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LHDLLB

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Well, I'll be damned. I already liked her, now she's moving up the ranks. :BootyTime:
Nia is lovely. Other LI that I did not care until she got her little time. Easy top 5 for me. Not long ago Ocean spoke about each girl dedicated fetish and although is very early to tell I think that exhibitionism is a very safe bet in Nia's route, maybe voyeurism as well. For other is more hard to tell. Vic maybe cuckqueen ? Zara maybe something with degrading ? I don't really think it fits neither character or tone of the story but maybe some fucked up cope mechanism because of her mother abuse ? Milla and Bella I don't have a clue.
 

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Nia is lovely. Other LI that I did not care until she got her little time. Easy top 5 for me. Not long ago Ocean spoke about each girl dedicated fetish and although is very early to tell I think that exhibitionism is a very safe bet in Nia's route, maybe voyeurism as well. For other is more hard to tell. Vic maybe cuckqueen ? Zara maybe something with degrading ? I don't really think it fits neither character or tone of the story but maybe some fucked up cope mechanism because of her mother abuse ? Milla and Bella I don't have a clue.
Yeah, Nia rose into my top 5 after her scene. Also every girl has 1-4 fetishes ocean said on discord, and matters more then dom/sub he said. The fetishes would change things not necessarily dom/sub aspects. So I am curious what they are for all the Li. I feel like nami has facesitting as one.
 
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Yeah, Nia rose into my top 5 after her scene. Also every girl has 1-4 fetishes ocean said on discord, and matters more then dom/sub he said. The fetishes would change things not necessarily dom/sub aspects. So I am curious what they are for all the Li. I feel like nami has facesitting as one.
That seems like a ridiculous amount of branching, so every girl has up to 4 fetishes plus one sub and dom path ? the fetishes are kinda easy to implement you either see the content or don't but the dom and sub routes are more difficult I think and the game has like 13 LIs already. I am too but we are a long way from that. I think that Nami might be one of most kinky ones, but we are counting facesitting as a fetish ? Seems more like a sex position to me, it plays into femdom but not necessarily I think.
 

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I feel like nami has facesitting as one.
Seems more like a sex position to me, it plays into femdom but not necessarily I think.
You never know, after all, look at the discrete categories the 'hub has available. I think it's a very safe bet (despite reworks and the like) that she's still very much an incest fan. I can't support the foot thing, though, no matter how great she is. Not my kink, and I'll absolutely look at people funny when they say it's theirs.

Based on her general behavior, I wouldn't be surprised at all if she finds herself happiest in a threesome.
 

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You never know, after all, look at the discrete categories the 'hub has available. I think it's a very safe bet (despite reworks and the like) that she's still very much an incest fan. I can't support the foot thing, though, no matter how great she is. Not my kink, and I'll absolutely look at people funny when they say it's theirs.

Based on her general behavior, I wouldn't be surprised at all if she finds herself happiest in a threesome.
I mean, what really makes something a fetish ? Not a easy answer I think. I don't think that porn categories equals a fetish, does it ? We have to come to terms that there is not gonna be incest in SG or WiaB, Ocean will not even mention it as a joke, too much risk. Foot is not my thing either but I can live with it, like is fine, don't hate don't love it. Armpits are bit funny though but I don't wanna to kinkyshame anyone.

Nami ? threesome ? I really don't think so. The girl was eyeing Zara for the piggyback thing, and that was friendly. Don't think that Nami would be open to it. I still can not see how the Bella/Nami throuple can happen.
 
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That seems like a ridiculous amount of branching, so every girl has up to 4 fetishes plus one sub and dom path ? the fetishes are kinda easy to implement you either see the content or don't but the dom and sub routes are more difficult I think and the game has like 13 LIs already. I am too but we are a long way from that. I think that Nami might be one of most kinky ones, but we are counting facesitting as a fetish ? Seems more like a sex position to me, it plays into femdom but not necessarily I think.
I don't think it will be a ridiculous amount of branching. I think I might of worded it wrong, he said every Li has a little bit fo dom/sub, but he bigger differences are the Fetishes.

Fetishes would probably only matter in sexual scenes, so not too much branching, and with him saying every Li has a bit of dom/sub don't think those will make as huge of a difference, maybe just some small differences. Also I think Ocean said Vanessa will either be a dom or equals wirh MC.

Also I don't know what counts as a fetish to Ocean. I just speculated facesitting, cause Nami sits on your face at one point. But unsure if that is counted as a fetish or not.
 
