VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

is it in WiaB original version where there is a scene of Miru's mom and another family member?
i seem to remember something like that.

From memory yes. I cannot remember much more, but Miru's sister or cousin finds her, and that's why Miru doesn't go on the camping trip. We didn't find out any of the significance of that, and it's unlinkely to be the same situation as previously, as Miru was redone to be classier than she was in every single way. Even her baby talk is a step up from her original dialogue, so I imagine she'll have an ungraded background as well

and yet we're inundated with incest games from patreon

I wos going to say we're innudated with roomies and landlady games from patreon, but it seems they disagree with rent free tenants as being too unrealistic and are slowly banning them Tremonia did a far better explanation though.

Tremonia That's actually good news, not that I have anything against incest fans, but there's too much of it besides the fact that I'm not interested in it.

As for the children of William and Leah, based on the information available, my assumption seems logical to me, but who knows...

I agree, as a plot point for random AVN stories, it was simply a way to quickly gather interest and patrons. AVN writers will have to think harder to distinguish themselves seeing this is now risky to include.

Regards Nika and Nami's parents, there are so many potentials. Daphne could easily be Nami's mother with Willi as father and Leia Nika's with someone she NTR's Willi with. Like in the original, Willi could get people pregnant that he's not in a relationship with, and wouldn't even know about them. I suspect Mirian and Nora could be Gina's children with Willi as her boyfriend in WiaB wants to be cucked. The possibilities are pretty endless. The could even be Dylan's children, as Dylan's got a bit of the red himself, and has already fathered dairhaired greenish eyed Leia.

Most of the guesswork is people trying to fit WiaB's story to their preferred narrative for Nika and Nami, based on their preferred kinks. They are very clearly roomies, and we all understand AVN logic means they're not paying rent - but for the poeple who want Noji to be their mom, they's just based on their desire for a certain relationship that makes no sense in the context of the genetics on display.

My personal belief is that the 'uncle' that taught Nika basketball is Willi. Whether he was falsely introduced as an uncle, when he was actually NIka's father, we'll have to see.

I like the idea of Dylan having an affair to get some while Helen's distant, and Nika ending up being Katie's younger half brother. That'd be a wild plot twist - Nika would be a Cyrus (born with the mother's family name, because there's no marriage) then, but it would make for really awkward situations. Maybe they are being looked after as Willi's wild oats?

Basically everybody says Nika and Nami are related. Nami is classified as a LI. You kiss her, cup her breast, slap her butt and in the end you are given the option to walkaway or go for it. Ocean has said zero incest. Sooooo Nika and Nami can't be family. Am I wrong?

Ocean has said zero incest. This is true. The Zane's in WiaB somehow share the same family name, it must be the equivalent of Smith. Personally it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Tremonia]

Not really good, especially for the people who bought these games on Steam that had the options to "define the relas or name each character" only for those same games to end up with "landlandies and roommates"? people bought a certain version, not that shit.

Steam doesn't have this restrictions. You can put incest on Steam as much as you want as long as all characters are legal age and it happens in consent. But Steam has other restrictions like not linking to crowdfunding in the game, or even mention the platforms to it.

Basically everybody says Nika and Nami are related.

Well, they are. That was it all from the beginning. There's no way to think otherwise. We all know why that was changed from the dev. So we've to be patient and see how Ocean will make this roomie thing work in the story. My personal guess is that something happened to Nika's parents related to the story and Nami's parents are involved, like wrong place at the wrong time. Nojiko's in some way involved with Nika's parents and took care of him and the last living "victim" (Nami) of them, because both had to went into foster care without her.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Here is another shit theory. What if we are looking at this all wrong. Nika and Nami are not related to the Zanes. What if Summer was a Zane. Specifically, daughter to Katie Zane.

 

[Tremonia]

What if we are looking at this all wrong. Nika and Nami are not related to the Zanes.

What do you mean "we are"? I never thought Nika and Nami are related to the Zanes. They're Cyrus. Okay, Nami isn't a Cyrus anymore because of reasons. But I for myself never was in that Zane theory.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Here is another shit theory. What if we are looking at this all wrong. Nika and Nami are not related to the Zanes. What if Summer was a Zane. Specifically, daughter to Katie Zane.

Nika met Summer's parents, who called him trash. Nika would remember Katie, just as much as he recognised Elsa. Katie would also still probably think he was trash. Katie being present while Summer is still gone would imply Summer is dead though.

Nika also remembers (or thinks he does) his mother reading to him. So, chances are he'll recognise someone's voice or there will be dialogue about how comforting the voice is if his mother isn't dead and he's been lied to.

 

[Adhdclassic]

What do you mean "we are"? I never thought Nika and Nami are related to the Zanes. They're Cyrus. Okay, Nami isn't a Cyrus anymore because of reasons. But I for myself never was in that Zane theory.

