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What do you mean "we are"? I never thought Nika and Nami are related to the Zanes. They're Cyrus. Okay, Nami isn't a Cyrus anymore because of reasons. But I for myself never was in that Zane theory.
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Nika met Summer's parents, who called him trash. Nika would remember Katie, just as much as he recognised Elsa. Katie would also still probably think he was trash. Katie being present while Summer is still gone would imply Summer is dead though.
Nika also remembers (or thinks he does) his mother reading to him. So, chances are he'll recognise someone's voice or there will be dialogue about how comforting the voice is if his mother isn't dead and he's been lied to.
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It is a figure of wording not a full collective. As far as the names today it Cyrus tomorrow it Davis. Pace we are going we will never know.
Just because some people say they are doesn't make them it. I think they were both just orphaned at the same time (game logic) they grew up and grew close to each other. Have a brother/sister like bond but also, more than that.
The brother/sister bond for orphans. If you were an orphan and grew close to another boy/girl, they would be your what, brother/sister, right? you both get adopted by the same person/people, you guys won't stop the brotherly/sisterly bond.
Well, more like "naughty, sister/brother" bond lol
I mean, if I was desperate for these characters to be related, and if I could make a patch? best believe it'll be out with whatever version is out lol. When people want something and want it bad, they on it.
Well, they should make up their dumb ass minds. So many games from back then that link to this/that, I don't want to hear their lame excuses. Makes me not want to risk buying shit on there anymore... can't download shit from here cause of the shady downloads now... I can quit cold turkey, right? nothing wrong with quitting....
Yes people will make the patch because they want it, but if that is the case where is the lewdpatcher patch(most would say the official patch). If the person who made that patch specifically is in this community why hasn't that came out yet and someone else had to make there own patch, because it probably was one particular dev who made the patch himself.
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until there is a Story reason i'm always gonna assume they are related. The game just feels much better when they are to me.
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Well, I've never saw a gane on Steam with links to Patreon or even mentioning it. Sure, everyone knows who the devs are thanking in the credits when they're thanking their "supporters", but that's it. So what's there to make up their mind? Or do you mean the devs? Well, for them it's easy: don't give a shit about the incest crowd or just be not on Patreon.
I can literally hear the whining from the devs about the situation.
You know there's a patch out for this special kink, don't you? It's even linked in OP.
No, it wasn't. This dumb ipatch just wasn't updated from that guy.
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Incest fans can believe whatever they want, but there's no such possibility. Half of the Lis might end up being William's daughters. Ayua is Zane and will probably be available at least for sexual interactions. Sasha, Vanessa and Zara are most likely Zanes. That's one of the reasons why most of them are incompatible for throuples.There is a possibility that MC and Nami are the children of William and Leia. So incest fans might have a reason to go crazy
They're related. Just not blood-related.
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Vanessa and Zara are most likely Katarinas daughters. I could be wrong don't hold me to it. coming by the description of the mother being a Tennis goddess plus her temper reminds me of Kat. Sasha if I remember is a Petrova.
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I do not understand what did you write. Do you mean that the movie Baise moi is rated 13+?
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Their mother is probably Donna Revera, not Katarina or Leia.
They're still most likely Zanes. The same is true for Sasha.
Because of that, Nika can't be Zane. But Nami might be.
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Sasha could be Zane if her father was Zane (Will or another Zane), because the name Petrova came from her mother (as far as I know, Elena Petrova is still single at WiAB, and that is her maiden name). Most likely Elina is a single mother.
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For Nick to be their father AND for Zara and Vanessa to be Zane, Leia, Katie or Helen (or Kat, seeing she's a cousin, even if the Zane gene is Dylan's ie Helen has likely married into the Zane name) would need to be the mother. The only way for Donna to be their mother AND to be Zane is for Nick not to be their father.
Mila knows Zara even if she doesn't know Vanessa, but Mila doesn't know who is Revera, only that someone on the first team is a Revera, so Donna's unlikely to be their mother - Zara isn't on the first team, as is evident by her looking at the trophies and the way Stahl and Hill wonder if they can disguise her as a guy to put her on their team.
Also, any of the potential LI's in WiaB that can get pregnant won't automatically be romanced by every player - that means that Willi isn't guaranteed to be the father of any of the characters, other than what Ocean decided has to be canon (which we don't know). The LI's will still have children whether or not they're romanced - ie. There will always be a Revera on the first team, there will always be Sasha, and there will always be Ayua, even if the player does a path in WiaB where Willi blueballs himself.
Or, Elena keeps her maiden name as a famous professional, as is quite common, or is divorced and both she and Sasha go by her maiden name.
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Yeap. I didn't take poor Nick into account, so I edited the post. Too late.
But yeah, I'm leaning towards the theory that Nick isn't their biological father.
Otherwise, their mother is Leia or Katarina. Obviously not Helen or Katie.
I'm guessing Donna is Zara and Vanessa's mother only because of how similar they look.
I know that. But even the not-guaranteed Zanes exclude the possibility of Nika being Zane.
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You just gave me back hope that Zara and Vanessa are Leia and William's daughters.
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My reason against Donna is that Mila would know Zara was one of the three clans that run ZPR. Mila's not friends with Sasha, but knows she's part of the elite, she knows Ayua, and from what we've seen the children of the three families seem to get along - so my guess is that someone other than Donna was Nick's wife. She doesn't even have to be a significant player (yet) in WiaB - she could be one of Leia's club turned gold digger after she got impregnated by Willi.Yeap. I didn't take poor Nick into account, so I edited the post. Too late.
But yeah, I'm leaning towards the theory that Nick isn't their biological father.
Otherwise, their mother is Leia or Katarina. Obviously not Helen or Katie.
I'm guessing Donna is Zara and Vanessa's mother only because of how similar they look.
Ocean's kept the cards very close to his chest regarding these revelations, and I think he enjoys keeping us guessing.
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You can play them as transexuals who identify as refrigerators for all I care, that's not the issue. The issue here is and always has been the simple fact that the game makes absolutely 0 sense if the MC and Nami aren't related by blood. Simple as that. I've stated this dozens of times. If Ocean intends for them not to be related then sooner or later S1 will need an entire script overhaul.
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And at least me and Bob stated the opposite. Nika and Nami's relationship makes sense if they're not related by blood. There's 0 sense only if they call each other roommates. That's my personal opinion and that's why the i-patch is needed. We've discussed this dozens of times already. But maybe we missed some important detail. Can you point out why this is a simple fact?
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The only issue is the logistical one: Ocean's avoided definiing the relationship for too long and this will create more inconsistencies and interpretation errors the further the story develops. The taboo CAN work the same with a strict upbringing (which is why the discussions with Nami exist where Noji makes things weird between them), but the longer Ocean goes without clearly defining, the harder it is for people to understand the dialogue. Everyone mistakes them for a cute couple because they don't look genetically similar at all, no one gets awkward or makes a joke at their expense (more because Ocean wouldn't want to suggest it too much for patreon reasons), but the sense of what would happen if it became public is not based on a personal taboo but a societal one, which strongly suggests the relationship.
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Except Sasha is not Leia's daughter, so there is no reason to suspect that Leia gave one to each of her 'daughters'. We just have to see how things play out a bit more, I doubt there will be a simple ahhhhh moment regards to that particular revelation. We'll find out the reason, and Ocean will have another mystery behind it, so we still will be left uncertain, but with maybe more rope to hang ourselves with theory wise. I love it, it's fun trying to unravel it all.