Don Sucio

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Cannot agree more.

In my opinion, these bonus renders and pin-ups and whatever are nothing but a gimmick created to justify the active subscription model in the 2-11 months of the year where the dev doesn't put out an update. Fuck that! Wouldn't wipe my ass with any render no matter how good it is. My interest lies in the story and characters. Not renders, polls, devlogs (even those containing tax updates) or 10 second animation loops.

I'd rather sub to 10 devs once a year in the month their content is released than keep a 10 month sub to a single dev.

The exception would be if the dev were someone I know irl and really wanted to support. But I don't know any of those. No hate to anyone who wants to show extended support to a dev and enjoy the rewards, I just don't see the value in that.
I think devlogs are very important, more if you are a Patreon (my case) because i need to know in what he is spending the money or if he is progressing or just taking money for almost any work. The devlogs i don´t understand too much are the tax devlogs, i´m not interested in how Germany takes his money or things like that but i appreciate his honesty :LOL:
 

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I think devlogs are very important, more if you are a Patreon (my case) because i need to know in what he is spending the money or if he is progressing or just taking money for almost any work. The devlogs i don´t understand too much are the tax devlogs, i´m not interested in how Germany takes his money or things like that but i appreciate his honesty :LOL:
Absolutely! Devlogs are incredibly important for subs. This is one of the areas where Ocean deserves major praise. I sub to devs on SS that don't post anything for months at a time. That shit shouldn't be encouraged. Even if they almost always reply to PM's and are somewhat active on their Discords.
 

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I'm not active on this thread, so I don't know if someone already asked/answered it, but there is any estimated release date of this game or WiAB?
Not complaining or demanding anything, it's just that I've been meaning to replay them and I feel like one of them must be close to another update, so it would be better to wait of that's the case.
 

BobTheDuck

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I'm not active on this thread, so I don't know if someone already asked/answered it, but there is any estimated release date of this game or WiAB?
Not complaining or demanding anything, it's just that I've been meaning to replay them and I feel like one of them must be close to another update, so it would be better to wait of that's the case.
We've only got guesses at the moment - WiaB was going to get a devlog with a render count this week, but... Ocean posted Sasha wallpapers rather than a devlog. At this point I'm hoping WiaB might creep in by the end of the year and SGmaybe 3-5 months after that. That's still being pretty hopeful based on the anticipated sizes.

A proper render count for WiaB would mean Ocean has pretty much mapped out all the scenes and knows exactly all the renders he wants, right now we've only been give broad esitmates of how much has been done.
 

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We've only got guesses at the moment - WiaB was going to get a devlog with a render count this week, but... Ocean posted Sasha wallpapers rather than a devlog. At this point I'm hoping WiaB might creep in by the end of the year and SGmaybe 3-5 months after that. That's still being pretty hopeful based on the anticipated sizes.

A proper render count for WiaB would mean Ocean has pretty much mapped out all the scenes and knows exactly all the renders he wants, right now we've only been give broad esitmates of how much has been done.
Haha your assumptions become later and later bob. But i think this is realistic just that i suspect it will be january for wiab probably.
 

BobTheDuck

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Haha your assumptions become later and later bob. But i think this is realistic just that i suspect it will be january for wiab probably.
Well, yeah, gotta keep revising my opinion every week there's no devlog. If SG is done by May, it's still the most productive development cycle Ocean's had, and if WiaB scrapes in by the end of 2024, that's huge, and not just from the size of these two updates. :)
 

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Well, yeah, gotta keep revising my opinion every week there's no devlog. If SG is done by May, it's still the most productive development cycle Ocean's had, and if WiaB scrapes in by the end of 2024, that's huge, and not just from the size of these two updates. :)
for sure, with both games will be something like 10k renders in more or less a year. I am holding hope for WiaB in 2024 but more likely it will be released in january/ february and SG by march/abril or even may. Still will be a huge update for both games in a year times.


Maybe the devlog is late cause Ocean is reading the render count and projecting how much is left until is done. Or we will have a new chapter on the taxes saga, or insights on boobs physics.
 
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vampires69'in

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for sure, with both games will be something like 10k renders in more or less a year. I am holding hope for WiaB in 2024 but more likely it will be released in january/ february and SG by march/abril or even may. Still will be a huge update for both games in a year times.


Maybe the devlog is late cause Ocean is reading the render count and projecting how much is left until is done. Or we will have a new chapter on the taxes saga, or insights on boobs physics.
Like on the beginning...lol unnamed.gif
 
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BobTheDuck

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Not gonna lie, Sasha is one of my favourites, but this render is far sexier to me than the Vieled Whisper set ...probably because it's in character, while the new set feel like a different personality.

