating 3D graphics with a sexual background. (You can see that this is fun in the many nude pictures by many different painters over the centuries (all just horny guys ;)).
Over time, the economic aspect has become more and more important. What was (probably) a part-time job at the beginning has become a full-time job.
OceanLab still wants to make good quality erotic pictures and tell an interesting, slowly building story but above all he wants/needs to make money with it. His supporters on Patreon have/wanted to pay him monthly contributions for years.
Then the idea for Steam came! It was announced relatively early on that a Steam release would reach a larger audience and of course make more money. No secret was made of this.
Now the thing is, a company that sells software will not only sell this product once, but many times and will also sell the software to customers twice as an update. That's how it is and no one is bothered by it.
Here the situation is a little different. The supporters on Patreon have also been paying for years for something I call profit optimization, others here call it milking. For me, they paid so that OceanLab had time to perfect its product and then sell it on Steam without getting the corresponding value in return. Of course his supporters also got the publications, but capitalism still has nothing to do with morality.
But before you complain about Ocenlab, one thing should be considered beforehand. OceanLab announced its plan early and it is my duty and my right as a Patreon member to respond accordingly with the amount of my contributions. That's called personal responsibility!

To make it clear again, in my opinion his supporters have a reason to complain that they did not receive the appropriate value for their contributions. If they've come to terms with it, who am I to judge them?
Those who have been stealing OceanLab's product for years and keep getting upset about the milking in this thread, on the other hand, lack any form of self-reflection.
 

Doomyk

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Hmm, interesting that the coach named Mila Ashley and said that they looked alike. Could this be a reference to Ashley Trister (Asavera?)
 

BobTheDuck

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Guys can someone tell me is there any difference between season 1 download and ch 5 beta download ?
Three posts before you:

Differences beftween beta and Season 1 at the bottom

It has been repeatedly mentioned but I get that the level of noise is high :coffee::whistle:

Hmm, interesting that the coach named Mila Ashley and said that they looked alike. Could this be a reference to Ashley Trister (Asavera?)
How have you connected Ashley with Asavera? There's no such link yet implied in WiaB as pre reworkAshley was directly employed by the cult leader dude bro, and usurped Donna if I remember correctly, and the look is very tenuous other than they are both blond. Also, I mean, which chapter Mila? :HideThePain:

Like Krytax123 I thought it was a reference to Kate and Ashley or similar

Edit:

You say it - 35 pages full of nonsense after release of compressed version here within 3 days is a heavy load. :ROFLMAO:
Who is reading this? o_O

No wonder the really important postings going lost.

But thanks for your patience :love:
Out of reacts, so thanks :giggle:
 
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artofwar

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Once upon a time this game was good now its just a borefest, the story is going literally nowhere and the dev keeps introducing pointless new characters every update when already established characters are no where to be seen. Its becoming obvious that he is milking this game with a bunch of filler content at this point, the story has lost its direction and I think ocean is aware of that.
It's about time to scrap everything and start again tbh. Wouldn't be the first time... or the second... or the third...
 

codex35

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Seriously disappointed that there is no new content (any info what's next, WiAB or SG?), just the rework of the already existing one. And no Nami titties at the lake is also disappointing.
dude how can you disappointed ? Ocean has been saying for months that there will be no new content (for season 2)
I think 2100 new render is not "new content" for you
 

turbojoe

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but I get that the level of noise is high :coffee::whistle:
You say it - 35 pages full of nonsense after release of compressed version here within 3 days is a heavy load. :ROFLMAO:
Who is reading this? o_O

No wonder the really important postings going lost.

But thanks for your patience :love:
 

Krytax123

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About the holgerson gala

With the new information that Zoey will be around during the holgerson gala and having a good relationship with Bella ..

Do you guys think Zoey will approach Nika? Katie obviously knows about him so Zoey probably does too?

Would lead to another surprise pikachu face for Bella, first Elsa, now Zoey.

I kinda like these interactions.

The opposite are interactions with Ayua or Sasha who always make me feel like they know more about Nika than he does himself (these are fun too tho).
 
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massagecook01

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Why is this nonsense? This is the custom on Patreon; everyone who makes reworks is called milkmaids. People on Patreon have already encountered developers who constantly postpone the release of new chapters due to reworks. Such dishonest developers only took money, but did not develop their games, so they began to be called milkmen. Doesn't remind you of anything? Ocean's plot has been stagnant without development for several years now, so people stop believing him. They have every right to do so.:cry:
i was supporting a developer a while back and for a year and i got tired of him making excuses about he had another job and he didn't have time due to his family this and that then to being sick in the hospital so i said to myself if this developer has all these problems going on in his life why take our money and delay the next update why can't he put a hold on our payments so i stopped supporting him i felt cheated. and this has been happening to many developers with their excuses, time is money my money means something to me but more important my time i refuse to waste it on a developer that just cares about money not his fans.
 
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