VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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These earrings are very specific and pointed out again and again, these were 100% Leia's earrings and are the same...

Maybe not, Sedila had the same earrings in old WIAB.

 

[BobTheDuck]

"... it's plausible that Nami's parents were killed in a situation that Leia feels personally guilty for. "

that comment i can get behind, because it leaves A LOT of openings as to why. she could have gotten them killed via car accident, or arguing with emile or w/e his name is and he accidently killed them via car accident, etc.
i totally forgot about the red head in WiaB...
imma have to do a run-thru again i think.

i just figured Occam's razor, it was random act of kindness from X.
It MAY have started a chain reaction after the fact; like Noji recognized them and made some calls... [good or bad]
IF Noji is related to Miru that would add further credence to those who believe it's a symbol of Zane protection, as Noji may have taken them in to snub the Zanes, or... maybe she really was the best friend of [MC or Nami's] Mom.
Daphne could be mommy for 1 or both of them...
Noji would then not be related to Miru, unless it shows Miru's family meeting her in later episodes of WiaB...

regardless we need more Daphne. and Nami, and Nia, and Vic, ok i'll stop now.

We've also got to remember, Nami at 8 years old getting an earring is maybe 10 years after the events of WiaB. So the idea that there's a direct connection to events in WiaB isn't inherently true: by doing things this way, Ocean avoids there being a canon way to play WiaB to force the conditions for Nika and Nami. In this way, I am suspicious of Willi being Nika's dad as it forces a canon relationship on Willi a year after WiaB starts (WiaB +~1 year, +9 months pregnancy, +18 years to college and legal lewd acts). Nami on the otherhand IS a pregnancy that would happen at the end of WiaB as she's a year older. If the year's intake is all the same age, Bella, Sasha, Ayua, Vic are all conceived roughly a year after WiaB, Maja was already alive. Vanessa is older than Zara, maybe she was conceived during WiaB?

This is of course assuming Ocean's planned the timelines correctly, he can always say SG starts 19 years after WiaB or whatever, it's never stated in SG, because it's an external game fact.

If Noji is related to Miru, it would be interesting to see Ayua's reactions to her when she was drawing Nami. Regardless of Noji's relation to the Zane's we know Noji is friends or is known by many of the main characters via the bookclub, and her relationship with Scarlet at the hospital, being in emergency and potentially being the person dealing with the Frohn car accident and the Cyrus car accident is a thing. Remember that Nika and Nami were 3 and 4 respectively when they lost their parents, it wasn't Noji snatching them from the maternity ward.

 

[imzahai]

We've also got to remember, .... that Nika and Nami were 3 and 4 respectively when they lost their parents, it wasn't Noji snatching them from the maternity ward.

and that they were told they are brother and sister [in canon] BUT that doesn't mean they are biologically related.
doesn't matter in the end as they have grown up as siblings.
i do look forward to the story being told.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Nami on the otherhand IS a pregnancy that would happen at the end of WiaB as she's a year older. If the year's intake is all the same age, Bella, Sasha, Ayua, Vic are all conceived roughly a year after WiaB, Maja was already alive. Vanessa is older than Zara, maybe she was conceived during WiaB?

Regarding who might be related to the Zanes.

Vanessa, Zara, Nami and Sasha are the main candidates. For all we know, they're the least compatible with the other girls and aren't compatible with each other.

But I'm surprised that I've never seen anyone have a suspicion about Mila. She isn't compatible with the three of them. Zara and Sasha don't have possible throuples. Meanwhile, Bella/Nami is possible (Bella's clearly not Zane), but for some reason Mila/Nami is not.

The last one may mean nothing, but if it turns out that Vanessa/Mila is not possible either, I think it's very likely that all five of them are related to the Zanes.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Regarding who might be related to the Zanes.

Vanessa, Zara, Nami and Sasha are the main candidates. For all we know, they're the least compatible with the other girls and aren't compatible with each other.

But I'm surprised that I've never seen anyone have a suspicion about Mila. She isn't compatible with the three of them. Zara and Sasha don't have possible throuples. Meanwhile, Bella/Nami is possible (Bella's clearly not Zane), but for some reason Mila/Nami is not.

The last one may mean nothing, but if it turns out that Vanessa/Mila is not possible either, I think it's very likely that all five of them are related to the Zanes.

I think if I remember rightly, that's because Mila isn't into sharing, she's more traditional in her passions. It's got nothing to do with anything other than she's not into polygamy. We've already seen that she was uncomfortable with what happened with the 4 way kiss, so it's likely she'll have her guard up to avoid similar things in the future.

Something I'm interested in is that only Nami and Vanessa and the guys on the first team (and Adrianna) have the chance to be caused by a creampie in WiaB. The others in SG are too young, so that are after the canon of the story, they're from events that happen in between, unless they all took gap years. And there's likely to be at least 10 months if not more between children of the same mother.

 

[minibaer12]

I think if I remember rightly, that's because Mila isn't into sharing, she's more traditional in her passions. It's got nothing to do with anything other than she's not into polygamy. We've already seen that she was uncomfortable with what happened with the 4 way kiss, so it's likely she'll have her guard up to avoid similar things in the future.

