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[Krytax123]

Well, I didn't look at the situation this way, so I have to agree with you on that. Mila isn't a saint either, though she's definitely not bad.

And yet I can't help but think how disingenuous this moment, specifically what he said about Bella, feels. But most people see it differently "how sweet, he's telling her Bella isn't a bad person, I knew it".

Despite the fact that he and Bella have caused her these problems and that she is unaware of their involvement. Like I said, Nika is the last person worth listening to when it comes to who is bad and who isn't.

Yes, they refer to Bella's past, but nevertheless he's talking about Bella in the present time when they're both involved in the scheme against the Holgersons.

Nika himself seems unsure of his words. He doesn't say it confidently, but rather with doubt. Like he's remembering what he and Bella have been doing in the last few days. So he's still trying to be sincere here and he actually cares.

Now, it may seem like I hate this moment, but that's not true. I just look at it from a different perspective. It adds more layers to Nika who I find to be a very complex mc.

I have more sympathy for William, but Nika seems more interesting to me.

I think youre focussing to much on good/bad, Nika didnt stated that Bella's a saint doing nothing wrong, he only said she isnt this bad and im pretty sure his intention is to get them closer over time (similar like with vic). Most of the SG character are neither good nor bad, most of them did shitty things in the past but i think all of them are developing.

Does it really make Bella a bad person to steal from the Holgersons? Its of course against the law but .. than all characters of wiab are bad persons or at least the whole zane family. I consider them all in some grey area.

And what do you expect Nika (or Bella) to do? Come clean about being thieves? Going to the police and destroying their own future? Thats just way too much considering the holgersons dont have any evidence against Mila and just using her as a scapegoat. An outcome which neither Nika or Bella intended and which - to be frank - wasnt possible to foresee because its so stupid.

Mila of course isnt bad either, shes just one more person who didnt did everything right in the past, i think this elevates the characters in SG. Not every girl is the perfect innocent virgin and not every guy is an small dicked asshole lol, They all have layers which makes them less boring and cardboard.

I still dont really get why you blame Nika and Bella for the Holgersons accusation of Mila. How should they have anticipated this bullshit? The holgersons are to blame for accusing a innocent person of theft, im pretty sure they know it wasnt Mila. And which judghe thinks it was her without evidene?

Marla is not striking in her appearance. But unlike Amber and Noji, she isn't inappropriately sexualized. Even after flashing her nipples in ch.4, she leaves the impression of a more mature character and I take her behavior more seriously than Amber and Noji. It makes her stand out from them. So no, she's no worse than Ayua and the other LIs. And she's probably not even in my top 8.

Though I think she'd be more suited as lewdable. Her romance with Nika might be interesting considering SG is presenting itself as a serious story. So I'd like to see a serious story about a teacher-student romance. But I just can't think of any good ending where they stay together. The same goes for Amber actually.

Haha im just really not a age-gap fan and i love ayua And Miss Marla addiotnaly is rather ugly and esp irritating with her behavior.

 

[Ray_D]

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Which stepbrother, after all nika is just nami's roommate.

 

[O1duvai]

And which judghe thinks it was her without evidene?

Bought. This idea runs through the entire section with the house.
I am more than sure that this idea of “anyone can be bought” regarding the characters of the Holgersons will carry over into the second season.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I am waiting for Vanessa to tell Mila she will help her for a favor.

 

[Krytax123]

Bought. This idea runs through the entire section with the house.
I am more than sure that this idea of “anyone can be bought” regarding the characters of the Holgersons will carry over into the second season.

Soooo .. the holgersons try to corrupt a judge or jury (!) and becoming criminals themself like that to make sure Mila is sentenced, who has no money to repay them anyway, for what?! Such a huge investment to make sure .. that a girl who his son bullied ends up in jail? Even when we say it would be possilbe and riskfree for holgerson, why would he invest that money to get a girl without money to repay anything in jail?