It is a figure of wording not a full collective. As far as the names today it Cyrus tomorrow it Davis. Pace we are going we will never know.

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

Basically everybody says Nika and Nami are related.

Just because some people say they are doesn't make them it. I think they were both just orphaned at the same time (game logic) they grew up and grew close to each other. Have a brother/sister like bond but also, more than that.

The brother/sister bond for orphans. If you were an orphan and grew close to another boy/girl, they would be your what, brother/sister, right? you both get adopted by the same person/people, you guys won't stop the brotherly/sisterly bond.

Well, more like "naughty, sister/brother" bond lol

This game at the beginning had intended incest. Why when all the previous versions came out the patch came out at the same time

I mean, if I was desperate for these characters to be related, and if I could make a patch? best believe it'll be out with whatever version is out lol. When people want something and want it bad, they on it.

Steam doesn't have this restrictions. You can put incest on Steam as much as you want as long as all characters are legal age and it happens in consent. But Steam has other restrictions like not linking to crowdfunding in the game, or even mention the platforms to it.

Well, they should make up their dumb ass minds. So many games from back then that link to this/that, I don't want to hear their lame excuses. Makes me not want to risk buying shit on there anymore... can't download shit from here cause of the shady downloads now... I can quit cold turkey, right? nothing wrong with quitting....

 

[MagicMan753]

I mean, if I was desperate for these characters to be related, and if I could make a patch? best believe it'll be out with whatever version is out lol. When people want something and want it bad, they on it.

Yes people will make the patch because they want it, but if that is the case where is the lewdpatcher patch(most would say the official patch). If the person who made that patch specifically is in this community why hasn't that came out yet and someone else had to make there own patch, because it probably was one particular dev who made the patch himself.

 

[Dessolos]

until there is a Story reason i'm always gonna assume they are related. The game just feels much better when they are to me.

 

[Tremonia]

Well, they should make up their dumb ass minds. So many games from back then that link to this/that, I don't want to hear their lame excuses.

Well, I've never saw a gane on Steam with links to Patreon or even mentioning it. Sure, everyone knows who the devs are thanking in the credits when they're thanking their "supporters", but that's it. So what's there to make up their mind? Or do you mean the devs? Well, for them it's easy: don't give a shit about the incest crowd or just be not on Patreon.

can't download shit from here cause of the shady downloads now.

I can literally hear the whining from the devs about the situation.

people will make the patch because they want it, but if that is the case where is the lewdpatcher patch

You know there's a patch out for this special kink, don't you? It's even linked in OP.

it probably was one particular dev who made the patch himself.

No, it wasn't. This dumb ipatch just wasn't updated from that guy.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

There is a possibility that MC and Nami are the children of William and Leia. So incest fans might have a reason to go crazy

Incest fans can believe whatever they want, but there's no such possibility. Half of the Lis might end up being William's daughters. Ayua is Zane and will probably be available at least for sexual interactions. Sasha, Vanessa and Zara are most likely Zanes. That's one of the reasons why most of them are incompatible for throuples.

until there is a Story reason i'm always gonna assume they are related.

They're related. Just not blood-related.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Incest fans can believe whatever they want, but there's no such possibility. Half of the Lis might end up being William's daughters. Ayua is Zane and will probably be available at least for sexual interactions. Sasha, Vanessa and Zara are most likely Zanes. That's one of the reasons why most of them are incompatible for throuples.

They're related. Just not blood-related.

Vanessa and Zara are most likely Katarinas daughters. I could be wrong don't hold me to it. coming by the description of the mother being a Tennis goddess plus her temper reminds me of Kat. Sasha if I remember is a Petrova.

 

[AlexFXR]

Where?

Not here anyway! 13+

I do not understand what did you write. Do you mean that the movie Baise moi is rated 13+?

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Vanessa and Zara are most likely Katarinas daughters. I could be wrong don't hold me to it. coming by the description of the mother being a Tennis goddess plus her temper reminds me of Kat. Sasha if I remember is a Petrova.

Their mother is probably Donna Revera, not Katarina or Leia.
They're still most likely Zanes. The same is true for Sasha.
Because of that, Nika can't be Zane. But Nami might be.

 

[hermit_tr]

Their mother is probably Donna Revera, not Katarina or Leia.
They're still most likely Zanes. The same is true for Sasha.
Because of that, Nika can't be Zane. But Nami might be.

Sasha could be Zane if her father was Zane (Will or another Zane), because the name Petrova came from her mother (as far as I know, Elena Petrova is still single at WiAB, and that is her maiden name). Most likely Elina is a single mother.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Doesn't matter who their mother is.
She's probably Donna Revera, not Katarina or Leia.
They're still most likely Zanes. The same is true for Sasha.
Because of that, Nika can't be Zane. But Nami might be.

For Nick to be their father AND for Zara and Vanessa to be Zane, Leia, Katie or Helen (or Kat, seeing she's a cousin, even if the Zane gene is Dylan's ie Helen has likely married into the Zane name) would need to be the mother. The only way for Donna to be their mother AND to be Zane is for Nick not to be their father.