Let's see how things turn out when you mess around with Bella AND Mila.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

I think if I remember rightly, that's because Mila isn't into sharing, she's more traditional in her passions. It's got nothing to do with anything other than she's not into polygamy. We've already seen that she was uncomfortable with what happened with the 4 way kiss, so it's likely she'll have her guard up to avoid similar things in the future.

For me, the 4 way kiss and the thing with Bella say the opposite.
As you said when we were doing the alignment chart, Mila is the paladin walking on thin ice.

Something I'm interested in is that only Nami and Vanessa and the guys on the first team (and Adrianna) have the chance to be caused by a creampie in WiaB. The others in SG are too young, so that are after the canon of the story, they're from events that happen in between, unless they all took gap years. And there's likely to be at least 10 months if not more between children of the same mother.

Yes, I thought about that too. Then I suspect the family connection between the characters will be revealed in the vaguest possible way. (and our discussions here are essentially irrelevant )


The more I think about throuples the more I want Vanessa/Bella.
Or, if Melanie Сeril turns out to be the LI, Melanie/Bella.
That would be insane.

Nika and Me:

 

[Den1mo]

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this is probably the best thing I've seen here so far

 

[BobTheDuck]

Let's see how things turn out when you mess around with Bella AND Mila.

For me, the 4 way kiss and the thing with Bella say the opposite.
As you said when we were doing the alignment chart, Mila is the paladin walking on thin ice.
Yes, I thought about that too. Then I suspect the family connection between the characters will be revealed in the vaguest possible way. (and our discussions here are essentially irrelevant )


The more I think about throuples the more I want Vanessa/Bella.
Or, if Melanie Сeril turns out to be the LI, Melanie/Bella.
That would be insane.

Nika and Me:
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Living dangerously could be the chapter title if that happens - I'd imagine they tie him up, and blue ball him mercilessly

 

[Maviarab]

Living dangerously could be the chapter title if that happens - I'd imagine they tie him up, and blue ball him mercilessly

Well that would be difficult given current circumstances

 

[RNasc4444]

Why would Willi and Miru hide Nika, when they declare Ayua a Zane? Also, Summer wouldn't even be in the situation unsupervised dating Nika while Willi and Leia thought Nika was trash, and Elsa's mum (who would be Leia's other sister???) making comments about Summer ending up fat drinking beer in a trailer park also reject these two ideas. We gotta remember that SUmmer and Nika were dating and hanging out in the way teeanagers do with, the parents knowing where Summer was when she visited Nami, and for long enough for the parents to call Nika trash while not doing anything. If Willi was both their dads, it'd be over in a heart beat, Summer would disappear before it was a thing, game over.

Elsa's mum being Summer's mum's sister means that she is none of the characters we know from WiaB yet. The only sisters we know are Zane's in WiaB. Elsa is not Katie's daughter. Elsa's surname (seeing she's not married) suggests no tie to the Zanes - most logical assumption is Summer's mum is someone currently unknown.

Willi and Miru do want to breed, and Ocean gives us plenty of opportunities so far. Having said that, Ayua is in the same classes as Nika and Nami, so likely the same age, unless like Nami, she's been held back a year. Miru can't have two children a couple of months apart, Nika would need to be at least 9 months older or younger, and that only if Miru is such a sex fiend (well, true) and WIlli shoots and scores every time (hence basketball genes). But it still makes it pretty implausible for Miru to be Nika's mom, on top of the fact that AYua is raised as a Zane and Nika isn't.

Last one? I see no issue why not. Do we know if Daphne's last name is Cyrus? The only connection between Nami and the Zane's is the earring though. It wasn't left by Leia at the hospital when Nami was born, but seemingly by chance, when Nami was along on a random day out. I still favour the idea that the Zanes are responsible for Nika and Nami being orphans and the earring is a mark to show they're under Zane protection. It could just as plausibly be Nika = Daphne+Willi, Nami = Daphne + Mr Cyrus.

Given the ages, none of the sproglings are a result of creampies that occur in WiaB's game, if WiaB occurs 20 years before.

Also, unless a bunch had gap years, Nami is the oldest in the class.

Jesus Christ Bob...okay!

Admittedly I'm not nearly as engaged as some of you are in this story. And like I've said before I don't even see a point in theorycrafting or speculating given that Ocean will change his mind on the story and the connections between characters 873 more times before the games are done. And it's extra hard to start building a theory when your foundations can be solid as dirt today, as quicksand tomorrow and water the day after. Catch my drift?

I'm just here to stir the pot. I'll leave y'all to cook

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well that would be difficult given current circumstances

I guess that means Ocean can really draw it out I'll show myself the door now...

Jesus Christ Bob...okay!

Admittedly I'm not nearly as engaged as some of you are in this story. And like I've said before I don't even see a point in theorycrafting or speculating given that Ocean will change his mind on the story and the connections between characters 873 more times before the games are done. And it's extra hard to start building a theory when your foundations can be solid as dirt today, as quicksand tomorrow and water the day after. Catch my drift?

