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There's one more thing, though. I'm now in contact with the German rating agency USK. If I had gotten the official rating, I could've sold SG in Germany. It does cost a minimum of 1300€ (in my case 1800€), but I think it's worth it.
It would've been amazing if I could've released it in Germany last month, but, well, you learn things.
This means I will now get back to the German translation, and I hope to have it out in Germany by the end of the month.
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Previews
Today, I have a few Noji focused previews... I just felt her today. I wanted to show some really great Zara renders buuuut... I don't want to show too many previews at once.
Zara's next time. (If she brings home an A)
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I'm a bit puzzled by Noji's scenes. I love how she looks at the MC, but I hope it's not just my dirty imagination running wild.
Really curious to see if we'll get a good explanation for her, um, flashing moments. It's such a weird contrast to her usually prude character. Maybe she just had a bit too much to drink ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
Poor Nick :KEK: (I think that's his name)

And a bonus preview:
When you're on edge 24/7, and he touches your hand.
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Oh boy, with this Bella image, Ocean has really opened Pandora's box... I can already hear the meme factories cranking up :HideThePain:

Taxes, taxes, and even more taxes.
There's a lot of tax talk coming now. If you don't care about it, you can click away. The Dev log will end here for you.
Thanks for your support and time to read until this point.

I think it's important to be somewhat transparent about what's happening behind the scenes, especially regarding the support you guys give me and the planned upgrades.

In the last log, I mentioned that I'd be waiting with the workstation until I know how much pre-tax I'd have to pay...
Less than a week ago, I got an email from my tax office with this information. In the mail were 17 PDFs, all of which had a "Checked" in front of them.
So, my tax offices reviewed them, and they were fine.

When I opened the PDF, it told me how much income and business tax I have to pay every three and two months.
And when I saw the number, I was like... Well, I guess I'll be developing the games from prison soon.
It turns out that there was a typo in it that inflated one of the numbers to something in the late five digits. That was a good scare.
Income tax and business tax are paid separately.

Anyways, what they want from me is still way too much. They're using my 2023 numbers + growth to calculate my pre-tax.
And... There's something I had in 2023 that I don't have anymore... So, due to an unfortunate event, support is down by ~35% compared to 2023.
The amount they want now, if broken down to a monthly base, is 80% of my pre-tax income.
Which is obviously insane. I'm deliberately not adding Steam/Epic/GOG, as I have no numbers of which to go to.
It will still take until July when I see the first payment from Steam. Almost all of it will also go to taxes.
Why?
Because my tax office declares my VAT/UST every month, the government has my 2023 numbers.
Usually, I would have to pay the 2023 taxes in 2025. But because they already saw a rough estimation of my numbers, I have to pay three different bills.
1. The taxes for 2022. Those were calculated in.
2. They raised my pre-tax for 2023 by A LOT, and I have to pay it all at once.
3. The insane 2024 pre-tax on top of the upper two.

That's where all the Steam money is going.
It would've been okay if it had been spaced over a year or so, but not all at once. This ruins my upgrade plans.
And while we asked for the 2024 pre-tax to be lowered with proof that something happened that justifies it, it doesn't mean the government will accept it. They could just say no.

Maybe the Steam or Epic Summer sale will bring in a little extra, which I can dedicate to the workstation fund. Then there's also still WIAB's Steam release in Q4.

I also have to contact Late Kids, Youth 83, The Intangible, and some other artists for Season 2, which is going to cost me a lot again... But it takes priority over the workstation.

So, I will be honest and say I most likely won't be able to get a new workstation this year. It's just not in the cards. The Summer sale or WiAB's Steam release could always surprise us, but I can't rely on it.
I'd say we're just set back by a year in terms of PC upgrades. It's kinda meh, considering that I can set up more renders than it can render overnight, but it's still a good boy.

And yes, I'm thinking about leaving Germany. I actually have a call scheduled for tomorrow with a tax office in a different country. If I can use said "law," I will seriously consider moving in 2025. Unfortunately, thanks to my apartment lease, I'm still stuck in Germany until mid-2025.

It's not great, and I hate that more or less every penny I earn goes somewhere into the expenses, but I'm so incredibly motivated.
Workwise, it's still going to be a great year.

Take care, and thanks a lot for the support!
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Ugh, taxes... can't even escape them on a porno site...

