VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

in three years of development the game has not advanced one meter, Ocean is a real scammer

November 2021, the current SG release was at ch3.5, ending with the date with Bella, for a total of 5395 renders.
Now, 3 years later we have Season 1 with 12095 renders.

...no advancement in the development? It's over twice the size it was then.

...or maybe there's just no lewds for you I guess - you couldn't see how many renders there were as you control clicked your way through.

 

[miltonlucifer]

in three years of development the game has not advanced one meter, Ocean is a real scammer

dude. the game is thrice the size it was. not that I care personally , I tried it 2 years ago, and tried it again a few weeks ago. there's a huge amount of content added since then.
Yes we all want stuff to come out faster.
but just like a book, writing isn't done overnight.

Faust took 60 years to write. And the ending of part one ends in one of the most frustrating cliffhanger in history of Litterature.

okay comparing SG to Faust is a fkin stretch I get that, but the boiled down process is the same.

just put it aside and play something else.
some stuff on steam is far more expensive for far less content. I'm not fanboying, that's just the reality of the creative process.
you can't rush it. regardless of how many patreons or purchases you get.

 

[AlexFXR]

November 2021, the current SG release was at ch3.5, ending with the date with Bella, for a total of 5395 renders.
Now, 3 years later we have Season 1 with 12095 renders.

...no advancement in the development? It's over twice the size it was then.

...or maybe there's just no lewds for you I guess - you couldn't see how many renders there were as you control clicked your way through.

Actually, he is absolutely right. A lot of fans are unhappy that Ocean makes a bunch of renders that don't make sense and I have already talked about this. In fact, there is a deliberate stretching of the game, since over these 3 years we have not received any important information and it turns out that the plot is in one place. Everything that Ocean has done over these 3 years can be placed in 1 update.

 

[Don Sucio]

November 2021, the current SG release was at ch3.5, ending with the date with Bella, for a total of 5395 renders.
Now, 3 years later we have Season 1 with 12095 renders.

...no advancement in the development? It's over twice the size it was then.

...or maybe there's just no lewds for you I guess - you couldn't see how many renders there were as you control clicked your way through.

That´s literally the problem. Most people complaining about Ocean being a scammer is that there aren´t sex scenes... And with that they think there is no progression...

Some people might be "angry" with Ocean with reasons but a scammer? Come on.

 

[alanrock]

We are here to worship Bella.
There are many other games for gallery unlock requests.

 

[PeopleCallMeSmile]

in three years of development the game has not advanced one meter, Ocean is a real scammer

Look at this dude

 

[AlexFXR]

Most people complaining about Ocean being a scammer is that there aren´t sex scenes...

Ocean is called a scammer not because of the lack of sex scenes, but because he breaks his promises, for which, by the way, he is paid a lot of money.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

We are here to worship Bella.
There are many other games for gallery unlock requests.

You spelled Nojiko wrong

 

[miltonlucifer]

You spelled Nojiko wrong
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I do wonder what kind of massage did she intend to give to MC before the mice invasion.

 

[miltonlucifer]

That´s literally the problem. Most people complaining about Ocean being a scammer is that there aren´t sex scenes... And with that they think there is no progression...

Some people might be "angry" with Ocean with reasons but a scammer? Come on.

to be fair, I downloaded that game for the spicy renders, ended my absolute favourite VN for the peronality and interactions of the characters.
I wouldn't even be mad if there were no sex scenes at all . I just want to know where the story goes (with Bella hehe).

 

[Don Sucio]

Ocean is called a scammer not because of the lack of sex scenes, but because he breaks his promises, for which, by the way, he is paid a lot of money.

Hi Alex...

If an old Patreon wants to call him a scammer for what he did with the rework i´m okay with that, i don´t see it that way but i can understand the feeling, but at this point of the story is just bullshit imo.

to be fair, I downloaded that game for the spicy renders, ended my absolute favourite VN for the peronality and interactions of the characters.
I wouldn't even be mad if there were no sex scenes at all . I just want to know where the story goes (with Bella hehe).

That´s exactly what happened to me , and i´m pretty sure to many people here too, so let´s enjoy the ride!