This is completly nonsensical, nobody would do that even without the massive risk involved lol

 

[BobTheDuck]

Soooo .. the holgersons try to corrupt a judge or jury (!) and becoming criminals themself like that to make sure Mila is sentenced, who has no money to repay them anyway, for what?! Such a huge investment to make sure .. that a girl who his son bullied ends up in jail? Even when we say it would be possilbe and riskfree for holgerson, why would he invest that money to get a girl without money to repay anything in jail?

This is completly nonsensical, nobody would do that even without the massive risk involved lol

Well, who imports exotic spiders and throws them into someone's bedroom to scare them? A hockey mask would be a cheaper way to say boo! The Oceanverse isn't following the laws of normal life, even if it appears to mostly align with it: Nika nd Bella's hair defying both wind and gravity and having their own propulsion are classic examples.

Going back to why someone would pay to corrupt a judge over something petty - this assumes Stephan doesn't already have a corrupt police officer (Wiab certainly suggests they're a dime a dozen) who can file charges. No judge required until sentencing. We know Nami had her own childhood friend police officer Jane on speed dial for the cabin incident, so it's not implausible that Stephan has Ceril ready to do anything in exchange for him getting her closer to Bella.

Why? Because they're richer than they purposes to spend money. The guy has astatue of golden underwear. He is clearly frivolous and wasteful. Why NOT fuck with Mila's life because the golden boy asks? Why not mess with her, then appear to drop charges, because that's the closest Setphan will ever get to feeling like a Chad. It kinda doesn't matter, because they've actually done it, filed fake charges against Mila without evidence. If they go ahead with it, it is simply through the hedonistic excitement of ruining someone's life. I mean why bully Mila anyway? People who are out of touch with reality and insulated by wealth live by different rules.

The other thing to remember is plot wise, there is at least one lawyer friendly to the Zane's (Dana) with another probably (Elena) unless Ocean has changed Elena's role in WiaB for the current version, both of them high profile, decimate their opponents type of lawyers. Stephan's probably got access to the same people the Zane's do, seeing Zoey and Katie dated (unless there's a falling out we don't yet know about). So it's not hard to imagine these rich people treating Mila's life like a more exciting tabletop episode. Vanessa's "And yet, I know so much about you... Miss Steiner." is not ominous AT ALL with the focus on her self satisfied smile. Mila is being plotted against, we just don't know why.

Finally, the level of wealth on display in SG beggars WiaB. The Zane's have a cute house, nothing special. The farm, nothing special. No one seems to have anything remotely as opulent/extravagent as they do in SG. Everything is overblown, deliberately.

I'm waiting for Nika's line "Shit. Gotta stop eating Gio's pizzas before going to sleep. Getting the most insane dreams where I'm a dirt poor edgelord missing an edge, and everyone is richer than me"

 

[O1duvai]

Soooo .. the holgersons try to corrupt a judge or jury (!) and becoming criminals themself like that to make sure Mila is sentenced, who has no money to repay them anyway, for what?! Such a huge investment to make sure .. that a girl who his son bullied ends up in jail? Even when we say it would be possilbe and riskfree for holgerson, why would he invest that money to get a girl without money to repay anything in jail?

This is completly nonsensical, nobody would do that even without the massive risk involved lol

You probably live in one of the countries where this seems like something out of the ordinary. I, on the contrary, where it doesn’t surprise anyone and it’s a matter of price to buy anyone, including a judge and a verdict. I think we just let it pass through our reality.
They calmly bribe the police who, despite the complete lack of evidence, accuse an absolutely third party. Why stop there if you are a rich man in gold panties with a god complex?

And from one of the scenes it was obvious that these clowns didn’t need money from Mila. Of which there are already a carload of them.

In addition, this indirectly works on the second plot, the stigmatization of certain professions, shown in the example of Mila’s mother and Nia

 

[Krytax123]

Well, who imports exotic spiders and throws them into someone's bedroom to scare them? A hockey mask would be a cheaper way to say boo! The Oceanverse isn't following the laws of normal life, even if it appears to mostly align with it: Nika nd Bella's hair defying both wind and gravity and having their own propulsion are classic examples.

