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Maybe this has already been discussed but it says nami changed directly after the summer incident. Which means whichever mean girl she was before is probably underneath. Im guessing if you pursued someone like nia or maybe even mila she would probably revert back to that person...Its interesting but im really curious what direction it goes in with that since its referenced quite a few times on and off her path.

I feel like she did it to protect herself but that kinda personality would throw anybody off from the outside looking in.
 

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Maybe this has already been discussed but it says nami changed directly after the summer incident. Which means whichever mean girl she was before is probably underneath. Im guessing if you pursued someone like nia or maybe even mila she would probably revert back to that person...Its interesting but im really curious what direction it goes in with that since its referenced quite a few times on and off her path.

I feel like she did it to protect herself but that kinda personality would throw anybody off from the outside looking in.
Nami was never, in any version I played (and I play SG since its first release), in any scene I saw "mean".
 

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Nami was never, in any version I played (and I play SG since its first release), in any scene I saw "mean".
Not during game events, but it is hinted that Nami was not as she is now, Nia I think calls her mean when you go to her place. I don't think that Nami is secretly a yandere killing every female that interecs with Nika, but she is no saint and is said to have a much darker side
 

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nami changed directly after the summer incident.
If we accept the thesis that the incident in the cabin was a violent incident, but to me it looks like she started a personal vendetta against Nika because Summer left her for him only when Summer disappeared, I suspect that she treated him very badly then, which led to Nika started having attacks of aggression, which eventually led to a violent incident. Then she felt guilty and convinced that it was because of her that she had changed. Summer disappeared when Nami was 14, bad Nami was at 15, 16, Nami as we know her is 17, 18 and 19
 

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Ocean has confirmed that the next episode will deliver an average of 5000 renders, right? That's a great number but we all know that it will take more than 1 year, in fact I predict 1.5 years. But he has already lost a lot of time due to rework and now he needs at least 1 more year. I don't think subscribers are going to like it, it seems like bad planning.
 

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Ocean has confirmed that the next episode will deliver an average of 5000 renders, right? That's a great number but we all know that it will take more than 1 year, in fact I predict 1.5 years. But he has already lost a lot of time due to rework and now he needs at least 1 more year. I don't think subscribers are going to like it, it seems like bad planning.
Most likely ... Next up on the schedule is the 4th Chapter of WiAB.
There is a lot of work for one developer to finish.
 

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Ocean has confirmed that the next episode will deliver an average of 5000 renders, right? That's a great number but we all know that it will take more than 1 year, in fact I predict 1.5 years. But he has already lost a lot of time due to rework and now he needs at least 1 more year. I don't think subscribers are going to like it, it seems like bad planning.
Ocean said he makes about 1,000 renders a month. If he doesn’t take a vacation for 8-10 months, he’ll do it before the new year without any problems.
 

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Nami was never, in any version I played (and I play SG since its first release), in any scene I saw "mean".
Its more of the darker side nika references to not only her but to nia. Nia said she thought nami was mean in highschool and nika confirmed it. He even said he wouldnt speak to nami again if she was being the person she was back then when you are on her path.
 
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If we accept the thesis that the incident in the cabin was a violent incident, but to me it looks like she started a personal vendetta against Nika because Summer left her for him only when Summer disappeared, I suspect that she treated him very badly then, which led to Nika started having attacks of aggression, which eventually led to a violent incident. Then she felt guilty and convinced that it was because of her that she had changed. Summer disappeared when Nami was 14, bad Nami was at 15, 16, Nami as we know her is 17, 18 and 19
Yeah i see it as a coping mechanism for her. Im curious to how bad she was because I believe she always had a crush on nika given how she reacted to the summer incident. I know she lost her friend to him but I feel like that possessiveness she has, has always been there.
 
