...I actually enjoyed the tabletop game lol. I'm well aware i'm in the minority with that one . but I will say It did eat up precious time. Hopefully the next one isn't as excessive.
I think Nika knows what happened to Summer, asking her parents or Elsa would probably been the first thing he did back than otherwise. He interrupted Elsa in the restaurant too as she intended to talk about it.
Its one of these cases where the mc knows more about certain things compared to us as the readers (which always annoys me a bit).
I kinda would like Summer to come back, but explaing all this in a reasonable way is kinda hard, it would make the most sense if Summer is simply dead. But i think she probably isnt.
Can't agree with this, I think something happened that separated them and he doesn't know if she's alive or not, or he knows she's alive but doesn't know where she is. Otherwise, all this fuss around her doesn't make any sense. Why does he constantly complain that he didn't get closure and this is tormenting him?
What does he want to find out from Emilio if he knows what happened to her? Why do you think her family told him anything, considering that his memories show that they considered him trash and unworthy of their daughter?
Maybe he stopped Elsa because he didn't want to discuss some ugly scene with her family from the past? For example, when he tried to find out the truth from them and was blamed for what happened and thrown out.
Basically, so far there is only fog around and little specifics, so you can come up with anything.
- Summer was kidnapped and since then there is no new information about her.
- She received a serious trauma and her family hide her somewhere and refuse to say to the MC where she is. She lost her memory and did not try to contact the MC.
- Her death was staged, and she is hiding somewhere undercover the witness protection program.
- She fall through the time in the past, lived until the present moment and is now known as Stephanie Marla. At the same time, she ran into her younger self, known as Sasha Petrova. She is trying to stop her younger self, because otherwise the MC will die.
...I actually enjoyed the tabletop game lol. I'm well aware i'm in the minority with that one . but I will say It did eat up precious time. Hopefully the next one isn't as excessive.
I think Nika knows what happened to Summer, asking her parents or Elsa would probably been the first thing he did back than otherwise. He interrupted Elsa in the restaurant too as she intended to talk about it.
Its one of these cases where the mc knows more about certain things compared to us as the readers (which always annoys me a bit).
I kinda would like Summer to come back, but explaing all this in a reasonable way is kinda hard, it would make the most sense if Summer is simply dead. But i think she probably isnt.
Well, if he knows, why does he want to pay Emilio to find out? Nika mentions that it would be nice to have closure, so he doesn't know. It's entirely possible everyone else does, but Nika and Nia don't know.
I do like that you drew attention to her family, but I am less sure if ir would be made to the news, plenty o children dies or go missing and not all cases gains media attention. I confess a lack of knowledge here, but does Nika don't know or don't remember ? Summer goes missing some time after the cabin, she was out to a travel, maybe the whole family died in a car accident or something. Maybe is not about the Nika's infatuation, but the mysteries that of his past, there is 100 ways to explain why Summer is gone.
I like the idea of witness protection, but I also don't. From a plot perceptive I think it works, from a character one less so. I think that whatever happened to Summer should be tied to Nika in some form, not that he need to me responsible but something he would feel responsible for, I just can't see a 14 years old boy losing himself completely over a teenager love that don't seemed to have lasted very long. I read it as a tragic and witness protection don't quite hits the same note.
Also I am less sure that Summer family is of any relevance, to be worth witness protection.
You are right again about the family, just want to say that I find odd the reluctance that of Nojiko and Nami to talk about what happened, I mean, if she simply died why they don't say it, " after Summer died". When we are at Vic's Nika explicit says that Summer disappeared, so I don't think she is dead. I have flirted with the idea that she was comatose, but now that we know about Bella sisters it feels to repetitive, unless they are somehow related. Maybe they made a plan to runway but Nami stopped Nika but was alredy too late for Summer ?
I completely agree, Summer should remain absent, bring her back don't adds nothing but cheap drama and lessens the story themes.
Nika doesn't know or is mentally hiding. Maybe he had a hand in whatever happened, and he feels subconscious guilt. We really don't know. It would make the news if they were rich, which seems to be the case. If they had a car accident, that would be easy to find out from news reports, there would be no mystery, Noji could tell him (that also means no one in Wollust is allowed a license - Nick had an accident, the Frohns (senior), the Cyrus's, Bella is likely going to have one with all the foreshadowing of how dangerous the race she's going to is, Vic had one as well... it's a miracle anyone is allowed to drive there). As we don't know anything about them other than their connection to Elsa who is in the rich circle, and Summer's parent's looked down on poor doctors like Noji, chances are they are rich enough to become news, or to be involved with the Zanes.
The witness protection might be something to do with the Zanes. That's the only situation that I think it would be worth doing that idea, and it could still be related to Summer associating with Nika. Whatever the case is, Ocean needs a pretty good way to deal with it. It doesn't have to be solved, but it has to be meaningfully dealt with, and consistent.
well,both his parents are in the great beyond or went on a secret milk run. I now laugh when I think about how both Nika and his "roomates" parents died in a car accident. Unless......perhaps they all died from the exact same car crash....doubtful. Idunno,sounds fishy.
