Funny sarcasm. Considering the wave of nonsense of your people in all the nooks and crannies where they interfered with other projects, as if they were somehow better. I have never been against snobbery when it is confirmed by facts. But the funny thing is, you guys have nothing to try to elitize on other projects of *your* level, and even more so compare yourself to badik. Only success matters, and you don’t have it. You won’t have it. So stop comparing yourself to badik until the statistics come together. Your developer is no different from other second-rate devs.
WTF? Did I miss something or is this indeed just a word-salad?
"Your people" / "You guys" / "Your developer"
Who do you think frequents this thread? - the MOGA (Make Ocean Great Again) movement or something? Pro tip - you'll have better luck chasing down Emmanuel Goldstein if you really need a boogeyman...
BobTheDuck and I worked on an alignment chart for most of the characters. After long posts containing detailed analysis (mostly from Bob) and curses (mostly from me), this is what we got:
William is the most interesting and difficult case.
Before, my list of the worst people among the main characters in both games consisted of five names. William was second right after his sister and Nika was fifth. But I'm currently playing SG for the second time (still didn't finish ch.5) and recalling the events in WiAB. And well... I was so wrong about both of them.
"Willi has thrown Leia's world into chaos, but he is not a chaotic character. It is his difference from Leia's memories of him that is causing her dissonance. Willi is quite logical about Donna/Jessy. He's quite logical and manipulative with Katie, getting the info from her about Kat's professor. His immaturity is a mask he hides behind, and Miru also uses that same mask. Evil? He's definitely got a lot of selfish attitudes, and is trying to be better, but I'd say lawful neutral. He runs to Wollust knowing it will hurt him, because he's worried about Helen, for nothing he did. He cries regularly about what he's done. He sees the consequences and he sees the choices to redeem himself. When Leia asks him to seduce Monica he refuses because he thinks he was an asshole to her and he doesn't want to be further. We can choose to give Katie the sweet burger etc. He was the only one who used his brains to notice the spiders were not native. So not chaotic, but rational in a lot of his decisions and thinking. He might be closest to a true neutral character, with a strong tendency toward evil/selfishness that he's trying to redeem."
William is a jerk, but that's about it. He's a nice guy who is struggling with his past. Unlike Bella and Nika, he actually sees his mistakes and tries to be a better person. So good for him.
I feel sorry for him because WiAB strikes me as a story not about healing or redemption, but quite the opposite.
As for Nika. His case clearly shows how difficult it is sometimes to judge a character who is the protagonist of a story. On my second playthrough, he completely fell in my eyes and ended up at the very bottom next to Leia. For those who don't understand why, I suggest trying to take an unbiased look at what he does during the first season.
I've touched on this topic before when discussing the consequences, but at the time it was mostly about Bella. Nika is more awful and dangerous than her.
So, overall
1. Leia
2. Nika
3. Bella
4. Vanessa (a high probability that she'll move up to third place)
5. William (only because he's a jerk)
After Bella and Nika draw on each other, at the end of that class, Stephanie is acting nervous, and Nika talks to her. She then mentions why the police didn't visit Nika about Vic. The last screen I posted is after Nika leaves.
Is this guy Jazz supposed to be one of the ZPR college basketball players of the 1st team? Or is he one of the coaches?
He looks older than the ages of coach Hill and coach Stahl combined or 10 years older than I am.
It amazes me that people buy into this cheap sentimental nonsense.
Nika is the last person worth listening to when it comes to who is a baddie and who isn't.
I feel so bad for Mila. She has to listen to this hypocritical bullshit from the man who has the audacity to judge her and defend the person with whom he caused her so much trouble behind her back.
I feel so bad for Mila. She has to listen to this hypocritical bullshit from the man who has the audacity to judge her and defend the person with whom he caused her so much trouble behind her back.
It amazes me that people buy into this cheap sentimental nonsense.
Nika is the last person worth listening to when it comes to who is a baddie and who isn't.
I feel so bad for Mila. She has to listen to this hypocritical bullshit from the man who has the audacity to judge her and defend the person with whom he caused her so much trouble behind her back.
It amazes me how people behave as if theirs is the most correct opinion. I just wanted to express my opinion with that render. Because I can see in Bella's behaviour that she's not a bad person. Before she provoked Rosolvo, she made us feel that she didn't want to do it anyway by saying "im sorry" in a whisper and she regretted it very much after she did it. a pure evil person would never have such regrets. that was just an example.
Bella's not an evil person, she just feels the need to look evil. Because she is afraid of being bullied again if she is seen as a weak person. It's her defence mechanism.
I repeat again that these are my personal thoughts.
I feel so bad for Mila. She has to listen to this hypocritical bullshit from the man who has the audacity to judge her and defend the person with whom he caused her so much trouble behind her back.
If I understood your idea correctly, a manipulator whose ideas cause so many problems is not necessarily a bad person.
I have a feeling that Bella route is the main one and sometimes the consequences of any actions are extremely unpredictable. Therefore, I see no reason to judge him for Mila’s problems.
It amazes me how people behave as if theirs is the most correct opinion. I just wanted to express my opinion with that render. Because I can see in Bella's behaviour that she's not a bad person. Before she provoked Rosolvo, she made us feel that she didn't want to do it anyway by saying "im sorry" in a whisper and she regretted it very much after she did it. a pure evil person would never have such regrets. that was just an example.
