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SDDA

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"Reality" - After this, frankly, I don't even know what to say. You bring up a set of local cliches and memes that have been discussed and refuted dozens of times in this thread alone. However, you call them reality and ultimately conclude for me that, it turns out, the game attracts me solely by its visual part. Wow.

You know, probably a year ago I would have started arguing, proving, citing quotes from the game; basically cosplaying the old meme "Someone on the internet is wrong again!". :KEK:
But those days are gone, like Summer, and I no longer find any fun in this.

We definitely read different stories and see different images. I just randomly picked a statement from your post: "All in all as you can see the MC throught the whole game doesn't make any effort towards anybody for them to like him. He is an ass to all of them, but everybody digs ppl like that irl right?"

I think you missed the part where he was probably the only person in Mila's life who stood up for her against richy bullies without even thinking about the consequences, and only when she pulled him out of a possible fight and he cooled down a bit, he admitted to himself that by beating up the arrogant fatso, he would probably have set up not only himself, but his family as well. Or, like, when he rushed to help Maja cope with Vic's breakdown, although his own mind was completely fucked up at the moment, and after they left the clinic, he was immediately struck by his infamous panic attack. Or dozens of other moments where he outwardly shows off like a bitch, but in fact does more for others than anyone. This is certainly the behavior of a person who acts like an ass to everyone and makes no effort towards anybody for them to like him.

However, I got carried away again. Thanks for the honest answer, I hear your point, I hope you find game(s) to your taste. And let me return the favor of speaking for someone else, because I can tell you with confidence that SG is not for you and will only get worse (for you) with every update.

Well, I will continue to enjoy one of the best stories that AVN writers can offer today. :KEK:
At least its nice to see people that are so into these games they make parts play out more in their heads then the game actually offers them, like this the dev can stretch out the development however he wants and keep on without delivering anything progressive and let you enjoy nothing, but a mans butthole for years.

And i though on a forum you would be expecting an answer and make conversation not get surprised when someone counters your thoughts.
 
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yossa999

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That sounds pretty dope. Can you PM me the game, please? I'd like to try it out. Don't want you breaking thread rules ;)
Sure, but there is no need for PMs, they're all in my signature, manually selected from about five hundred AVNs. Enjoy yourself! :giggle:
 
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Sure, but there is no need for PMs, they're all in my signature, manually selected from about five hundred AVNs. Enjoy yourself! :giggle:
I was just teasing :p As far as I'm concerned we can disagree and still be cordial.

I already downloaded the last one as per Maviarab 's recommendation and will be trying it out as soon as I have the time
 

Tremonia

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Uhh I hate to break this down to you but there isn't a single AVN exists that is epic lol
Urm... That depends on what you call "epic". Many players would call "Leap Of Faith" as epic, but I don't think you would ever admit it when you'll have played it and I don't believe for a second you played it.

Oh, btw, putting "lol" at the end of a sentence doesn't make it to a joke or something funny. And it doesn't indicate that this sentence isn't meant hostile. It's a sign of being insecure.
 

yossa999

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I was just teasing :p As far as I'm concerned we can disagree and still be cordial.
So was I. :Kappa: It reminds me of a scene from one of the games in the signature where the MC tries to make fun of the librarian, but the librarian makes a joke back with a deadly straight face. Then the main character is unsure of the meaning of their conversation and clarifies that he was joking, and the librarian replies that she was joking too. And they agree that they don't seem to quite understand each other's humor. :KEK:

I already downloaded the last one as per @Maviarab 's recommendation and will be trying it out as soon as I have the time
It's so damn hard to stay on topic sometimes, I can't even write that Mavi is recommending this game only because he's promoting his walkthrough for it. :Kappa:
 

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Urm... That depends on what you call "epic". Many players would call "Leap Of Faith" as epic, but I don't think you would ever admit it when you'll have played it and I don't believe for a second you played it.