Or the Zanes (or their enemies) took out a hit - in old WiaB the Frohn's were some sort of financiers that Leia knew. I can't remember if Maja mentions what her parents did, I think there was some mention about her finances, but I can't remember enough to find it. It'd be very efficient to bury a whole bunch of trouble makers in a serial car crash spree. Marla was the hitman, that's why she carried a gun, but it was the last job and she was out... sorry wrong game
Nika pulls the orgy devils card and they have weird tentacle sex for the remainder of the gaming session, and all the girls imaginations make him work it.
Nika pulls the orgy devils card and they have weird tentacle sex for the remainder of the gaming session, and all the girls imaginations make him work it.
For Sasha to be Summer, she has to use concealer to hide her freckles, but doesn't use concealer on the scar OR she has a whole skin transplant of her entire face. I'm sure she could afford treatments, but damn that's a convoluted plot to explain to pornhunters when you can just have Summer reappear far more easily.
Hey guys, I don't know if this has been discussed before but those anyone have an idea or have some theory about what elsa is talking about here?
My guess is that she is talking about the violent accident that Nika had in the past.
Nika doesn't know or is mentally hiding. Maybe he had a hand in whatever happened, and he feels subconscious guilt. We really don't know. It would make the news if they were rich, which seems to be the case. If they had a car accident, that would be easy to find out from news reports, there would be no mystery, Noji could tell him (that also means no one in Wollust is allowed a license - Nick had an accident, the Frohns (senior), the Cyrus's, Bella is likely going to have one with all the foreshadowing of how dangerous the race she's going to is, Vic had one as well... it's a miracle anyone is allowed to drive there). As we don't know anything about them other than their connection to Elsa who is in the rich circle, and Summer's parent's looked down on poor doctors like Noji, chances are they are rich enough to become news, or to be involved with the Zanes.
The witness protection might be something to do with the Zanes. That's the only situation that I think it would be worth doing that idea, and it could still be related to Summer associating with Nika. Whatever the case is, Ocean needs a pretty good way to deal with it. It doesn't have to be solved, but it has to be meaningfully dealt with, and consistent.
I made a comment not long ago talking about why I am unsure if Summer family had money enough to be considered rich, is not that I think is impossible but I am not leaning this way at the moment. About the car accident, you are right. For sure if the witness protection is what happened it needs to be related to the Zanes, but again despeite the Zanes being completely fucked up I don't think they are gonna be the villains here, we have to wait and see. I also am fine with we never learning what really happened with Summer, in fact I like more this way but it needs be dealt with.
Hey guys, I don't know if this has been discussed before but those anyone have an idea or have some theory about what elsa is talking about here? View attachment 3966838
My guess is that she is talking about the violent accident that Nika had in the past.
This is sorta what we are discussing right now, in short we don't know. She might be referring the violent incident, whatever happened to Summer or some other thing that Nika does not wants Bella to know at the moment. I think that the violent incident is a good bet as Nika continued going to school after Summer was gone and they seemed to gave attended the same school, so could not be related to Summer, or it is and Elsa's parents changed school after whatever happened to Summer. Right now we only know that they have not meet each other for some time after someting happened, and Nika does not wants to talk about it in front of Bella.
Typically once a year we get candy, but we all want the sugar hit sooner If Ocean is 50% done with the renders and he started making good inroads in May, 4 more months of renders, and depends on the post work, scripting etc. In theory he could be getting into that once he's got enough scenes rendered, some of the coding he could be doing while waiting for renders (such as the phone, which it sounds like he still hasn't solved the way he wants).
Hey guys, I don't know if this has been discussed before but those anyone have an idea or have some theory about what elsa is talking about here? View attachment 3966838
My guess is that she is talking about the violent accident that Nika had in the past.
I always assumed ...after Summer disappeared (or whatever happened to Summer). There was nothing indicating that they went to the same school, just that Nami and Nika used to live in her area and hung out with her (presumably because of Summer).
I made a comment not long ago talking about why I am unsure if Summer family had money enough to be considered rich, is not that I think is impossible but I am not leaning this way at the moment. About the car accident, you are right. For sure if the witness protection is what happened it needs to be related to the Zanes, but again despeite the Zanes being completely fucked up I don't think they are gonna be the villains here, we have to wait and see. I also am fine with we never learning what really happened with Summer, in fact I like more this way but it needs be dealt with.
This is sorta what we are discussing right now, in short we don't know. She might be referring the violent incident, whatever happened to Summer or some other thing that Nika does not wants Bella to know at the moment. I think that the violent incident is a good bet as Nika continued going to school after Summer was gone and they seemed to gave attended the same school, so could not be related to Summer, or it is and Elsa's parents changed school after whatever happened to Summer. Right now we only know that they have not meet each other for some time after someting happened, and Nika does not wants to talk about it in front of Bella.