Going back to why someone would pay to corrupt a judge over something petty - this assumes Stephan doesn't already have a corrupt police officer (Wiab certainly suggests they're a dime a dozen) who can file charges. No judge required until sentencing. We know Nami had her own childhood friend police officer Jane on speed dial for the cabin incident, so it's not implausible that Stephan has Ceril ready to do anything in exchange for him getting her closer to Bella.

Fair argument about the spiders but at least thats gang/mafia stuff and rivals and not a super rich family bullying a poor young girl without reason (that we know of). Mila even defended the holgerson son towards Nika in the beginning which makes a huge grudge or really bad blood from him seem unlikely.

And yeah of course, a corrupt police officer is possible, but influencing a judge or jury for something which doesnt makes any sense and is just petty? I dont think they intend to go through with it and kinda just want to mindfuck mila.

Why? Because they're richer than they purposes to spend money. The guy has astatue of golden underwear. He is clearly frivolous and wasteful. Why NOT fuck with Mila's life because the golden boy asks? Why not mess with her, then appear to drop charges, because that's the closest Setphan will ever get to feeling like a Chad. It kinda doesn't matter, because they've actually done it, filed fake charges against Mila without evidence. If they go ahead with it, it is simply through the hedonistic excitement of ruining someone's life. I mean why bully Mila anyway? People who are out of touch with reality and insulated by wealth live by different rules.

The other thing to remember is plot wise, there is at least one lawyer friendly to the Zane's (Dana) with another probably (Elena) unless Ocean has changed Elena's role in WiaB for the current version, both of them high profile, decimate their opponents type of lawyers. Stephan's probably got access to the same people the Zane's do, seeing Zoey and Katie dated (unless there's a falling out we don't yet know about). So it's not hard to imagine these rich people treating Mila's life like a more exciting tabletop episode. Vanessa's "And yet, I know so much about you... Miss Steiner." is not ominous AT ALL with the focus on her self satisfied smile. Mila is being plotted against, we just don't know why.

I still cant see stephan holgerson doing these actions out of pettyness which isnt even his own but his sons. Im not convinced yet that he is comic relief evil yet, maybe his son lied to him tho.

Im like 100% sure that Dana wouldnt take this case (rich family without any evidence against poor young student) and doubt it about Elena either. These are high profile lawyers who wont take a case without evidence which is obviosuly made up. Pretty sure its against their morality and is way too unimportant of a case anyway.

Maybe they own similar clubs like leia or zoey has the porn studio and the want to push mila to work there? I dunno, nothing of this makes much sense to me yet.

Finally, the level of wealth on display in SG beggars WiaB. The Zane's have a cute house, nothing special. The farm, nothing special. No one seems to have anything remotely as opulent/extravagent as they do in SG. Everything is overblown, deliberately.

I'm waiting for Nika's line "Shit. Gotta stop eating Gio's pizzas before going to sleep. Getting the most insane dreams where I'm a dirt poor edgelord missing an edge, and everyone is richer than me"

Yooooo, did you saw Leia's "house"?

 

[wizardcock]

What does Nick do for a living? He's got a huge house, drives a koenigsegg

 

[Acsuka]

What does Nick do for a living? He's got a huge house, drives a koenigsegg

It's not clear yet... I think he's a mobster, but he's definitely involved in crime... I hope I'm not wrong...

 

[yossa999]

What does Nick do for a living? He's got a huge house, drives a koenigsegg

Well, his last name is Benz...

 

[BenMeiffert]

What does Nick do for a living? He's got a huge house, drives a koenigsegg

he's had a good insurance and they pay him a lot after his bike accident !

For Amber, she has a really good house for a psychologist... and with a material girl like Bella (2 very expensive cars and all the items she has in her room...) What job did her ex-husband could have ? or maybe they also got a good insurance from Bella's sis accident too... I would not want being an insurer in that world !
Noji is a talented doctor but struggles so much financially to take care of Nami and Nika, those guys must have had some legacies from their parents that might help to do something else than feed the mice or buy rolls. Surely the same kind of legacy with Vic and Maja, but they don't have an adult who help them and they still have the house.
So many orphans versus so many extremely rich people...