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So I was in a mood and took this as a excuse to do a little replay, and also see if I was remembering this scene right, having just replayed it, I can't really put that much weigh on it. I completely get you point, and I agree, but maybe I am the fucked up here, I don't see anything serious here. Sure, it is a crime, but I can't really see anything significant here. I agree with your overhaul argument that Bella was left out of the hook too many times, but in this particular scene I just can't fault her.

He falls to the side and do not seems hurt in any way. For the rest I fully agree, the game teases a lot of things, both story wise and lewdly. Actions have consequences, Bella's canon race, Nami's past. Nia fivesome, Vanessa femdom, Nami's foot fetish. Unfortunately it kinda goes to the too early to tell. They meet because Stephan has call up Bella to a meting, maybe he will try to blackmail her or something ? consequence to her actions could be more closer than we might think. We can only wait and see.

While replaying one thing pop up on my mind. Ceril is specifically targeting Bella for the ilegal racing and Bella thinks - maybe correctly- that it is because of Amber. The thing is, Bella is not the only rich kid racing. We know that Ayua is also another rich kid who is involved with it and we don't get even a suggestion that she is being target. Now she is being protected because she is a Zane ? Is Bella being target for being a Von Halen ? Both could be true, but if Ceril only wants the glorious of bring down a prestigious family name, why not going after both ? Sure, the Von Halen may be more prestigious but the Zanes are not a insignificant family.
Almost forgot a simple reply: I understand your point, and I don't think you're messed up for thinking it - Ocean has let both Bella and Nika off the hook so far. But a crime is a crime, regardless of justification. Bella knows it, and she knows Ceril is after her. Wisdom would say, "what if Ceril is still watching me? What if she's just around the corner?" Bella's lack of caution about her illegal habits makes it seem like they're nothing.

Regarding Ceril, she could simply be after Bella because of Melanie holding a grudge because Bella didn't allow herself to be bullied enough. Evil people are evil at times. Ceril might be a good cop, but the way she sniffs NIka makes her seem more of a villian and more unhinged than Bella. It could just be a personal grudge back from when Amber reported Melanie to the school - nothing about the prestige involved. But we also don't know who Bella's father is, so there's all kinds of potential reasons.

That seems like a ridiculous amount of branching, so every girl has up to 4 fetishes plus one sub and dom path ? the fetishes are kinda easy to implement you either see the content or don't but the dom and sub routes are more difficult I think and the game has like 13 LIs already. I am too but we are a long way from that. I think that Nami might be one of most kinky ones, but we are counting facesitting as a fetish ? Seems more like a sex position to me, it plays into femdom but not necessarily I think.
A fetish doesn't have to be super kinky. Like, Mila having a pee fetish or Scat fetish should 100% be optional, but if she has a headpatting fetish or a voyeur fetish, that wouldn't require extra renders, it'd just colour her lewd scenes differently to Vanessa. Vanessa's lewd scenes will likely 100% have a level of dominant talk, because that's part of her character even on the equal path she'd likely want to get the upperhand, but I'm sure any fetish specific thing will be optional to witness or not.

I guess what I'm suggesting is that some of the fetishes will just be part of a character's personality, and the more extreme ones (if there are) will likely be the optional renders, maybe extending a scene or maybe as an alternative scene. But seeing Ocean's already forced us to witness handholding in public, who knows how depraved it'll get???
 
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Nami ? threesome ? I really don't think so. The girl was eyeing Zara for the piggyback thing, and that was friendly. Don't think that Nami would be open to it. I still can not see how the Bella/Nami throuple can happen.
Indeed, there's no way Nami would agree to a threesome.
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But seriously, I don't think she'd mind that kind of interaction. On the contrary, she'll be very much for it, if it's girls she "approves" of (like Victoria and Nia). She only becomes slightly more hostile if she starts to feel threatened by her rival. She's afraid that MC will "leave her in the rain" for a new fling like he did with Summer.
 

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I don't think it will be a ridiculous amount of branching. I think I might of worded it wrong, he said every Li has a little bit fo dom/sub, but he bigger differences are the Fetishes.

Fetishes would probably only matter in sexual scenes, so not too much branching, and with him saying every Li has a bit of dom/sub don't think those will make as huge of a difference, maybe just some small differences. Also I think Ocean said Vanessa will either be a dom or equals wirh MC.

