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And of course slight change what you copied from personalitys and narrative points.
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I'm curious how the girls interact if you keep doing things that make their relationship status go up, especially the older characters and those who have good relationships, etc.
Thank you for your reply. A bit rude, because you're missing the context a bit, but thank you all the same.
It's presumptuous to believe that I'm using the "fan-made" excuse to make money even with over 3500 renders created as a simple hobbyist and novice.
And I don't understand why the look would make it even worse. I bought the right to use these 3D assets in the same way as Oceans and it was not at all complicated to recreate the same faces. I even changed some details like hair colors and more. My MC even has scars.
Did you know that the figure used for Nami is also in the visual novel Love Season?!
I realize that I should have simply stopped at “share it” instead of adding “and even sell it”.
On the other hand, for personalities, it is on this point where I agree and which posed a moral problem for me, even if I strongly doubt that this is enough to be taken to court since they have nothing iconic. Even Sonic or Mario, much more iconic personnalities, have fan-made ones.
Brief. I am scrupulous enough to know that your message alone is enough to make me forget about the possibility of being able to sell it. I simply wanted to be exhaustive in my approach to get fair feedback.
Let's forget about selling it and just stick to the idea of sharing it.
I'm waiting to have a little more opinion before knowing if I should put all this in the "trash".
Thank
Hello !
I will detail what I copied and what I changed.
Nika's name is Madison (yes, a girl's name storyline's reasons).
Same haircut but blonde faded to black and he has scars on his face.
He is cold, depressed and suffers from loneliness because he lost his twin sister in the past "because of him". They were both street racers and one evening, when she couldn't race in her own car, she borrowed Madison's but, for storyline reasons, the car was traped and he was the one who was normally targeted.
Nami's name is Maeby and she was Madison's twin sister's best friend.
Same hair but ginger auburn gradient and no angel wing earring. Hip and buttock much narrower.
She and Madison suffered from the same loss of a loved one but she knew how to keep her energy, her positivity, her madness.
At no time does she use the word "Yo!", no allusion to "rolls" and she does nothing in particular with her arms.
There are only the two of them left (no Nojiko side character like) and they face entering university together.
Bella's name is Dakota.
Same haircut but black gradient blonde color.
She was Madison's twin sister so a relatively absent character although the background plot suggests that perhaps she is not dead as we believed?!!
This is what i have. The rest of my story, content and character is original.
The thing is, they are NOT and never have been "roomies" by any (non-game) definition of the word. They're either adopted or foster children (probably the latter).
"Roomies" is presumably only mentioned because it's AVN code for a certain other relationship dynamic. There is no other reason for Nami to say it, unless she's willfully choosing to hide her status as a foster or adopted child (which I don't buy, because such reticence isn't explained or made clear in the game).
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I agree with foster children or wards, and I understand the obvious logic even with those terms. Such a position is clear, concise and definitely implies no relationship beyond circumstantial living arrangements.
If I grew up with a housemate who was my best friend, what would I use as a single noun to describe our relationship that wasn't cringey? Anthing I choose would sound lame. Most of our reason for disliking the term 'roomies' is it isn't a term anyone would use in any real situation, at best I've heard people say housemate or flatmate. Mostly I hear people saying "we just live together" or "we share a house". They don't even share a room. It breaks the fourth wall as an inserted word external to the game universe, and enforces a patreon friendly approach to avoid misunderstanding. But Nami knows shit all about patreon. There's no need to define their relationship if they're unrelated.
In such a situation, I'd be like "Woah dude, we live in the same house and grew up together. Don't make it weird." It still avoids the issue of what they are defined as, but it's something I'd actually say if flustered. It also then reflects Noji's idea that they have a weird relationship. Something like that would strengthen the plot rather than break immersion, while keeping the logic as it currently is (undefined).
The majority of people have undefined relationships with each other if you think about it; in real life we mostly let people introduce themselves and take that on face value. The only thing it reveals is that they have a intimacy/synergy that makes it obvious to people observing them that they are really really close knit, closer than just living under the same roof regardless of a defined relation.
I'm also looking at the term in isolation, as it specifically breaks immersion. When Zara says "I expected asians" that feels like a more natural conversation - they get sitetracked intomeeting Vanessa rather than explaining their life story in the foyer.
As far as fan made goes, clearly stating it's fanfiction and sharing it without seeking financial game does keep it as fan art. That should be fine. *Should be*. Keep in mind that as fan fiction, you'll be doubly judged - not just for the content you've developed, but for your inspiration - you'll be continually compared to something that get's criticised here in quite a polarised way. Are you comfortable with that criticism?