 

[wizardcock]

It's not clear yet... I think he's a mobster, but he's definitely involved in crime... I hope I'm not wrong...

cooperates with William

he's had a good insurance and they pay him a lot after his bike accident !

For Amber, she has a really good house for a psychologist... and with a material girl like Bella (2 very expensive cars and all the items she has in her room...) What job did her ex-husband could have ? or maybe they also got a good insurance from Bella's sis accident too... I would not want being an insurer in that world !
Noji is a talented doctor but struggles so much financially to take care of Nami and Nika, those guys must have had some legacies from their parents that might help to do something else than feed the mice or buy rolls. Surely the same kind of legacy with Vic and Maja, but they don't have an adult who help them and they still have the house.
So many orphans versus so many extremely rich people...

really a lot of question regarding the financial part..... But how Nami and Nika live with Nojiko's salary is basically realistic.
Amber's sister is a school nurse, but Amber lives in a mansion, her daughter spends tens of thousands of dollars on clothes. Strange. But probably really money left over from the husband, maybe he died in the accident where and Bella's sister got a vegetative state

 

[BobTheDuck]

Fair argument about the spiders but at least thats gang/mafia stuff and rivals and not a super rich family bullying a poor young girl without reason (that we know of). Mila even defended the holgerson son towards Nika in the beginning which makes a huge grudge or really bad blood from him seem unlikely.

And yeah of course, a corrupt police officer is possible, but influencing a judge or jury for something which doesnt makes any sense and is just petty? I dont think they intend to go through with it and kinda just want to mindfuck mila.



I still cant see stephan holgerson doing these actions out of pettyness which isnt even his own but his sons. Im not convinced yet that he is comic relief evil yet, maybe his son lied to him tho.

Im like 100% sure that Dana wouldnt take this case (rich family without any evidence against poor young student) and doubt it about Elena either. These are high profile lawyers who wont take a case without evidence which is obviosuly made up. Pretty sure its against their morality and is way too unimportant of a case anyway.

Maybe they own similar clubs like leia or zoey has the porn studio and the want to push mila to work there? I dunno, nothing of this makes much sense to me yet.



Yooooo, did you saw Leia's "house"?

I mean, I agree with what you're saying in the normal world - but Vanessa's dialogue in

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renders shows that Vanessa knows something about what's going on, which is funny because if Nika couldn't have met Vanessa because they're in different social circles... well Mila is also not part of Vanessa's world. Vanessa's making a dominant/threatening point to Mila, right at the moment Mila's world has collapsed. The point I'm making here is there is something unknown going on in Mila's life that Vanessa is using for leverage, or she's telling Mila she's not actually escaped anything, frying pan to fire. Not really so neighbourly or normal. This is one of the baselines to measure what level of danger Mila is in. Either Mario is confiding in Vanessa about the charges (plausible) or there's been something going on that we don't know of. This makes it seem much larger than charging Mila as a scapegoat.

So with that as a reference, going through your other points:
- We know nothing about Mila and Mario's interactions from Mario's side. We also don't know of any history between the families in Wollust. Is Stefan getting at Mila to hurt her mom? Anything is possible with a reveal.

- Mila's defence of Mario could be to distract Nika from doing something really stupid (which we know doesn't work in the end), knowing that the threats of what would happen if Nika touched any of them are serious.

- We have no judge or jury yet, only charges, with no set court date. I would imagine it'll be used for leverage, even if just social leverage (Oh that Stefan, he's so swell, he let that poor thief off the hook and droped charges, what a swell guy! etc)

- I'm also not suggesting he is comic relief. Definitely manipulative. The cat is evil comic relief ...unless Stefan turns out to be a werecat and SG turns into From Dusk TO Dawn part 2.

