VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Penfold Mole]

I'v written at length about that plot hole, I won't bore the thread with repeating all the ins and outs. It's bad writing. The cabin is 6 hours away from where they are by the way, not the school. The school is just "out west". But the lake is the lake that they currently go to, which was walking distance from their old house. It's eldritch geometries of time and space, strange calculus to make it work.

Oh, I think I just realized how to solve this geometry problem without breaking the space-time continuum!

The cabin could be 6 hours drive away because the road there goes around something, some geographical obstruction that cars are unable to cross - mountains, a wide river or a river in a deep canyon somewhere up the mountains and the road goes around these obstacles, creating a wide loop of 6 hours drive there.

But at the same time the lake and maybe even the cabin are in a small hike distance on foot. A shortcut. Maybe there's a small suspension bridge across the canyon or you have to climb up or down a slope too steep for cars . Maybe the cabin is also further away than the lake.

With the ground around here having much less lumps and bumps than Beanpole's body does, I failed to realize until now that such obstacles may exist in some places. I've only been in real mountains a few times, so I'm not used to think in 3D when it comes to geography and travel distances.

Of course, it may be a bit unrealistic that no shortcuts in the form of tunnels or bridges have ever created to reach these places, but they may be in a scarcely or completely unpopulated area. Maybe a nature reserve of some sorts.

Obviously, I haven't really thought about it before, so it could still create some inconsistencies...

 

[BobTheDuck]

There's really no one on his private Discord to help him catch this type of stuff, so all you need to do is locate their old school, let's say 30 km west of Wollust, and place a lake exactly in the middle, say 15 km between one and the other, and then rewrite Nojiko's text about the trip to cabin and let's say it starts to fit

and I have two little questions for you Bob because I see that you know a lot about this game

Coach Hill saying she heard about Nika before and Nami snitching Nika away to officer Laverne can it be found in the game now or was it in the pre-rework version because I can't find it anywhere

And if Ocean can produce 1,000 renders a month, does he ever intend to refresh these outdated renders from the middle of season 1 to make the whole thing feel more coherent?

The thing about discord is he did have a channel to report things, but he really needs someone to proof read,not for spelling mistakes but for the overall plan. The problem is you patch one inconsistency just to reveal another. If Ocean skipped some of these details, it wouldn't be inconsistent, but it'd feel pretty bland. The details are what make it plausible. Mst people don't care though, it's enough that the school is different and it's supposedly further away etc. We might as well measure distance by the number of renders - it really doesn't change the story, it's just there is so many little details it's hard for anyone to keep straight. The only real issue here is the cabin being set 6 hours away by car - it's implausible for Nika and Summer to have gotten there on their own, and for Nami to call Jane (who is a family friend? Truant officer? Was Nika already in trouble while WITH Summer?) Place it an hour's drive away, it's far enough to be plausible, especially when they have alke in walking distance to their current house...

I'm just good at remembering topics to search the script file ...and I might have played it a few times, with each different path available to get a broader picture, nerd that I am.

They're both in the full season. Coach Hill's info was an addition to the first season, the other has always been in the story line.

Spoiler: Coach Hill talking to Nika IF Bella knees him in the nuts because there's no heist

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Spoiler: Nami sending Jane Larverne after Summer and Nika

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Regards the renders and fixes to season 1 - let them be. When Ocean finishes, he can revise these. Most big games would have a continuity check towards the end before release. Because this is episodic, it's a lot harder. I don't personally want Ocean to spend time making season 1 perfect: he's released it to the best that he could manage, lets move on. It's already a great achievement.

Oh, I think I just realized how to solve this geometry problem without breaking the space-time continuum!

The cabin could be 6 hours drive away because the road there goes around something, some geographical obstruction that cars are unable to cross - mountains, a wide river or a river in a deep canyon somewhere up the mountains and the road goes around these obstacles, creating a wide loop of 6 hours drive there.

But at the same time the lake and maybe even the cabin are in a small hike distance on foot. A shortcut. Maybe there's a small suspension bridge across the canyon or you have to climb up or down a slope too steep for cars . Maybe the cabin is also further away than the lake.

With the ground around here having much less lumps and bumps than Beanpole's body does, I failed to realize until now that such obstacles may exist in some places. I've only been in real mountains a few times, so I'm not used to think in 3D when it comes to geography and travel distances.

Of course, it may be a bit unrealistic that no shortcuts in the form of tunnels or bridges have ever created to reach these places, but they may be in a scarcely or completely unpopulated area. Maybe a nature reserve of some sorts.

Obviously, I haven't really thought about it before, so it could still create some inconsistencies...