I'm just here to stir the pot. I'll leave y'all to cook

Totally. I'm just here cooking up theories until Ocean gives us those substantial renders. Maja better have the most is all I can say!

 

[Maviarab]

Totally. I'm just here cooking up theories until Ocean gives us those substantial renders. Maja better have the most is all I can say!

I think Maja is the only thing we ALL unequivocally agree on rofl.

 

[RNasc4444]

I think Maja is the only thing we ALL unequivocally agree on rofl.

I gotta stop falling in love with these side characters. It's become a problem now in multiple games

 

[Maviarab]

I gotta stop falling in love with these side characters. It's become a problem now in multiple games

Oh I hear that Nasc....

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

I think Maja is the only thing we ALL unequivocally agree on rofl.

Well, I'm not. I don't get why so many people like her.

I think Robin is the only thing we ALL should agree on.

She actually stands out from the side girls and even LIs.

She reminds me of Nami and Nia, but there is something about her that makes her special.

She's more clumsy or something.

Maybe Bob will come up with a more accurate description of her.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well, I'm not. I don't get why so many people like her.

I think Robin is the only thing we ALL should agree on.

She actually stands out from the other side girls and even LIs.

She reminds me of Nami and Nia, but there is something about her that makes her special.

She's more clumsy or something.

Maybe Bob will come up with a more accurate description of her.

Seeing I've been challenged, I'll accept. I think Robin's charm is her lack of confidence. In the bookclub, she's pretty sure of herself (her appearance later, did she come from her room, is that Charlie's house? I'm thinking it's either than or the Petrova's place. It's ridiculously overkill setting for a bookclub... Noji clearly doesn't feel inimidated by everyone's apparent wealth... Anyway, off track), but maybe that due to being in familiar surroundings. At the college, she's polite, but she doesn't put herself forward. My guess is the gym sequence was for Sasha's benefit, and Robin got to ask her own questions as well. When people think of her poorly, she freaks out, so I kinda feel she has a low self esteem.

I think the attraction is we want to protect her. She gets bullied by Zara and Nadja into decietful acts, she gets harrassed with rumours for caring that Nika almost had a melt down, and she tries to make up for her mistakes, without expecting a free pass.

Also, she has more normal proportions, she doesn't always look like she stepped out of a magazine, when she's at the gym, she looks ready to put in the work. So I think it's also she seems a little less pretentious than some of the others - not always trying to make herself look the best.

And we probably want to rescue her from Bowser ...I mean Charlie

 

[Adhdclassic]

Seeing I've been challenged, I'll accept. I think Robin's charm is her lack of confidence. In the bookclub, she's pretty sure of herself (her appearance later, did she come from her room, is that Charlie's house? I'm thinking it's either than or the Petrova's place. It's ridiculously overkill setting for a bookclub... Noji clearly doesn't feel inimidated by everyone's apparent wealth... Anyway, off track), but maybe that due to being in familiar surroundings. At the college, she's polite, but she doesn't put herself forward. My guess is the gym sequence was for Sasha's benefit, and Robin got to ask her own questions as well. When people think of her poorly, she freaks out, so I kinda feel she has a low self esteem.

I think the attraction is we want to protect her. She gets bullied by Zara and Nadja into decietful acts, she gets harrassed with rumours for caring that Nika almost had a melt down, and she tries to make up for her mistakes, without expecting a free pass.

Also, she has more normal proportions, she doesn't always look like she stepped out of a magazine, when she's at the gym, she looks ready to put in the work. So I think it's also she seems a little less pretentious than some of the others - not always trying to make herself look the best.

And we probably want to rescue her from Bowser ...I mean Charlie

I like Robin but I still feel she has something to do with the reporters getting pictures. The question is how did the reporter know both of them would be there at that moment where they are already setup to take a pic. Second what kinda school you can just walk out in the middle of class and go outside to have a personal conversation. I believe the reporters like Zara and Nadia they have something on her.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I like Robin but I still feel she has something to do with the reporters getting pictures. The question is how did the reporter know both of them would be there at that moment where they are already setup to take a pic. Second what kinda school you can just walk out in the middle of class and go outside to have a personal conversation. I believe the reporters like Zara and Nadia they have something on her.

Most universities and colleges allow you to manage your own attendance. If you enroll, it's up to you to get the value for your money and time. If you know enough to pass the assessments without attending great. If you can get recognition of prior learning/credits for experience in the field, there's no need to attend the lectures. People are adult enough to work out what's going on by this age, mostly. The only caveat is if it dirupts someone else's learning. Then you'd be speaking with the head of the specific school of study.

The reporter saw Nika was wearing his sport uniform, and knows the first team as she's had run ins with them. It would be very simple for her to wait around the gym if she saw them heading to the locker rooms.

 

[mostwanted8]

she doesn't always look like she stepped out of a magazine, when she's at the gym, she looks ready to put in the work.

Robin's sports attire screams FUCK ME

She's clueless how hot she is yet so effortlessly... Growing up surrounded by rich girls who stole the limelight has done a number on her self-esteem.... she will be taught selflove