Mila knows Zara even if she doesn't know Vanessa, but Mila doesn't know who is Revera, only that someone on the first team is a Revera, so Donna's unlikely to be their mother - Zara isn't on the first team, as is evident by her looking at the trophies and the way Stahl and Hill wonder if they can disguise her as a guy to put her on their team.

Also, any of the potential LI's in WiaB that can get pregnant won't automatically be romanced by every player - that means that Willi isn't guaranteed to be the father of any of the characters, other than what Ocean decided has to be canon (which we don't know). The LI's will still have children whether or not they're romanced - ie. There will always be a Revera on the first team, there will always be Sasha, and there will always be Ayua, even if the player does a path in WiaB where Willi blueballs himself.

Sasha could be Zane if her father was Zane (Will or another Zane), because the name Petrova came from her mother (as far as I know, Elena Petrova is still single at WiAB, and that is her maiden name). Most likely Elina is a single mother.

Or, Elena keeps her maiden name as a famous professional, as is quite common, or is divorced and both she and Sasha go by her maiden name.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

For Nick to be their father AND for Zara and Vanessa to be Zane, Leia, Katie or Helen (or Kat, seeing she's a cousin, even if the Zane gene is Dylan's ie Helen has likely married into the Zane name) would need to be the mother. The only way for Donna to be their mother AND to be Zane is for Nick not to be their father.

Yeap. I didn't take poor Nick into account, so I edited the post. Too late.
But yeah, I'm leaning towards the theory that Nick isn't their biological father.
Otherwise, their mother is Leia or Katarina. Obviously not Helen or Katie.

I'm guessing Donna is Zara and Vanessa's mother only because of how similar they look.

Also, any of the potential LI's in WiaB that can get pregnant won't automatically be romanced by every player - that means that Willi isn't guaranteed to be the father of any of the characters, other than what Ocean decided has to be canon (which we don't know). The LI's will still have children whether or not they're romanced - ie. There will always be a Revera on the first team, there will always be Sasha, and there will always be Ayua, even if the player does a path in WiaB where Willi blueballs himself.

I know that. But even the not-guaranteed Zanes exclude the possibility of Nika being Zane.

Spoiler: Especially for those who want Ayua as a LI.

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My reason against Donna is that Mila would know Zara was one of the three clans that run ZPR. Mila's not friends with Sasha, but knows she's part of the elite, she knows Ayua, and from what we've seen the children of the three families seem to get along - so my guess is that someone other than Donna was Nick's wife. She doesn't even have to be a significant player (yet) in WiaB - she could be one of Leia's club turned gold digger after she got impregnated by Willi.

You just gave me back hope that Zara and Vanessa are Leia and William's daughters.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Yeap. I didn't take poor Nick into account, so I edited the post. Too late.
But yeah, I'm leaning towards the theory that Nick isn't their biological father.
Otherwise, their mother is Leia or Katarina. Obviously not Helen or Katie.

I'm guessing Donna is Zara and Vanessa's mother only because of how similar they look.

My reason against Donna is that Mila would know Zara was one of the three clans that run ZPR. Mila's not friends with Sasha, but knows she's part of the elite, she knows Ayua, and from what we've seen the children of the three families seem to get along - so my guess is that someone other than Donna was Nick's wife. She doesn't even have to be a significant player (yet) in WiaB - she could be one of Leia's club turned gold digger after she got impregnated by Willi.

Ocean's kept the cards very close to his chest regarding these revelations, and I think he enjoys keeping us guessing.

 

[RNasc4444]

Not really good, especially for the people who bought these games on Steam that had the options to "define the relas or name each character" only for those same games to end up with "landlandies and roommates"? people bought a certain version, not that shit.

They should offer refunds because people are getting played. I guess I should be glad that I don't care for the "incest" in this game. I'll stay with Nika/Nami being adopted, in my mind. If people want to play with them being bro and sis, go at it.

You can play them as transexuals who identify as refrigerators for all I care, that's not the issue. The issue here is and always has been the simple fact that the game makes absolutely 0 sense if the MC and Nami aren't related by blood. Simple as that. I've stated this dozens of times. If Ocean intends for them not to be related then sooner or later S1 will need an entire script overhaul.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

The issue here is and always has been the simple fact that the game makes absolutely 0 sense if the MC and Nami aren't related by blood. Simple as that. I've stated this dozens of times. If Ocean intends for them not to be related then sooner or later S1 will need an entire script overhaul.

And at least me and Bob stated the opposite. Nika and Nami's relationship makes sense if they're not related by blood. There's 0 sense only if they call each other roommates. That's my personal opinion and that's why the i-patch is needed. We've discussed this dozens of times already. But maybe we missed some important detail. Can you point out why this is a simple fact?