Also I don't know what counts as a fetish to Ocean. I just speculated facesitting, cause Nami sits on your face at one point. But unsure if that is counted as a fetish or not.
Oh, got you now. Seem a lot more reasonable. Fetishes are more easy to implement. Yeah, Vanessa is either dom or equal to you and I think it works perfectly for her character, her relationship looks like will be a battle and I am all in for that. Or she will crush you. Yeah, I mean I don't really want to enter in a discussion of what is a fetish or not. If it works to you, I think it is ? Just that I never thought of facesitting in that way, sounds like saying I have a missionary fetish or a 69 one.

Almost forgot a simple reply: I understand your point, and I don't think you're messed up for thinking it - Ocean has let both Bella and Nika off the hook so far. But a crime is a crime, regardless of justification. Bella knows it, and she knows Ceril is after her. Wisdom would say, "what if Ceril is still watching me? What if she's just around the corner?" Bella's lack of caution about her illegal habits makes it seem like they're nothing.

Regarding Ceril, she could simply be after Bella because of Melanie holding a grudge because Bella didn't allow herself to be bullied enough. Evil people are evil at times. Ceril might be a good cop, but the way she sniffs NIka makes her seem more of a villian and more unhinged than Bella. It could just be a personal grudge back from when Amber reported Melanie to the school - nothing about the prestige involved. But we also don't know who Bella's father is, so there's all kinds of potential reasons.



A fetish doesn't have to be super kinky. Like, Mila having a pee fetish or Scat fetish should 100% be optional, but if she has a headpatting fetish or a voyeur fetish, that wouldn't require extra renders, it'd just colour her lewd scenes differently to Vanessa. Vanessa's lewd scenes will likely 100% have a level of dominant talk, because that's part of her character even on the equal path she'd likely want to get the upperhand, but I'm sure any fetish specific thing will be optional to witness or not.

I guess what I'm suggesting is that some of the fetishes will just be part of a character's personality, and the more extreme ones (if there are) will likely be the optional renders, maybe extending a scene or maybe as an alternative scene. But seeing Ocean's already forced us to witness handholding in public, who knows how depraved it'll get???
Thank you, that is a bit reassuring. The fact that Bella is so nonchalant about her behavior, is definitely a plot point, and is not only about her ilegal activities. She is over confrontational and too emotional. Above all she is reckless, by committing a crime hours after Ceril scene, by taunting the guys, the cannon race, the home invasion, Vanessa plans. Bella do not think things through, she is not stupid but she is not giving a fuck. I doubt that it will not come to bite her in the ass. Maybe not all of those things but her behavior in general will lead to some fuck up, maybe even with Nika.

Yeah, the scene makes it clear that is about Amber, Amber being a celebrity in certain circles. With may be true. But is Amber that much more of a "celebrity" than Leia, William and Kate ? Would not Ayua be just as good candidate ?

Oh I agree, and it gives each girl personality. Often in AVNs every LI becomes a pornstar the moment the MC fucks her, up to anything. That is fine but I really like the idea of LIs having favorite kinky that the player might like or not, and of course everything should be optional. Can't get more depraved than public hand holding, truly disgusting.


Indeed, there's no way Nami would agree to a threesome.
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But seriously, I don't think she'd mind that kind of interaction. On the contrary, she'll be very much for it, if it's girls she "approves" of (like Victoria and Nia). She only becomes slightly more hostile if she starts to feel threatened by her rival. She's afraid that MC will "leave her in the rain" for a new fling like he did with Summer.
I don't know. I think I might have a very different view of Nami than most, and either I am really right or really wrong. I think that Ocean changed it, but Nami once offered to be your wigwoman to Mila, but she still gets jealous of her. I am not saying that she would never do, I think that Nami might do anything to keep MC at her side, what I am saying that she would not like it very much. Nia we know is up to a fivesome, Nami ? Seems like the girl on the meme: " I bet he is thinking of other women."
 

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Oh, got you now. Seem a lot more reasonable. Fetishes are more easy to implement. Yeah, Vanessa is either dom or equal to you and I think it works perfectly for her character, her relationship looks like will be a battle and I am all in for that. Or she will crush you. Yeah, I mean I don't really want to enter in a discussion of what is a fetish or not. If it works to you, I think it is ? Just that I never thought of facesitting in that way, sounds like saying I have a missionary fetish or a 69 one.



Thank you, that is a bit reassuring. The fact that Bella is so nonchalant about her behavior, is definitely a plot point, and is not only about her ilegal activities. She is over confrontational and too emotional. Above all she is reckless, by committing a crime hours after Ceril scene, by taunting the guys, the cannon race, the home invasion, Vanessa plans. Bella do not think things through, she is not stupid but she is not giving a fuck. I doubt that it will not come to bite her in the ass. Maybe not all of those things but her behavior in general will lead to some fuck up, maybe even with Nika.

