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This is what ocean spielberge doesWhy?
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Edit: Ray_D do you really think yossa is doing anything other than fishing?
For Sasha to be Summer, she has to use concealer to hide her freckles, but doesn't use concealer on the scar OR she has a whole skin transplant of her entire face. I'm sure she could afford treatments, but damn that's a convoluted plot to explain to pornhunters when you can just have Summer reappear far more easily.
Also, no one every really asks, what the hell happened to Summer's parents? For Summer to disappear, her parents had to as well, or it would be in the news 'parent's heartbroken, tryst goes wrong, police hunting for lost teen'. The fact Nika doesn't know, Nia doesn't know (because she's more clued on to women not looking the same as they did 5 years ago) and Elsa's mom should know where her sister is... I'd HIGHLY doubt Nika's infatuation is so dramatic that Summer's mom would go into hiding, lose all her friends etc.
Only solution I see is witness protection/relocation, which fits in with the Zanes being criminal. They wouldn't then just get an eraser for Summer's freckles and leave her in WOllust as one of the most prominent families.
And if Sasha is Summer, why doesn't Nika recognise Elena's surname? It'd bring a pang to his heart with memories, he heard it in school every time the role was called.
He is coocking lads
Bella vs summer would be WW3
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Is this real???????? WtF
everything can be Real
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Memento plotline??
Nika was with summer when she disapeard/kidnapped and got saved by zanes
Nika is so traumatized he cant remember shit
Poor guy cant even get a boner .....
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Dont know if this was already discussed here, but....
I was playing the book club part again today and theres that part where Emilia says Kelly has the biggest potential to be a pornstar, then Kelly start to tease Sasha...then Adrianna warns Kelly that Sasha is a very talented martial artist and to not antagonize her, and previously Ayua told Nika that only if he married her, one of her sisters or cousins that he could learn the family's techniques...and when Jenna mentioned William doing Katie teammates back then both Adrianna and Sasha shared a awkward look, so theres a chance that Sasha is William's daughter and took her mother's surname? And there is her earring.
At least she can be one of Ayua's cousins....but the look they had me thinking shes linked to William, as for me Adrianna is one of Miru's daughters. And Sasha and Ayua seems to be close. Kelly even says: " As being said in Genesis 1:28, "be fruitful and mutiply", maybe this was a way of dev hinting that William multiplied a lot. hehe
I was playing the book club part again today and theres that part where Emilia says Kelly has the biggest potential to be a pornstar, then Kelly start to tease Sasha...then Adrianna warns Kelly that Sasha is a very talented martial artist and to not antagonize her, and previously Ayua told Nika that only if he married her, one of her sisters or cousins that he could learn the family's techniques...and when Jenna mentioned William doing Katie teammates back then both Adrianna and Sasha shared a awkward look, so theres a chance that Sasha is William's daughter and took her mother's surname? And there is her earring.
At least she can be one of Ayua's cousins....but the look they had me thinking shes linked to William, as for me Adrianna is one of Miru's daughters. And Sasha and Ayua seems to be close. Kelly even says: " As being said in Genesis 1:28, "be fruitful and mutiply", maybe this was a way of dev hinting that William multiplied a lot. hehe
While is by no means impossible that william had sired Sasha with Elena Petrova. Do you think that Miru wold have shared her family martial art with someone outside her family ?
Even if we assume that William is in did Sasha father, this does not make Sasha a kin of Miru. Sasha might be a talented martial artist, but this does not means that she knows Miru's fighting style.
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I have a theory
So there is potential for Sasha to be Ayua's sister-in-lawView attachment 3707140
Hmmm, I got the first impression he was Sasha's older brother and Ayua's boyfriend.
Or he is Sasha's bodyguard, and actually Ayua is Sasha's girlfriend.
Sasha told her bodyguards to take Ayua (her girlfriend) home.
Or her bride
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If by cousins Ayua meant the other females from her mother's part of the family then makes sense, but it was not specified yet....i dont even remember if Miru has a sister tbh.
I think the chances are still there and theres minor stuff like the earring pointing to it, and if shes William daughter maaaybe this would bring the families together, i cant see Miru rejecting William's offspring, even if it is from a women she doesnt like, but if this was the case Sasha and Ayua would not be close or friendly with each other, probably.