But news about Katie solves more emergencies than Sasha renders. :coffee::whistle:

for sure, with both games will be something like 10k renders in more or less a year. I am holding hope for WiaB in 2024 but more likely it will be released in january/ february and SG by march/abril or even may. Still will be a huge update for both games in a year times.


Maybe the devlog is late cause Ocean is reading the render count and projecting how much is left until is done. Or we will have a new chapter on the taxes saga, or insights on boobs physics.
I'm tempering my expectations anyway. Ocean's never gone more than a year between updates of some nature, so he'll be pushing himself to get S2Ch1 done by May. WiaB will be overdue for a release - since the reboot, every leak has been in November, but there were the issues of Ocean losing WiaB's patreon around the last update sometime, and the ch3 Full was released in Jan. It would be nice to have something around during the holidays, but I think this year it's just wishful.
 

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probably because it's in character, while the new set feel like a different personality.

But news about Katie solves more emergencies than Sasha renders. :coffee::whistle:
Can't say I'm fond of those fantasy/horror-themed custom renders for VNs without those tags, I prefer a dev log instead.

As for Katie, I hope she'll attend every book club session from now on. Looks like she and Nika have stuff to talk about, though Nojiko won't like it.
 

BobTheDuck

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Can't say I'm fond of those fantasy/horror-themed custom renders for VNs without those tags, I prefer a dev log instead.

As for Katie, I hope she'll attend every book club session from now on. Looks like she and Nika have stuff to talk about, though Nojiko won't like it.
Well, Katie will show up at Sasha's in-game photoshoot from the looks of a recent devlog, which makes sense as the college's designer, she'd be required for the visuals of the photoshoot. She promised that Nika would see her around anyway, so it seems to me she'll have far more impact than a cameo. Gotta remember the first time we know Katie is actually in the game rather than being talked about is when we see her car outside the college. She's also the one approving Hill and Stahl's basketball fantasy/plot, and seeing Hill was headhunting Nika for years, from before Summer disappeared... :WeSmart:
 

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Well, Katie will show up at Sasha's in-game photoshoot from the looks of a recent devlog, which makes sense as the college's designer, she'd be required for the visuals of the photoshoot. She promised that Nika would see her around anyway, so it seems to me she'll have far more impact than a cameo. Gotta remember the first time we know Katie is actually in the game rather than being talked about is when we see her car outside the college. She's also the one approving Hill and Stahl's basketball fantasy/plot, and seeing Hill was headhunting Nika for years, from before Summer disappeared... :WeSmart:
Regarding that photoshoot, from what I've seen Sasha doesn't look too happy about it. It's like she only agreed to it for her family's reputation.
 

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Regarding that photoshoot, from what I've seen Sasha doesn't look too happy about it. It's like she only agreed to it for her family's reputation.
Or she simply feels insulted that Karen is checking her out to see if she's got a shapely enough figure - I'm not sure I've ever seen a professor/teacher look at a student's breasts without getting fired/sent to jail.
 

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I dunno mate.
I understand vic is central to the story, and I do like the story very much, but Vic is .... to vanilla ... too ... sanitized? too archetypal? (I know she does not do "only cute things"). She strikes really much as the base vanilla "white dove" character. I hope she will have a darker side to her. (as it's hinted with her desire to look around maja's toys).

Apologies for my english. I hope I got my point across.
Vic is a willing to let her freak fly. She lets Nami kiss on her, lets her naked boobs on the MCs face, kisses Mila, lets the MC take her pants down in the bathroom when she has 2 women right next to her. Vic is a fully exploring her sexual side. Gotta say her putting the dildo on the MCs face was funny.
 

LHDLLB

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Of course, what I meant is that she doesn't seem to be the type of girl who wants to be in the spotlight.
Not that I disagree, but what we really know about Sasha ? Aside from her problems with married - and I assume- much older man we don't really know nothing about Sasha, we assume a lot of things but know very little.

Especially with a significant male gaze. I can't see her being happy about that in the least.
Case in point. This is a very fair interpretations given her history and dialogues, but when receiving the new uniforms Sasha has nothing to say about it, nor does she has a render showing how she is uncomfortable being exposed, as do Sonya, and although she does not dresses seeking the male gaze, is not like she is actively repelling it. Sasha so far is a mirror that we can project whatever we want - curious how in the book club her conversation with Nika revolves around projection- some of what we think will be true, is not like she is completely empty, but she also is not as defined as Bella or Nami or Zara.

So a photoshoot, professionally made, in a safe environment as a art project is not something inconceivable, maybe Sasha wants to be a model, Mila wants to play golf, Zara tennis maybe modeling is Sasha's dream, we simply don't know.
 
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