By the way, your description doesn't sound like you've copied much, you've just been heavily inspired by the type of story. and the look of the story. Nika is not a street racer, yours is. Bella and Nika are unrelated, Yours are. Nami and Bella are not friends, yours are. GOing to university is not something unusual. Starting from there, I can't see how there would be much parallel, and would suggest it's not fan fiction, just that you've been inspired to write a VN and you liked the looks.
Also, you've already done it, why would you trash it? If it brings you pleasure to do it, you can keep doing it for yourself in private regardless of anyone else. That is already a sufficent outcome.
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I think that Mc never met Summer's parents.
the only information we had about it , is Elsa mentioning that her mother thinks Mc is trash and that Summer was blind by love and she will end up living on a trailer park if she keeps hanging out with Mc.
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Nope, Nika mentions they said it direct to his face when you take Vic for a walk:
d "Normal is what made Summer's parents resent me."
scene ae850 with dssa
v "Don't take it personally."
scene ae849 with dssa
d "They told me to my face that I was nothing but shit."
scene ae852 with dssa
v "They obvi-"
scene ae851 with dssa
d "I know Vic. I know that I'm not shit... I know that they were the trash."
stop music fadeout 3.0
d "But still, I would've made peace with that trash for Summer."
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i never saw that , because i'd always avoid Vic and Mila as much as i cant , (i wish you can avoid going to Vic's house and stay in Nick's house getting to know Zara and Vanessa more)
Vic and Mila are easily the most boring characters in the game so far , followed very close by Maja.
Find them in real life. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
Sorry, I puked in my mouth. The names are already enough for me to puke. Thanks but no.
Take care now, bye bye then.
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if they gave the kids to Nojiko to keeps them safe , why she made the stupid mistake of living in the same city?
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Even if I'm not interested in a character, I've learned with Ocean it's often worth doing a play through of each path, as different info is revealed on each. For example, if you don't say you make a great team with Bella, you get a different locker room scene, and that leads to a flashback later in the game. So many dialogues are mutually exclusive and can't bee seen on one playthrough, so to get a full overview, multiple plays are needed.
Maja is only boring because we have no interaction with her in any meaningful way. I'm sure she will be more interesting as a coach.
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I noticed Nika asked Nami how long Nojiko was going to the book club she says ever since we got here. Which means they didn't always live there, we know they went to tropic high school. Where were they before?
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I meant Blood related should have put that in. I agree on your sibling statement.
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since they take the bus to get to the College, the implication would be they went to their local highschool; Nia does as well and went to the same high school.
A number of us have been inspired by Ocean and his characters/storytelling.
For example, he's posted renders that are not canon (on Patreon and SS) and I've posted a 'what if' scenario here using those renders and telling a 'scene' - in my case with Amber, Bella and including the MC as someone who is with them but not in the 4 renders he provided.
This was a share only here on this thread with never a mention of trying to make money from it.
MANY of us have written about scenes we see coming later in SG (I'll use myself and the upcoming MC/Amber cabin visit as an example), based on the current plots - it is something we do to pass the time while we wait for the next release of SG.
We are invested in this AVN, these characters and the intricate story Ocean is telling across not just SG but also WIAB - which impacts/will impact SG.
You got far more motivated to write/create than I did, creating a story with thousands of renders and, in your words, preserving at least some of the unique interactions of three of SG's main characters as the central pillar of your story.
If you genuinely want to share it but don't want to risk negative fallout from the creator of SG - Ocean, then I recommend reaching out to him directly.
Ask him yourself and see what his reaction is, then decide whether to continue to create this story for your own use or to share it as fan art.
Another option is to take the skills you have built and decide to write your own AVN, leaving the shadows of another's creation to walk a path your own.
This new story would be one you could put on Patreon/SS and sell, as well as sharing it on F95.
This is your creativity given inspiration - and if you enjoy the act of creating, there is nothing to stop you from creating other journeys.
Whatever you choose - GLHF!
Cheers!!
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Maja tells Nika if he misses one shot she will tie him to the chair and give him 20 lashes. He misses 20.
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This is one of the causes why i want them to be related, like brother-sister or at least stepbro-stepsis relation. I look to the blonde reporter and the warning of one of the basket players, i think one of the best opportunities for this reporter to have a big news about Nika is a posible video or photo about them making out in the bathroom or something worse (better for me) like a blowjob os whatever, something usual in univeristy bathrooms btw...
So if they are not related no one will probably give a fuck about that news but if they are related... Carefull. That´s why i want them to be related because Ocean will provide us with many problems and dangerous sitations due to their relationship, i think this was one of the intention of Regium and Ocean himself, more drama for the plot. If they are not related like now the plot pretends this scenarios won´t be logical
and i really think Nami-Nika relationship will have important problems in the story.
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Wow, in your country porn is shown on central television during the day and children can watch it? I didn’t know there was a country without censorship on television.