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Which is a drama very different from the process of Nika healing. That would be a tangent from main theme of the game, which is Nika learns to own and deal with his own shit. It would be far more in keeping (IF Summer returns) for Nika to resolve how he's eithe rmoving on or trying to go back. Cat fights will take the focus of Nika's response and blunt it. It'd almost be like a fight scene in a marvel film; sure it advances the plot, but it's low grade writing.This is what ocean spielberge does
He is coocking lads
Bella vs summer would be WW3
Not saying it won't happen, but not every idea should be put in a single story, and the jealousy catfights are already a big thing for Ocean to explore in WiaB (plus the Katie war). I think the jealous issues in SG are more going to be things that appear because NIka acts like an asshole, rather than things outside his control.
There will be more things about personal responsibility. Also, Summer returning... the first thing would be exploring why she was gone right? It's not going to be a 'season 3, let's introduce the new exchange student' kinda deal. Summer will have issues to work through if she appears, Elsa's reaction to Nika shows it was serious, it's not just something in Nika's head.
Who said the Zanes saved her? We know nothing about Summer being gone yet.Memento plotline??
Nika was with summer when she disapeard/kidnapped and got saved by zanes
Nika is so traumatized he cant remember shit
Poor guy cant even get a boner .....
Nika does remember a lot, he supresses the memories, but he remembers Summer's parents, remebers the reasons for his fights, remembers everything but the one (or two?) traumas he supresses - the cabin incident (which he does remember because he starts hyperventilating when he starts to think about it, so it is there, he is just avoiding thinking of it to stay calm) and the violent incident (doesn't remember the hospital, but that might be because he was so badly injured he wasn't actually paying attention to the hospital at all, and might have been drugged on pain killers when released).
Because Nika can't get a boner, he's the only one who didn't get blueballed in season 1
There is certainly a chance. Elena was meant to be a LI in the old WiaB, we don't know where things stand now, or if she's the same character that she was (previously she was a lawyer for the evil guys).
The important thing is who were the team mates of course, and where are they now?
But Miru is willing to teach Leia and Katie in WiaB, so this thought that she is a ninja clan princess with the inherited knowledge of the secret techniques is more to do with old WiaB (so far). If Willi marries Miru, then it's really easy for her to adopt Willi's wild oats. Also, consider that Ayua teaches and trains at the studio as a job. There is standard martial arts on offer, which is what she's going to train Nika in. We don't know what the family training is like, or even if that was drunk horny Ayua speak for Nika, 'marry me so I can teach you secret techniques of the oversexed ninjas!'. Sasha having training in MMA doesn't equal the private Miru techniques necessarily. I think it's too early to tell either way.
Old WiaB had things about Miru's past, since the rework it's unknown. But why would Leia use her earring to mark Willi's wild oats with someone else? The earring isn't a specific sign of the Zane's, but of Leia's patronage/interests. Nami redhead could be Dylan's wild oats for all we know, Leia has no redhead gene with what Ocean mentioned about changes to WiaB (look at the recent devlogs in that thread, it's alarge topic, maybe 3-4 devlogs ago). Katie does from her dad though, and maybe that's why Katie is interested in Nami?
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a lot of wild speculations for an Avn that not even Ocean knows where it's going but what caught my attention the most is the fact that you Ducky , believe if Summer returns the story will become low grade writing ..... guess what ? Summer's gone , W.I.A.B and the rest of Avn story telling industry is low grade writing , this people are good creating images but they aren't writers , i'd bet you that 99% of them doesn't even know how to write a birthday card with more than 2 words in it.Which is a drama very different from the process of Nika healing. That would be a tangent from main theme of the game, which is Nika learns to own and deal with his own shit. It would be far more in keeping (IF Summer returns) for Nika to resolve how he's eithe rmoving on or trying to go back. Cat fights will take the focus of Nika's response and blunt it. It'd almost be like a fight scene in a marvel film; sure it advances the plot, but it's low grade writing.
Not saying it won't happen, but not every idea should be put in a single story, and the jealousy catfights are already a big thing for Ocean to explore in WiaB (plus the Katie war). I think the jealous issues in SG are more going to be things that appear because NIka acts like an asshole, rather than things outside his control.
There will be more things about personal responsibility. Also, Summer returning... the first thing would be exploring why she was gone right? It's not going to be a 'season 3, let's introduce the new exchange student' kinda deal. Summer will have issues to work through if she appears, Elsa's reaction to Nika shows it was serious, it's not just something in Nika's head.
Who said the Zanes saved her? We know nothing about Summer being gone yet.
Nika does remember a lot, he supresses the memories, but he remembers Summer's parents, remebers the reasons for his fights, remembers everything but the one (or two?) traumas he supresses - the cabin incident (which he does remember because he starts hyperventilating when he starts to think about it, so it is there, he is just avoiding thinking of it to stay calm) and the violent incident (doesn't remember the hospital, but that might be because he was so badly injured he wasn't actually paying attention to the hospital at all, and might have been drugged on pain killers when released).