Totally possible, but I still think it's just an oversight. Ocean wanted the cabin to be somewhere Nika and Summer disappeared to, that was unsupervised, and nowhere near their friends, far enough that they can't get home after the sun sets. 1 hour walk is enough. 1 hour by car is enough. 6 hours by car is passing through how many countries borders in middle Europe? Doesn't need to be that far at all

 

[LHDLLB]

Noji forces the therapy because of how Nika treated Bella by triggering her, not the home invasion. It's poorly written, the last straw is if you did the home invasion - but you have to go to therapy even if you didn't. Nami doesn't snitch on you either, so the therapy is independent of the break in. As I say, poorly written - the cause and effect aren't properly connected. It should be because of the lack of empathy you show Bella, because of triggering her, and that's a really shitting thing to do (as both Ayua and Nami realise).

So the therapy is recognising that although NIka is quiet at the moment, he needs help socialising and understanding how to reintegrate to society rather than anger management or morality compass issues.

As far as to what or why Nami triggered/egged Nika along post Summer, that's undisclosed, and seems to be a plot point. I think there will be elements of that, but the way Nika talks about

Spoiler: their past

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highly suggests there's some Natural Born Killers vibes going on (not that intense, but even still), playing risky games for adrenaline to feel alive. Post Summer both Nika and Nami were adrift for different reasons, NIka more so, and Nami's effectively masked her issues by deferring to Nika.

I am sorry, did was I that write bad or was bad writer from Ocean part ? I only intended to point out that Nika did not seek out therapy or it was related to Nami.

I think that the therapy can be all of that, not long ago the thread was discussion that Nika is not really a good person and has a fucked up moral compass. But I agree with you, his goal with it is to be more social.

is true that we don't know, but I can't imagine something else. My problem with the Nami Yandere theory is that would make her much like Leia and Nami reminds more of Katie. She was the third wheel that wanted to fit in, as you said, jealosus of their intimacy. Katie also did fucked up things but she is not Leia. I don't think that whatever Nami did was as thought out as Nika believe

 

[BobTheDuck]

I am sorry, did was I that write bad or was bad writer from Ocean part ? I only intended to point out that Nika did not seek out therapy or it was related to Nami.

I think that the therapy can be all of that, not long ago the thread was discussion that Nika is not really a good person and has a fucked up moral compass. But I agree with you, his goal with it is to be more social.

is true that we don't know, but I can't imagine something else. My problem with the Nami Yandere theory is that would make her much like Leia and Nami reminds more of Katie. She was the third wheel that wanted to fit in, as you said, jealosus of their intimacy. Katie also did fucked up things but she is not Leia. I don't think that whatever Nami did was as thought out as Nika believe

Oh no - I meant bad writing from Ocean - it's implied that Noji knows about the heist, when Nami specifically didn't snitch (or so we are lead to believe). The therapy happens no matter what you do, and it happens before you fight with Sai (I think you get the message in the class before the fight). The only thing Nika has done is trigger Bella over her sister. Noji mentions Bella's name before she meets Bella at therapy... so the implication is that Nami told Noji that Nika mistreated Bella. The reason I say it's bad writing is that it is not clear what triggers it, and if you go on the heist, that's the last straw... but what's the last straw if you don't go on the heist? It's the same outcome for different reasons. The only two things that make sense are the way he treats Bella and that he admits he's having difficulties being social to Noji (ie helping Vic, meeting too many people outside his comfort zone). But as it's kind of framed as a "you did something so off to therapy you go", the things that triggers it must be ho Nika treats Bella.

I don't think of Nami as a yandere, but someone who is capable of being dark and potentially decietful, when all we've seen is her being nice. When she gets angry though, we can see that she has the potential to be strongly affected, even if she can calm quickly and doesn't hold a grudge.

 

[LHDLLB]

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I don't think of Nami as a yandere, but someone who is capable of being dark and potentially decietful, when all we've seen is her being nice. When she gets angry though, we can see that she has the potential to be strongly affected, even if she can calm quickly and doesn't hold a grudge.

That is certainly true, not only for Nami but everyone. Is just that a not small part of the fandom portrayed Nami as much darker than she may be. As i said, she reminds me more of Katie, someone who did bad out of felling bad rather than Leia that do bad because she likes it.

 

[yossa999]

That is certainly true, not only for Nami but everyone. Is just that a not small part of the fandom portrayed Nami as much darker than she may be. As i said, she reminds me more of Katie, someone who did bad out of felling bad rather than Leia that do bad because she likes it.

I don't think the fandom portrayed Nami like this. The author talks about this through his characters.

Spoiler: Nia & Nika, ch5

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Spoiler: Nami & Nika, ch4x5

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So, as you can see, the MC believes that Nami's kindness to him may be compensation for what she did in the past. Nia says Nami was mean and the MC confirms it. The Fandom of the Opera didn't come up with this out of nowhere.