Bella's not an evil person, she just feels the need to look evil. Because she is afraid of being bullied again if she is seen as a weak person. It's her defence mechanism.
I repeat again that these are my personal thoughts.
I apologize for being too harsh in my reply. I got carried away.
But it is what it is. This response from Nika is cheap sentimental nonsense.
I'm suprised that people often refer to it, portraying it as something positive.
I have no idea why you're defending Bella. Their conversation revolves around her, but the problem is Nika.
This moment is the most disgusting example of his manipulations. The second one I would call his manipulation of Bella, when he forces her to join his plan.
This conversation triggers me not because Mila's problems were caused by his actions. After all, he might skip the heist. But because he has the nerve to get into an argument with her about Bella, despite...
He knows that Bella's/their actions have gotten Mila into trouble.
He knows that Mila doesn't know about it.
Still, he judges Mila for allegedly treating Bella too harshly.
He refuses to hear her arguments - examples of Bella bullying other people.
His last words "she's not a bad person, far from it" sound particularly bad and hypocritical here.
I understand when people mention Bella's regrets in the restroom scene or that Nika advises her to redeem herself if he's on her path. They both still don't see how terrible their plan regarding Vanessa is, but it's still progress.
But the only thing this conversation shows is that Nika manipulates and pushes Mila to his side, hiding from her his and Bella's involvement in her problem.
It's possible that Nika is sincere here.
But the moment itself strikes as not sincere at all.
And I'm not sure if it's done intentionally or not.
For me who watched the show carefully enough this comparison looks especially funny. Given that Walter is basically the woman from the first picture. Just in the body of a 50 year oldman moron suffering from an inflated ego the size of Jupiter.
So I'm not even sure who's shown in the best light here, Vanessa or Leia.
There's no such thing as "look evil". If someone is being a cunt to me I don't give a fuck why they are doing it. Besides regardless of her regret she thought it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do to destroy that woman for the sole reason of someone she doesn't like trying to fuck her mom.
There's no such thing as "look evil". If someone is being a cunt to me I don't give a fuck why they are doing it. Besides regardless of her regret she thought it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do to destroy that woman for the sole reason of someone she doesn't like trying to fuck her mom.
There's no such thing as "look evil". If someone is being a cunt to me I don't give a fuck why they are doing it. Besides regardless of her regret she thought it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do to destroy that woman for the sole reason of someone she doesn't like trying to fuck her mom.
This concept exists even in medicine. Protective reaction of the psyche after suffering stress.
Moreover, during the game they show you why she doesn’t want her mother to date this particular man and his family. You could also see the evolution of this idea as new information and characters related to their family appear.
But alas, you won’t see this because you focus on the first impression and do not try to understand why the person behaves this way.
Personally, I think that such people are very kind and strong if they are pulled out of the hole. Therefore, for me, there are no other characters for romance here.
In my opinion, it's the opposite.
I find Marla to be potentially a much more interesting LI than Ayua.
It amazes me that people buy into this cheap sentimental nonsense.
Nika is the last person worth listening to when it comes to who is a baddie and who isn't.
I feel so bad for Mila. She has to listen to this hypocritical bullshit from the man who has the audacity to judge her and defend the person with whom he caused her so much trouble behind her back.
They caused Mila trouble but it wasnt really their fault, its not like they planted false evidence pointing at Mila. They are to blame to be thieves but they didnt wronged Mila. The holgerson's are the ones who used Mila unrelated as a scapegoat.
And Mila is the one behaving shitty in the Mila/Bella relationship and aknowledges it herself (she was young and afraid, it happens but it was still her fault).
She joined the bullying against bella and broke her trust in a time when Bella had nobody and nowadays has the audacity to talk shit about her just because Bella doesnt want to reconcile and sometimes jokes about Mila being poor.
Mila said herself that Bella didnt really do anything to her yet she felt the need to potray her as a psycho in the beginning despite knowing about Bella's backstory.
Bella is - similar to your assesment of William - a jerk at times but shes blunt and upfront while Mila was the one behaving like a snake just because she felt rejected.
And i dont think Nika is hypocritical either, he's a bit "stupid" at times with his wannabe mindgames but i dont think he considers himself as a particulary "good guy" who does nothing bad, he just doesnt give a fuck.
And Ayua (and kinda very other LI and sidechick) >>>> Ms. Marla
I noticed that when Robin calls Bella to free Nika from the handcuffs, she tells Sasha that Nika didn't deserve it and she replies ''Maybe he does''. So I installed Scrappy Mod to unlock all the scenes and it turned out that when Robin calls Miss Marla she answers just ''Maybe'' instead. I don't know if it's just a mod's work or if it also happens in the original version, but are there any theories about it? Or is it treated as an unimportant detail? Typically, these types of details are the spark of various theories.
It's the same without mods (depending if your on the bella path or not) and it seems like the logical conclusion is that Sasha thinks worse of Nika if he's close to Bella. Im not sure why, it didnt looked like there being bad blood between bella and sasha but maybe Sasha just got annoyed when Bella was at the bookclub a few times