Because Nika can't get a boner, he's the only one who didn't get blueballed in season 1
There is certainly a chance. Elena was meant to be a LI in the old WiaB, we don't know where things stand now, or if she's the same character that she was (previously she was a lawyer for the evil guys).
The important thing is who were the team mates of course, and where are they now?
But Miru is willing to teach Leia and Katie in WiaB, so this thought that she is a ninja clan princess with the inherited knowledge of the secret techniques is more to do with old WiaB (so far). If Willi marries Miru, then it's really easy for her to adopt Willi's wild oats. Also, consider that Ayua teaches and trains at the studio as a job. There is standard martial arts on offer, which is what she's going to train Nika in. We don't know what the family training is like, or even if that was drunk horny Ayua speak for Nika, 'marry me so I can teach you secret techniques of the oversexed ninjas!'. Sasha having training in MMA doesn't equal the private Miru techniques necessarily. I think it's too early to tell either way.
Old WiaB had things about Miru's past, since the rework it's unknown. But why would Leia use her earring to mark Willi's wild oats with someone else? The earring isn't a specific sign of the Zane's, but of Leia's patronage/interests. Nami redhead could be Dylan's wild oats for all we know, Leia has no redhead gene with what Ocean mentioned about changes to WiaB (look at the recent devlogs in that thread, it's alarge topic, maybe 3-4 devlogs ago). Katie does from her dad though, and maybe that's why Katie is interested in Nami?
bad Ducky !
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No matter what the quality, I can still believe some choices are worse than others... personally Summer being absent keeps people wondering right? Why give that up, it worked for twin peaks and x-files right? It's free source of tension and intrigue that Ocean can mine as he digs deeper.a lot of wild speculations for an Avn that not even Ocean knows where it's going but what caught my attention the most is the fact that you Ducky , believe if Summer returns the story will become low grade writing ..... guess what ? Summer's gone , W.I.A.B and the rest of Avn story telling industry is low grade writing , this people are good creating images but they aren't writers , i'd bet you that 99% of them doesn't even know how to write a birthday card with more than 2 words in it.
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I believe most developers just write their plots on the go, which in retrospect is not a very good practice.a lot of wild speculations for an Avn that not even Ocean knows where it's going but what caught my attention the most is the fact that you Ducky , believe if Summer returns the story will become low grade writing ..... guess what ? Summer's gone , W.I.A.B and the rest of Avn story telling industry is low grade writing , this people are good creating images but they aren't writers , i'd bet you that 99% of them doesn't even know how to write a birthday card with more than 2 words in it.
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So there is potential for Sasha to be Ayua's sister-in-law
Or her bride
OOOOOOH, I like this idea! Don't know how much it is likely but I like it.
Miru agrees to teach them fight, I don't remember if is explicit stayed that is her family style, she speaks about showing a little, same as Auya, but I can be wrong. I don't know about Miru adopting William's bastards, given how fixed she is in have babys of her own I don't think she will gladly accept those of other woman, less if is one she did not consented to William sleep with. Too many variables and as always to little information to have a clear answer.
I am leaning more that Sasha knows "normal" fighting styles, with some insights of Miru techniques, as is Leia and Katie and only William and her directs descents knows the full style.
We know by the earning that Leia, and maybe to some extend the Zanes, as a interest in Nami and Sasha. Sasha already comes from a influential family and is friends with Auya. In my mind the question is what Sasha and Nami has in common, if anything, to both have Leia's earrings ? And what exactly it entails, can not be only protection, Sasha's family can provide protection it has to be a meaning beyond simply association.
In the Old WiaB Miru in did had a sister, now we don't know she might or might not. Now I don't know, I don't think Miru would accept William's bastards but I don't think it would mean that Sasha and Auya could not be friends. A lot of this depends in what happened in Where it all Began and what is the canon end, and that we don't know, is not that I think my version in more likely than yours, I am just saying the reasons that makes be disagree with you in this topic.
While I fully agree, and I have said it other times, a mystery is while as good as it reveals and Ocean has many in both os his stories. Not all of them needs to be reveled now or ever, but a story does not survives of only mystery, at some points he needs to start answer questions, I hope he can do it.No matter what the quality, I can still believe some choices are worse than others... personally Summer being absent keeps people wondering right? Why give that up, it worked for twin peaks and x-files right? It's free source of tension and intrigue that Ocean can mine as he digs deeper.