 

[Penfold Mole]

Uhh, I'd like to see the popular mean Nami in a flashback.

 

[Joshy92]

I don't think the fandom portrayed Nami like this. The author talks about this through his characters.

Spoiler: Nia & Nika, ch5

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Spoiler: Nami & Nika, ch4x5

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So, as you can see, the MC believes that Nami's kindness to him may be compensation for what she did in the past. Nia says Nami was mean and the MC confirms it. The Fandom of the Opera didn't come up with this out of nowhere.

I'm going to ignore all that and say Nami is a perfect angel.

 

[yossa999]

I'm going to ignore all that and say Nami is a perfect angel.

Of course she is. It's funny, I remember a TV series where another perfect angel, just like her, drove a convertible with the license plate "FALL1N1"
But I'm sure you're buttering her up just so you can have a threesome with her and Nia.

 

[Joshy92]

Of course she is. It's funny, I remember a TV series where another perfect angel, just like her, drove a convertible with the license plate "FALL1N1"
But I'm sure you're buttering her up just so you can have a threesome with her and Nia.

My friend it's me your talking to you know the kind of threesome I want wouldn't be allowed.

 

[xCalon]

I'm going to ignore all that and say Nami is a perfect angel.

Of course she is, she absolutely loves handholding, and headpats too.

 

[Ray_D]

I'm going to ignore all that and say Nami is a perfect angel.

She's not a perfect angel, after all she wants to fuck her roommate, what kind of degenerate is she?

 

[yossa999]

Of course she is, she absolutely loves handholding, and headpats too.

Although it sounds oddly dirty in the context of your response to Joshy, she can be very sweet sometimes.

Spoiler: Cheeto being touchy

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[Adhdclassic]

I'm hoping my starting lineup will meet.
Coach-Helen
Center-Leia
Forwards-Mila and Dana
Guards-Zoey and Victoria
6th man-Emilia

 

[LHDLLB]

I don't think the fandom portrayed Nami like this. The author talks about this through his characters.

Spoiler: Nia & Nika, ch5

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So, as you can see, the MC believes that Nami's kindness to him may be compensation for what she did in the past. Nia says Nami was mean and the MC confirms it. The Fandom of the Opera didn't come up with this out of nowhere.

I am aware of this conversation, and Nami denies the MC interpretation, she may be lying she may be not. And I am not trying to say that Nami did nothing wrong or was a saint, just that, lefted to the imagination is only natural that people think the worse possibilite.

Nami is certainly capable of act evil, and I do belive that she did, I only think that is not something as signicative as we might think and for reasons much differents.

 

[HarryDubois420]

I haven't jerked it in a week. I think i got the mc's syndrome lads. I don't feel horny anymore. I crave drama now. Who'd have thought it'd take an AVN to make me actually get it together. Huh life's full of surprises eh?

 

[superseveneight]

She's not a perfect angel, after all she wants to fuck her roommate, what kind of degenerate is she?
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Nika: Time to add Cheeto Sniffing to the list of kinks.

 

[Dessolos]

just so you can have a threesome with her and Nia.

trying to get me horny over here. I dislike threesomes but that is one of the ones I actually do want since I have a hard time deciding who I like better Nami or Nia 2 out 3 of the girls in my top 3 for this game.

I haven't jerked it in a week. I think i got the mc's syndrome lads. I don't feel horny anymore. I crave drama now. Who'd have thought it'd take an AVN to make me actually get it together. Huh life's full of surprises eh?

honestly since I started playing AVN's I find I don't feel the need to do that as much either as I just want more interactions with characters I like don't even care about lewd scenes

 

[bombo]

I'm going to ignore all that and say Nami is a perfect angel.

100% agree
i love everything about her
that scene when she cried was f...ing heartbreaking

 

[Marley300]

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Hello,

Welcome to the tenth Dev Log of Season 2.

Quick tax & workstation info
I heard back from the gov regarding the insane pre-tax I had to pay. They reduced it by 66%. Thank god.
Means: The workstation is again on the table for this year. Yay!

Work's going great... I had some difficulties managing the person I'm learning Blender with (A real-life friend's girlfriend. We're learning it together, and she's gotta create assets for when I switch to Blender.)

But let's see if that even works out.

Today's Dev Log is rather short. Everything's going great, and nothing bad is happening. All in all, I can't complain.

Previews:
Today's previews are quite the sight... 4K is attached and recommended for the last two previews.

Last time I showed something from Mila's intro scene... Let me give you a small glimpse into the Cheeto's intro scene.
That's the most I can show without giving away too much...

A rare sighting of some Sasha previews.


I also have a wallpaper version with some red contrasts of the last preview image.

Everything's great. The sleep schedule is fixed.
Work continues.

I'll see you in two weeks.

• Ocean