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AlexFXR

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This is the weirdest developer log I've ever seen. Usually in such magazines they talk about the game, its possible development, and also tell what has been done. But instead we are told about taxes that no one cares about, everyone pays taxes, not just Ocean. The same can be said about the eternal whining about new video cards.

I know some would like a render count or a percentage, but I'm sorry, I'll keep it to myself for a while.
Of course, everyone is interested in this, SG has been in development for 2.5 months, and there is no information on the game.
 

bombo

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i want to ask you guys, in your opinion, if 1 chapter takes at least 5-6 months, how long it will take for this game to be completed?
i hope for a serious answer, not a sarcastic one if you may, please
 

BobTheDuck

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i want to ask you guys, in your opinion, if 1 chapter takes at least 5-6 months, how long it will take for this game to be completed?
i hope for a serious answer, not a sarcastic one if you may, please
Honestly, with no sarcasm, it'll be years. Think of it as a comic. How many years has it taken for Xmen to be completed? A different comparison would be The Sandman. The story had a definite arc, rather than being open ended, but it took a while.

Ocean originally had 32 chapters planned, of which we've seen 5. Since the rework removed everything developed in the first year and a half, it's been 3.5 years for 5 chapters of the current content.

Ocean's changed the way he's listing the chapters so now it will be 60 chapters as he won't call half chapters that any more.

The caveats are, he has to start getting output continuous enough for steam players to maintain interest - this will hopefully mean more reliable release schedules. But that will take a while to smooth out.

If you're curious about the story, just be prepared to have other hobbies in your life while you wait.
 

PuroBogotà

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i want to ask you guys, in your opinion, if 1 chapter takes at least 5-6 months, how long it will take for this game to be completed?
i hope for a serious answer, not a sarcastic one if you may, please
I seriously doubt next chapter will take "only" six months.
It's very unlikely this game will ever be completed.
 
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Penfold Mole

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i want to ask you guys, in your opinion, if 1 chapter takes at least 5-6 months, how long it will take for this game to be completed?
i hope for a serious answer, not a sarcastic one if you may, please
I doubt there has ever been anyone denying that completion of this game will take years and years.

The difference is in attitude. While there are people being negative and pessimistic about the fact, saying that the game will never be completed, they will die before it happens and so on, I and many others are saying "Yay!! This is great! This game development will take years or decades to finish, I'll have new chapters of the story to wait for and read for years and years to come. There'll always be an update to play, maybe 'til the day I die!" :cool:(y)

And when this one gets completed one day, Oceans has new stories already cooking!

In fact, I kind of hate story endings because however good they are, the ending always sucks. Because after this there is no story any more. Nothing to wait for, nothing to read or watch.
I've developed a habit of avoiding the endings of the stories I like the most over the years. I think I watched the last episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer about 2 years or something after the episode aired. Off the VHS recording (kids these days don't even know what that is :HideThePain:). The same with the Angel series of the same Whedon Universe, the ending of the 5th season that many don't even know exists.
Battlestar Galactica, the "new" series. Same thing. Although this one has one of the best endings of any stories that I know of.
Oh, and The Game of Thrones series. The story was pretty great before it rushed ahead of the books. And it wasn't too bad after. But the ending... I wish I didn't watch.

I haven't played the last updates of several games on F95 tagged as "Completed", avoiding the ending. Mostly because the endings are rarely any good and never better than the progress, the way there. I'm afraid of the level of the ultimate disappointment seeing these endings :HideThePain:
 
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Cabin Fever

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i want to ask you guys, in your opinion, if 1 chapter takes at least 5-6 months, how long it will take for this game to be completed?
i hope for a serious answer, not a sarcastic one if you may, please
Good luck getting a real answer. There's no guarantee if development will slow down further or speed up faster. Any serious answers are pure speculation at best. Heck, even Ocean himself can't tell you how long it will take for this game to be completed.

But seriously, why does it matter anyways? So what if it takes too long or worse, becomes abandoned? Yes, it would be unfortunate, but the world goes on. There's no guarantee that Ocean wouldn't be hit by a bus and dies with the game unfinished. Or for that matter, there's no guarantee that you wouldn't be hit by a bus and die the day before Ocean finishes the game.