Oh, btw, putting "lol" at the end of a sentence doesn't make it to a joke or something funny. And it doesn't indicate that this sentence isn't meant hostile. It's a sign of being insecure.
Epic= "heroic or grand in scale or character"
I am going with this defination sir, maybe it has other meaning which I am not aware of.

And believe it or not but I have actually played Leap of Faith, what a shock right?
It felt more like a slice of life, romance visual novel instead of a epic journey written by Drifty.

But again who am I to think logically, I am just an insecure person who try to hard too be funny and still fail miserably :(

Anyways I am so sorry sweet sir for offending you, believe me it wasn't my intention.
 
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It's so damn hard to stay on topic sometimes, I can't even write that Mavi is recommending this game only because he's promoting his walkthrough for it. :Kappa:
Well that's just like...your opinion, you know.

I can do one for this too if required as it seems Mueshi given up on his (though can't say I blame him lol).
 

PaxHadrian17

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reality is if you think this story is epic you probably never read a book.
Reality:

You have an opinion that Many of us do not hold - that is fine as we each get to have our own opinion.

Ocean is not going to win a Pulitzer but then I have not read Any AVN that Will win at that level of competition.

We have, in AVNs:

* Poor to some great writers

* Poor to some great coders

* Poor to some great Daz/Blender creators

* Poor to some great music creators

Ocean is Not great in all these things but, IMO, he does a decent to great job depending on the category (music includes finding/including music that adds to the SG experience).

Could he be a better coder - Absolutely!

Has he had some issues, like music licensing problems, crop up that have diminished some of the favorite scenes many of us enjoy - Absolutely!

Is his English perfect - No!

But, he is learning his craft, growing his skills, innovating with new software and tools, hiring outside help (some works out and some does not) and this AVN is still here when so many others have been abandoned during the time of SG's development.

If, after actually experiencing All of SG season 1, you don't like Summers Gone, then it is unlikely that Season 2 is going to improve your opinion of this AVN, and your time will be better spent searching for something more to your taste.

I will be staying because I enjoy Summers Gone and I am looking forward to more of this part of Oceanverse!

GL in your hunt for something you enjoy!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

SDDA

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Reality:

You have an opinion that Many of us do not hold - that is fine as we each get to have our own opinion.

Ocean is not going to win a Pulitzer but then I have not read Any AVN that Will win at that level of competition.

We have, in AVNs:

* Poor to some great writers

* Poor to some great coders

* Poor to some great Daz/Blender creators

* Poor to some great music creators

Ocean is Not great in all these things but, IMO, he does a decent to great job depending on the category (music includes finding/including music that adds to the SG experience).

Could he be a better coder - Absolutely!

Has he had some issues, like music licensing problems, crop up that have diminished some of the favorite scenes many of us enjoy - Absolutely!

Is his English perfect - No!

But, he is learning his craft, growing his skills, innovating with new software and tools, hiring outside help (some works out and some does not) and this AVN is still here when so many others have been abandoned during the time of SG's development.

If, after actually experiencing All of SG season 1, you don't like Summers Gone, then it is unlikely that Season 2 is going to improve your opinion of this AVN, and your time will be better spent searching for something more to your taste.

I will be staying because I enjoy Summers Gone and I am looking forward to more of this part of Oceanverse!

GL in your hunt for something you enjoy!

Cheers!! :coffee:
I love that in a forum we only see the post above us and nothing else, this conversation started by why he doesn't build a team or get help to be more productive. Where i answered that since good visuals are more than enough to get ppl hooked on the game while the story is mediocre there is no reason for him to hire anyone.

Now there is nothing bad with somebody honing his skills and learning new things along the way, but why do it for the expense of progression? Do you rly think that from 2019-2024 only visual updates are enough, cause the dev wanted to learn and try blender? That you only get butt plug guy and nothing else while scenes get deleted so he can get more money from gog and steam? What are you guys on about?

SG was here, cause he didn't need to move 1 inch further than he started, he learned a new program and supporters who wanted to continue did finance his education. I honestly can't believe that ppl have nothing wrong about if they repeat scene to scene everything with each update with a little extension, like the bar scene in the last update and such. Why do u think we are only at season 1. Ppl are joking this game taking 20 years to be completed why you think that is? , but if you think about it 5 update/ 5 years and he wants 20 chapters i let you do the calculation...
 