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Yeah i see it as a coping mechanism for her. Im curious to how bad she was because I believe she always had a crush on nika given how she reacted to the summer incident. I know she lost her friend to him but I feel like that possessiveness she has, has always been there.
Yeah I wonder if we'll get flashbacks of this evil version of Nami during the next session with Amber. and I also have to admit that when I first saw this memory with the eraser and Nami's reaction, my first thought was that she was more jealous of Nika than of Summer. Nami had to experience all this for at least 3 years and her 'bad period' could have been, as you write, getting it out of her system, quoting Nadia and Zara. Turning into a bad kid after losing contact with someone close is generally a theme in the Oceanverse so far, so far we know that it happened to Nika, Nami, Leia and Bella and I won't be surprised that if Summer shows up one day, it will also turn out that she had a period in which she turned into Winter or is even still in it
 
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Yeah I wonder if we'll get flashbacks of this evil version of Nami during the next session with Amber. and I also have to admit that when I first saw this memory with the eraser and Nami's reaction, my first thought was that she was more jealous of Nika than of Summer. Nami had to experience all this for at least 3 years and her 'bad period' could have been, as you write, getting it out of her system, quoting Nadia and Zara. Turning into a bad kid after losing contact with someone close is generally a theme in the Oceanverse so far, so far we know that it happened to Nika, Nami, Leia and Bella and I won't be surprised that if Summer shows up one day, it will also turn out that she had a period in which she turned into Winter or is even still in it
Yeah I feel like it mostly comes from feeling like summer betrayed her even though nami's feeling for nika werent clear but to anyone but her. Its like he told amber summer and nami started to resent each other shortly after summer started pursuing him. I can see her trying to play games and control people so she couldnt be hurt like that again. But it probably killed her inside the whole time they were together and maybe even resented summer for leaving him in the state he was in even though it obviously wasnt her fault he ended up so broken from it.

The unclear part if if summer is even gone like you said. The memory just cuts off at the cabin everytime.
 
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If we accept the thesis that the incident in the cabin was a violent incident, but to me it looks like she started a personal vendetta against Nika because Summer left her for him only when Summer disappeared, I suspect that she treated him very badly then, which led to Nika started having attacks of aggression, which eventually led to a violent incident. Then she felt guilty and convinced that it was because of her that she had changed. Summer disappeared when Nami was 14, bad Nami was at 15, 16, Nami as we know her is 17, 18 and 19
I disagree, i dont think its anything like that.

I think its 100% obvious that Nami was jealous of Summer taking Nika away from her and not the other way around. She was simply heartbroken and jealous and both are aware of that. Even Amber immediatly figueres it out after hearing about it for 2 seconds.

And i dont think that Nami treated Nika badly, i think its more of a case of her being an bully/asshole towards literally everyone else.
 
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Yeah i see it as a coping mechanism for her. Im curious to how bad she was because I believe she always had a crush on nika given how she reacted to the summer incident. I know she lost her friend to him but I feel like that possessiveness she has, has always been there.
Yeah I wonder if we'll get flashbacks of this evil version of Nami during the next session with Amber. and I also have to admit that when I first saw this memory with the eraser and Nami's reaction, my first thought was that she was more jealous of Nika than of Summer. Nami had to experience all this for at least 3 years and her 'bad period' could have been, as you write, getting it out of her system, quoting Nadia and Zara. Turning into a bad kid after losing contact with someone close is generally a theme in the Oceanverse so far, so far we know that it happened to Nika, Nami, Leia and Bella and I won't be surprised that if Summer shows up one day, it will also turn out that she had a period in which she turned into Winter or is even still in it
I disagree, i dont think its anything like that.

I think its 100% obvious that Nami was jealous of Summer taking Nika away from her and not the other way around. She was simply heartbroken and jealous and both are aware of that. Even Amber immediatly figueres it out after hearing about it for 2 seconds.