For the Zanes to be involved doesn't mean they are the villains - Nika's parents could've been criminal, or the Zane's enemies took out Zane allies. There is literally no details, whe're just finding what is most plausible to each of us personally. It really depends on what plot twists Ocean has in mind, we'll likely all be wrong.
I posted some renders in this post discussing fluctuating body sizes. Ch1 Mila is different from ch4 which is different from ch2/ch5. Old Ch1 Mila before the rework was different again, but it was what people first knew. Yes the renders were quite a lot worse than now, and her model had an unrealistic waist, but she's not really cognisable now. Of all the characters that Ocean reworked completely Mila was the one that people were the unhappiest with (others were William, Scarlet, Zoey and Miru in Wiab, and Ayua, far fewer changes in SG compared to WiaB, but WiaB needed it more).
I'd say that it's be lucky if we get it before Christmas, but who knows? Ocean's devlogs haven't really been detailing progress on a timescale. He had 50% of the renders done in 4 months or so, but the dynamic clothing's probably added to that. He could be going faster now than before. Read the devlogs when they come out to get a sense of progress, but you have to read between the lines because Ocean just won't commit to deadlines, because he typically misses them every time he says a date. Better to just release it when ready.
For the Zanes to be involved doesn't mean they are the villains - Nika's parents could've been criminal, or the Zane's enemies took out Zane allies. There is literally no details, whe're just finding what is most plausible to each of us personally. It really depends on what plot twists Ocean has in mind, we'll likely all be wrong.
Of all the characters that Ocean reworked completely Mila was the one that people were the unhappiest with (others were William, Scarlet, Zoey and Miru in Wiab, and Ayua, far fewer changes in SG compared to WiaB, but WiaB needed it more).
I don't think anyone was unhappy with the new Miru, but I don't think anyone seeing old chapter 1 Mila was ready for new chaper 1 Mila. Everyone saw the new Amber and Miru and immediately saw the wisdom of the change. I'm still struggling to persuade myself that Mila is not a shapeshifter who changes size in each chapter.
Well, if he knows, why does he want to pay Emilio to find out? Nika mentions that it would be nice to have closure, so he doesn't know. It's entirely possible everyone else does, but Nika and Nia don't know.
Nika doesn't know or is mentally hiding. Maybe he had a hand in whatever happened, and he feels subconscious guilt. We really don't know. It would make the news if they were rich, which seems to be the case. If they had a car accident, that would be easy to find out from news reports, there would be no mystery, Noji could tell him (that also means no one in Wollust is allowed a license - Nick had an accident, the Frohns (senior), the Cyrus's, Bella is likely going to have one with all the foreshadowing of how dangerous the race she's going to is, Vic had one as well... it's a miracle anyone is allowed to drive there). As we don't know anything about them other than their connection to Elsa who is in the rich circle, and Summer's parent's looked down on poor doctors like Noji, chances are they are rich enough to become news, or to be involved with the Zanes.
The witness protection might be something to do with the Zanes. That's the only situation that I think it would be worth doing that idea, and it could still be related to Summer associating with Nika. Whatever the case is, Ocean needs a pretty good way to deal with it. It doesn't have to be solved, but it has to be meaningfully dealt with, and consistent.
Or the Zanes (or their enemies) took out a hit - in old WiaB the Frohn's were some sort of financiers that Leia knew. I can't remember if Maja mentions what her parents did, I think there was some mention about her finances, but I can't remember enough to find it. It'd be very efficient to bury a whole bunch of trouble makers in a serial car crash spree. Marla was the hitman, that's why she carried a gun, but it was the last job and she was out... sorry wrong game
Nika pulls the orgy devils card and they have weird tentacle sex for the remainder of the gaming session, and all the girls imaginations make him work it.
I always assumed ...after Summer disappeared (or whatever happened to Summer). There was nothing indicating that they went to the same school, just that Nami and Nika used to live in her area and hung out with her (presumably because of Summer).
For the Zanes to be involved doesn't mean they are the villains - Nika's parents could've been criminal, or the Zane's enemies took out Zane allies. There is literally no details, whe're just finding what is most plausible to each of us personally. It really depends on what plot twists Ocean has in mind, we'll likely all be wrong.
I posted some renders in this post discussing fluctuating body sizes. Ch1 Mila is different from ch4 which is different from ch2/ch5. Old Ch1 Mila before the rework was different again, but it was what people first knew. Yes the renders were quite a lot worse than now, and her model had an unrealistic waist, but she's not really cognisable now. Of all the characters that Ocean reworked completely Mila was the one that people were the unhappiest with (others were William, Scarlet, Zoey and Miru in Wiab, and Ayua, far fewer changes in SG compared to WiaB, but WiaB needed it more).
I'd say that it's be lucky if we get it before Christmas, but who knows? Ocean's devlogs haven't really been detailing progress on a timescale. He had 50% of the renders done in 4 months or so, but the dynamic clothing's probably added to that. He could be going faster now than before. Read the devlogs when they come out to get a sense of progress, but you have to read between the lines because Ocean just won't commit to deadlines, because he typically misses them every time he says a date. Better to just release it when ready.