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I love that in a forum we only see the post above us and nothing else, this conversation started by why he doesn't build a team or get help to be more productive. Where i answered that since good visuals are more than enough to get ppl hooked on the game while the story is mediocre there is no reason for him to hire anyone.

Now there is nothing bad with somebody honing his skills and learning new things along the way, but why do it for the expense of progression? Do you rly think that from 2019-2024 only visual updates are enough, cause the dev wanted to learn and try blender? That you only get butt plug guy and nothing else while scenes get deleted so he can get more money from gog and steam? What are you guys on about?

SG was here, cause he didn't need to move 1 inch further than he started, he learned a new program and supporters who wanted to continue did finance his education. I honestly can't believe that ppl have nothing wrong about if they repeat scene to scene everything with each update with a little extension, like the bar scene in the last update and such. Why do u think we are only at season 1. Ppl are joking this game taking 20 years to be completed why you think that is? , but if you think about it 5 update/ 5 years and he wants 20 chapters i let you do the calculation...
Reality:

Like it or not, Ocean did a rework and took SG to Steam, GOG and beyond.

You are complaining about the rework and ignoring Why he did the rework - not surprised.

You complain about an artist improving his skills at the expense of progression and ignore how much the early chapters of SG improved, and how much more consistent the total story is with those changes.

You complain about how long it will take for SG to be completed but it is not like you are being forced to support Ocean with $ for 20+ years.

I Enjoy Summers Gone and I'm fine with Ocean telling us a very long story.

I have a range of AVNs that I enjoy, and this is my longshot - my 'Song of Fire and Ice' - (which has been in creation since 1991 And is not finished yet...) that may never get finished but I will enjoy every year of the ride.

I get that you are not getting some of your free stuff here on F95 at the speed you want.

None of us are getting all of the content in the desired quality and at the desired speed for all of the AVNs we enjoy - whether it is those we support with $ or those we do not.

While I wait, I get to enjoy Many other AVNs that are on F95, including some favorites that released new updates in the last 30 days.

GL finding something you can enjoy!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

SDDA

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Reality:

Like it or not, Ocean did a rework and took SG to Steam, GOG and beyond.

You are complaining about the rework and ignoring Why he did the rework - not surprised.

You complain about an artist improving his skills at the expense of progression and ignore how much the early chapters of SG improved, and how much more consistent the total story is with those changes.

You complain about how long it will take for SG to be completed but it is not like you are being forced to support Ocean with $ for 20+ years.

I Enjoy Summers Gone and I'm fine with Ocean telling us a very long story.

I have a range of AVNs that I enjoy, and this is my longshot - my 'Song of Fire and Ice' - (which has been in creation since 1991 And is not finished yet...) that may never get finished but I will enjoy every year of the ride.

I get that you are not getting some of your free stuff here on F95 at the speed you want.

None of us are getting all of the content in the desired quality and at the desired speed for all of the AVNs we enjoy - whether it is those we support with $ or those we do not.

While I wait, I get to enjoy Many other AVNs that are on F95, including some favorites that released new updates in the last 30 days.

GL finding something you can enjoy!

Cheers!! :coffee:
So in reality we came back to what i said in the beginning that why would he hire any help when the better visuals are more than enough to keep and to get more supporters, even without actual progression... Thank you for realising and proving my point even tho it took 2 pages in this forum.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

yossa999

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So in reality we came back to what i said in the beginning that why would he hire any help when the better visuals are more than enough to keep and to get more supporters, even without actual progression...
:KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
Dude, don't stop there, be ambitious, you're about to prove the general theorem of the Zone "Every developer is a milker"

Why doesn't a developer hire a team? There's only one explanation - because he's a milker and doesn't want to share the profits with the rest. And you know, I can't even argue with that, developers are people, and for some reason people want to earn more and work less. Brilliant.
 
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