 

[miltonlucifer]

Hi Alex...
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If an old Patreon wants to call him a scammer for what he did with the rework i´m okay with that, i don´t see it that way but i can understand the feeling, but at this point of the story is just bullshit imo.


That´s exactly what happened to me , and i´m pretty sure to many people here too, so let´s enjoy the ride!

in 6 years on this site I never reacted or posted anywhere. turns out I liked the game so much that I just want to prolong the experience by talking about it. and Yes I bought the damn thing on steam. crazy. who says "black sail" stuff is detrimental to creators....

I remember I played it in 2022 or 2021. it was barely a proof of concept storywise. the difference in content with today is gargantuan.

 

[Pl@y3r]

I do wonder what kind of massage did she intend to give to MC before the mice invasion.

A normal one, what did you expect? I thought it was obvious by now that there's nothing between her and Nika, despite the sexualized (for no reason) scenes with her and that she's with Nick.

 

[miltonlucifer]

A normal one, what did you expect? I thought it was obvious by now that there's nothing between her and Nika, despite the sexualized (for no reason) scenes with her and that she's with Nick.

I was being facetious.

 

[AlexFXR]

Hi Alex...

If an old Patreon wants to call him a scammer for what he did with the rework i´m okay with that, i don´t see it that way but i can understand the feeling, but at this point of the story is just bullshit imo.

On Patreon, everything works a little differently. There are 5 points that you can't do, and if you violate them, you will immediately get the brand of a milker or a scammer.

1. Reworks. Previously, many dishonest developers used reworks to get money for years without making new content.
2. Frequent excuses. Again, dishonest developers came up with different reasons not to make the game and get money for free. For example, the developer constantly moves and uses this as an excuse. Or there were developers who were constantly sick and even asked for money for treatment in their logs. But in fact, it turned out that they were not sick, they were just collecting money from fans, etc.
3. Slowing down the development of the game. The developer stops working on the plot of the game and its development. This happens mainly due to the lack of imagination of the developer and he simply does not know what to do next. Therefore, he makes an update that does not make sense, just to get money. Previously, such people were called milkers, now fans simply consider the game dead and leave.
4. Promises. Previously, and even now, dishonest developers make all sorts of promises just to collect more money from fans. Therefore, normal developers try not to make any promises at all. A promise is the first sign of a scammer, but if you make a promise, you must definitely fulfill it.
5. Begging for money. I think there is no need to explain anything here.

 

[Fun Shaundi]

Eternum, BaDIK, Artemis, Halfway House and Color of My Sound (Just to name a few) are a couple of VNs that deliver updates at the same pace as SG (and some even have less renders), but only Ocean is the scammer?
C'mon, Alex.
You're in the right to criticize aspects you don't like about the game or things you think that could improve, I also do that and I don't always agree with Ocean and some of his artistic choices. But just accusing him and only him of something that many devs with good quality work do as well? You can't be serious.

 

[The Krogan Dude]

Eternum, BaDIK, Artemis, Halfway House and Color of My Sound (Just to name a few) are a couple of VNs that deliver updates at the same pace as SG (and some even have less renders), but only Ocean is the scammer?
C'mon, Alex.
You're in the right to criticize aspects you don't like about the game or things you think that could improve, I also do that and I don't always agree with Ocean and some of his artistic choices. But just accusing him and only him of something that many devs with good quality work do as well? You can't be serious.

I'd like to add Ocean's dev logs are more instructive. I learned a lot about taxation in Germany.

 

[Matt2012021]

Scammer yeah just don't see it unless when chapter 2 drops and it's 10 mins long but really does anyone see that happening no the dude just has to get used to long development cycle or move on and stop crying

 

[alanrock]

Scammers are losing their grip with every € that Ocean earns...

 

[Old Man Al]

Eternum, BaDIK, Artemis, Halfway House and Color of My Sound (Just to name a few) are a couple of VNs that deliver updates at the same pace as SG (and some even have less renders), but only Ocean is the scammer?
C'mon, Alex.
You're in the right to criticize aspects you don't like about the game or things you think that could improve, I also do that and I don't always agree with Ocean and some of his artistic choices. But just accusing him and only him of something that many devs with good quality work do as well? You can't be serious.

What do you expect of a guy that posted the 5 commandments of Patreon given to him by god itself just one post before yours?