And i dont think that Nami treated Nika badly, i think its more of a case of her being an bully/asshole towards literally everyone else.
If you look at Nami mimicing Summer's hairstyle now and when she was younger, my guess is that once Summer kissed Nika, Nami felt excluded and tried to emulate Summer. Nami is hard to read, but my guess is that, like in her talk with NIka about Noji and he excluding her, she feels like a third wheel, left out and uninvolved. Her attempts to mimic people and be vivacious are her coping mechanisms. In the coffee flashback, Nami tries to outdo everyone by being more, it's the same thing - she's insecure and tries to be impressive by going all out. Especially when she hulks.

Getting back to the mimic thing - we won't know 100% who Nami was the most jealous of. What I think is she was jealous of their intimacy; she felt left out at the back of the class, the odd one out. I think she was jealous of both.

THe cabin thing, and Nami reporting them missing to the police officer (truant officer?) Laverne could be her not being able to process the idea of them having something together that she wasn't allowed to share. Remember what she says about getting the earring - "you and Summer left me alone and when off somewhere again" or words to that effect. Her biggest fear is being alone.

About possessiveness, the thing is she doesn't want anyone to take Nika away from her, but if you're on her romance path, she is really upset with anyone else showing Nika affection. Her reactions to Bella are very different if Nika kisses Bella or if he interacts with Mila post Nami kiss. So she is very jealous, but also knows that she is desperate enough to take what she is granted.

We also don't know what Nami was like before, the talk after the fourway kiss if you walk with Nami shows that there is a different Nami who is not sugar and spice, that Nia isn't being too sensitive, but Nami can actually be a bitch. We're yet to find out how that all went down, but it'll be revealed - Nika will mention it in therapy at the least.

We also have the fact that Nika was at some point charged as a juvenile. So far we've only seen "happy" flash backs where Nika and Nami first knew Summer, we haven't seen any flashback of the period when Nika was fighting and Nami was mean. Which probably means there's some stuff there that Ocean wants to reveal slowly.

EDIT: Also, how Nami was when she was mean, was part of what made Nika how he is now, that's important to remember - from the talk after the fourway kiss. It's serious enough that he feels he needs therapy for it.
 

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Yeah I feel like it mostly comes from feeling like summer betrayed her even though nami's feeling for nika werent clear but to anyone but her. Its like he told amber summer and nami started to resent each other shortly after summer started pursuing him. I can see her trying to play games and control people so she couldnt be hurt like that again. But it probably killed her inside the whole time they were together and maybe even resented summer for leaving him in the state he was in even though it obviously wasnt her fault he ended up so broken from it.

The unclear part if if summer is even gone like you said. The memory just cuts off at the cabin everytime.
I will not pretend that a Yandere Nami is something that I am not interest about; but I don't really think that this is the case, if so, it would make her much like Leia and I don't think it is the case.

I don't really think that she did something bad, BAD, I see more as something that she is not proud of and would rather forget. Nami is jealous, but she has a trouple path and Mila don't, my point is that, yes she is possessive but she also is the one pushing Nika to normancy.

Another point is that we don't really know Summer, maybe she went after Nika knowing that Nami had feelings for him, maybe don't. The thing is, Nami might have legitimate reason to resent Summer that we don't know about.

I don't think that Nami ever confronted her feelings for Nika, she was happy to play with it because was safe as a joke, the moment Nika took action was when she had to admit that she had fellings for him. I doubt that 12 years old Nami understanded what she felt, she sundely was the third wheel, she lost Nika and her friend felt bad about it and acted petty later, not something to be proud off but hardly something evil

That said, would love Yandere Nami secretly killing every LI of the game
 

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EDIT: Also, how Nami was when she was mean, was part of what made Nika how he is now, that's important to remember - from the talk after the fourway kiss. It's serious enough that he feels he needs therapy for it.
I did not interpreted as the reason that he seeked therapy rather a factor in it, in fact Noji forces the therapy after the home invasion with Bella. My bet is that Nami knew that she was the reason that Nika was fighting and enable it, maybe even encourage it, one of those fight was the violent incidet, the charges or both of them, she realized that what she was doing was fucked up regreted it, and now is guilted over it.

Really don't think that even a piss off Nami would ever intentionally and direct harm Nika
 
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