- Dana is already potentially compromised in WiaB if you consider the dialgoue between her and Mon. And Elena was already taking cases for the (more) corrupt sides in WiaB but maybe that has changed. But it's unlikely to go that far, as I do consider it a form of social engineering Stefan wants to grandstand on. But if it was to go to court, I don't think he'd care about the money if it was to further his personal principles, or use it to hurt someone else. Who knows? He might have a lawyer on retainer, it's pretty likely.

- The pimp thing? If you consider how Vanessa eye bangs Mila just before those screen shots, I'd say it's likely and they'll offer for her charges to be dropped in return for being some kind of waitress at Leia's club - maybe Stefan owes Leia a favour. Ocean seems big on the favours being traded.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I mean, I agree with what you're saying in the normal world - but Vanessa's dialogue in

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renders shows that Vanessa knows something about what's going on, which is funny because if Nika couldn't have met Vanessa because they're in different social circles... well Mila is also not part of Vanessa's world. Vanessa's making a dominant/threatening point to Mila, right at the moment Mila's world has collapsed. The point I'm making here is there is something unknown going on in Mila's life that Vanessa is using for leverage, or she's telling Mila she's not actually escaped anything, frying pan to fire. Not really so neighbourly or normal. This is one of the baselines to measure what level of danger Mila is in. Either Mario is confiding in Vanessa about the charges (plausible) or there's been something going on that we don't know of. This makes it seem much larger than charging Mila as a scapegoat.

So with that as a reference, going through your other points:
- We know nothing about Mila and Mario's interactions from Mario's side. We also don't know of any history between the families in Wollust. Is Stefan getting at Mila to hurt her mom? Anything is possible with a reveal.

- Mila's defence of Mario could be to distract Nika from doing something really stupid (which we know doesn't work in the end), knowing that the threats of what would happen if Nika touched any of them are serious.

- We have no judge or jury yet, only charges, with no set court date. I would imagine it'll be used for leverage, even if just social leverage (Oh that Stefan, he's so swell, he let that poor thief off the hook and droped charges, what a swell guy! etc)

- I'm also not suggesting he is comic relief. Definitely manipulative. The cat is evil comic relief ...unless Stefan turns out to be a werecat and SG turns into From Dusk TO Dawn part 2.

- Dana is already potentially compromised in WiaB if you consider the dialgoue between her and Mon. And Elena was already taking cases for the (more) corrupt sides in WiaB but maybe that has changed. But it's unlikely to go that far, as I do consider it a form of social engineering Stefan wants to grandstand on. But if it was to go to court, I don't think he'd care about the money if it was to further his personal principles, or use it to hurt someone else. Who knows? He might have a lawyer on retainer, it's pretty likely.

- The pimp thing? If you consider how Vanessa eye bangs Mila just before those screen shots, I'd say it's likely and they'll offer for her charges to be dropped in return for being some kind of waitress at Leia's club - maybe Stefan owes Leia a favour. Ocean seems big on the favours being traded.

I think it might be jealousy I could be wrong. Vanessas man had interest in Mila. Probably talked to Vanessa alot about her and Vanessa is jealous cause unlike her. Milas sex appeal is natural without having to manipulate and boost herself up. Plus if you notice Milas reaction to being touched by Vanessa was not the reaction Vanessa was use to getting. She seemed kinda repulsed like bitch why you touching me. She was like Nika not impressed.

 

[Acsuka]

cooperates with William

 

[mostwanted8]

I was kind of pissed when the gun was loaded with blanks

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[Rocky the Hardplace]

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I fixed that last scene for you...




(actually I don't hate Marla, but I don't like her and sure am not attracted to her. I just wanted to shoot someone and , so far, Bella has not been an option)

 

[rjmm]

Robin's too good to be a side character. Wish we could interact with her more during the main story.

 

[John Ness]

Robin's too good to be a side character. Wish we could interact with her more during the main story.

Сouldn't agree more. She's a rare breed of woman - perfect wife material,