Just enjoy the game for what it is. If you let the long development cycle bother you, the negative Nancys & trolls win. Do you really want that?
 

yossa999

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i want to ask you guys, in your opinion, if 1 chapter takes at least 5-6 months, how long it will take for this game to be completed?
i hope for a serious answer, not a sarcastic one if you may, please
Just stop. I mean stop right now. Run away from this game as quickly as possible. Remember, most of those who praise this game are already completely addicted and cannot quit; even replacement therapy with the most naughty porn does not help them.

I've been hooked on this shit for a long time and I need more and more doses updates, but the dealer developer is in no hurry to deliver it. 95% of other games I try don't hook me at all and I quit after a couple of minutes. Now they all seem like boring and worthless crap to me.

If you are just starting to feel addiction, you can fight it with the help of support groups in this thread. They hold their meetings here almost every day, where they conduct auto-training and self-hypnosis, repeating to each other how much they don’t like this game, how it was better in the good old days, how Ocean ruined everything and how they shouldn’t waste their time on a game that will never be finished. I don’t know if this therapy helps, some of them have been participating in these groups for several years, coming here every day to their meetings.

But it’s better not to let it come to this, so there’s only one piece of advice - run. A whole world of dirty kinky harem porn games lies outside of this thread, don't waste your boner here!
 

Maviarab

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Good luck getting a real answer. There's no guarantee if development will slow down further or speed up faster. Any serious answers are pure speculation at best. Heck, even Ocean himself can't tell you how long it will take for this game to be completed.

But seriously, why does it matter anyways? So what if it takes too long or worse, becomes abandoned? Yes, it would be unfortunate, but the world goes on. There's no guarantee that Ocean wouldn't be hit by a bus and dies with the game unfinished. Or for that matter, there's no guarantee that you wouldn't be hit by a bus and die the day before Ocean finishes the game.

Just enjoy the game for what it is. If you let the long development cycle bother you, the negative Nancys & trolls win. Do you really want that?
What a refreshingly sensible post. :)
 

Darkdevil66

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But seriously, why does it matter anyways? So what if it takes too long or worse, becomes abandoned? Yes, it would be unfortunate, but the world goes on. There's no guarantee that Ocean wouldn't be hit by a bus and dies with the game unfinished. Or for that matter, there's no guarantee that you wouldn't be hit by a bus and die the day before Ocean finishes the game.
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Cabin Fever

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What a refreshingly sensible post. :)
Ok so now that I've had lunch and liquored up, let me return us to our regularly scheduled programming. What I was trying to say is, how silly is it to ask the people with absolutely no insider info to predict the future? Or for that matter, how cringey is it to be a negative Nancy (or I forgot last time, edge-lord wannabes) & trolls to make an issue of the long dev cycle? :p
 

Kakasan

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i want to ask you guys, in your opinion, if 1 chapter takes at least 5-6 months, how long it will take for this game to be completed?
i hope for a serious answer, not a sarcastic one if you may, please
Hey partner, I thought there would be 2 chapters this year :ROFLMAO:, However, since the last DEV-LOG came out, I think the beta chapter will only come out
 
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bombo

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Honestly, with no sarcasm, it'll be years. Think of it as a comic. How many years has it taken for Xmen to be completed? A different comparison would be The Sandman. The story had a definite arc, rather than being open ended, but it took a while.

Ocean originally had 32 chapters planned, of which we've seen 5. Since the rework removed everything developed in the first year and a half, it's been 3.5 years for 5 chapters of the current content.

Ocean's changed the way he's listing the chapters so now it will be 60 chapters as he won't call half chapters that any more.

The caveats are, he has to start getting output continuous enough for steam players to maintain interest - this will hopefully mean more reliable release schedules. But that will take a while to smooth out.

If you're curious about the story, just be prepared to have other hobbies in your life while you wait.
i couldn't ask for a better answer to understand the whole thing
i really appreciate it, thank you for your kindness
 
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bombo

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thanks a lot for everyone who took from their time to reply to me
and sorry if my question was kinda dumb or inappropriate
i just normally prefer to play a game when it is completed to get the whole thing at once and to be attached, i feel when it's too long between updates or if it takes years to complete the game i lose my interest quickly
but this is so different from any other game that i played before, such a unique story with gorgeous renders, it just hooked me so much that i wished if we could have the full game instantly
thank you again
 
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