That is not true, granted I don't think any AVN will earn a Nobel or something like that, to say that all are low grading write is unfair... even if is true in 98.5% of the time. Summer's Gone is a good exemple, while is not extraordinary Ocean does knows how to write character and character interactions very well, is not perfect, but it is well written. I would not put it as the same generic " Fuck your family in their sleep 561651" game that exist.a lot of wild speculations for an Avn that not even Ocean knows where it's going but what caught my attention the most is the fact that you Ducky , believe if Summer returns the story will become low grade writing ..... guess what ? Summer's gone , W.I.A.B and the rest of Avn story telling industry is low grade writing , this people are good creating images but they aren't writers , i'd bet you that 99% of them doesn't even know how to write a birthday card with more than 2 words in it.
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The rework of the family situation in WiaB is done clearly because of Ocean bowing to Patreon to keep SG save. And it is a horrible decision storywise. Making Willi and Leia adopted (in addition to other changes) the story already starts to unravel at the seams, since the convoluted family situation is/was a major factor in the game. Many things do not make any sense anymore with how the rework of the background is going. In some cases there is suddenly a "why at all?" question how it happened.
Wiab is now quickly turning into a story with the stupid landlord/tennant situation thanks to Patreon. How long until Leia is not a LI anymore?
As said before, the secrets, mysteries and the convoluted family situation of the Zanes, Reveras and Petrovas were a major pull factor of WiaB.
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See, the question I have is what exactly is unravelling? Ocean has said old WiaB is not a guide for the new one since Ch1 rework appeared. What about the family situation is unravelled? We don't know the full story of why William left in current WiaB, we don't know much about the family relations other than Katie's allegations about William and Leia (which are still in play unless Ocean removes Leia as a LI). We've had one sentence about the change, and no actual info of how the Zane household is in Ch4, so it's crazy to say it's unravelled without actually seeing what direction Ocean's taking it. The only thing that has unravelled is people expectations based on the first version of WiaB. We have to see what Ch4 brings to the table to see if it has damaged more than expectations. I'm not denying the flow of the story will be different, but we can't judge it until we've played it.
Dana is the only landlord we know of. We don't know the household situation of the Zane's yet.
Regardless of what happens with the Zanes, the Reveras and Petrovas had no convoluted family issues. Elena was only introduced in Ch6 and had a cameo, with a cinematic at the end, there was no romance with her yet. Donna was the only Revera unless William got her pregnant, and we haven't gotten that far into the story of the rework to know if that's going to happen or not. So those secrets of how William and Leia allied with Elena and Donna are still as mysterious as before the rework, because there's no reveals yet.
Edit: Also, I got confused what thread I was in, I should've mentioned more katie for crossover cred.
Not sure about Dwight being Sasha's bodyguard. Also, would be strange for Ayua to be wanting dick pics if she was in a commited relationship with someone with as much of a resting bitch face as Sasha has (love it by the way, so serious). Dwight being Ayua's bf? Then why again is she into Nika's dick pics, and why does Dwight send randoms dick pics? Most likely Dwight is simply Sasha's brother. It'd be weird that he let Ayua get all drunk horny and talking about marriage with Nika otherwise.
Regarding the martial arts, it's simply that we don't know why knows the super special hadouken of Ayua's style. But Ayua can teach, and Miru can teach, that's why they have a studio, to teach. So it's almost irrelevant whether Sasha knows the secret technique, she's learning MMA of some sort, and she's good. Ayua will train Nika, in some form she knows, because that's what she does for a job. Again the secret technique is not needing to be a consideration. Miru teaching Leia to fight shows that Miru is willing to accept people close to William, even if she isn't certain about them yet, it's more showing that she's willing to accept people purely because William accepts them in some cases, which ties in with the idea that (potentially) Miru might accept the need to look out for William's wider wild oat crop. She might do that purely to keep WIlliam close.
Also, we don't know that Ayua's not being a silly drunk and pretending to be epic.
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Old WiaB's nija clan plot line might not even still be a thing.
The earring situation we'll keep second guessing and pondering for a while yet, that's going to be too valuable a secret for a little while yet. Vanessa knows it has meaning, Ayua and Sasha do, Nami does now, but didn't know when she got it. SOmething important is that Nami got the earring BEFORE the thing with Summer, so the earring is unrelated to Summer.
Mysteries of course can't multiply endlessly or we'll give up trying to understand. BUt some mysteries are more satisfying unsolved. Summer is one of those in my opinion. I like the idea of Nika uncovering more and more details, but never finding out the full story. At some point, reaching a decision to give up his LI or pursue the past, without any hint that he'll find Summer. Maybe it's foolish for me to hope for that narrative, but I like the idea.
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