Yeah, the scene makes it clear that is about Amber, Amber being a celebrity in certain circles. With may be true. But is Amber that much more of a "celebrity" than Leia, William and Kate ? Would not Ayua be just as good candidate ?

Oh I agree, and it gives each girl personality. Often in AVNs every LI becomes a pornstar the moment the MC fucks her, up to anything. That is fine but I really like the idea of LIs having favorite kinky that the player might like or not, and of course everything should be optional. Can't get more depraved than public hand holding, truly disgusting.




I don't know. I think I might have a very different view of Nami than most, and either I am really right or really wrong. I think that Ocean changed it, but Nami once offered to be your wigwoman to Mila, but she still gets jealous of her. I am not saying that she would never do, I think that Nami might do anything to keep MC at her side, what I am saying that she would not like it very much. Nia we know is up to a fivesome, Nami ? Seems like the girl on the meme: " I bet he is thinking of other women."
About Amber: Bella thinks of Amber as someone special, which is why Nika says:

d "Ohhh, now I get it... Your mother is holy."

So Bella could just be thinking that Ceril would love the prestige of charging Amber's daughter. BUt when we find out from Mila how Bella was bullied by Melanie Ceril:

mi "And Melanie picked on Bella because Amber complained about Melanie at the school."

It could just as easily be a petty grudge, the older sister, the whole family having a grudge against the Von Halen's. Or not, it could be something we don't know yet. There's not enough explanation, and Bella's not reliable as a character witness :sneaky:

About Nami, she gets upset because Nika opens up to her, then starts playing the field. If there's no change of perception, the scenes are different from memory. It's natural that the very same day Nika says he's noticed her in a different way, Nika might go with Bella, Nika might kiss Mila, and Zara is affectionate to him when the day before she wanted to kill him. Nami's emotions will have been on an absolute rollercoaster in that situation - the night before she was pretending she was normal, but almost started kissing Nika in a fourway pash, the next day Nika confesses feelings, then he kisses other girls in front of her in less than 12 hours. She's GOT to doubt his sincerity. ON the other hand, she will be Nika's wingman and joke if there's no change of perception. She's completely able to be part of things by the way she accepts Vic and Nia. Much the same as Mila or Kate acting different if Nika's kissed Bella or not. I think the rumours will play a significant part in changing the perception of relationships.
 
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About Amber: Bella thinks of Amber as someone special, which is why Nika says:

d "Ohhh, now I get it... Your mother is holy."

So Bella could just be thinking that Ceril would love the prestige of charging Amber's daughter. BUt when we find out from Mila how Bella was bullied by Melanie Ceril:

mi "And Melanie picked on Bella because Amber complained about Melanie at the school."

It could just as easily be a petty grudge, the older sister, the whole family having a grudge against the Von Halen's. Or not, it could be something we don't know yet. There's not enough explanation, and Bella's not reliable as a character witness :sneaky:

About Nami, she gets upset because Nika opens up to her, then starts playing the field. If there's no change of perception, the scenes are different from memory. It's natural that the very same day Nika says he's noticed her in a different way, Nika might go with Bella, Nika might kiss Mila, and Zara is affectionate to him when the day before she wanted to kill him. Nami's emotions will have been on an absolute rollercoaster in that situation - the night before she was pretending she was normal, but almost started kissing Nika in a fourway pash, the next day Nika confesses feelings, then he kisses other girls in front of her in less than 12 hours. She's GOT to doubt his sincerity. ON the other hand, she will be Nika's wingman and joke if there's no change of perception. She's completely able to be part of things by the way she accepts Vic and Nia. Much the same as Mila or Kate acting different if Nika's kissed Bella or not. I think the rumours will play a significant part in changing the perception of relationships.
You might be right about Bella, maybe I am give her too much credit. Still, after replaying the scene... something is bugging me. I think something is up there.

About Nami you are absolutely right. I am not saying that she does not has a reason to be jealous, she does and she is the one with most different dialogues if you are on her route, if you don't incentive her she will not make innuendos or show jealousy. Nami cam be just your good old rommie, if you are not on her path. If you are, we learn a bit more about her and what we learn makes me think that Nami is a lot more calculative than we might think. So when I see the foursome kiss scene, I think that Nami is just seizing a opportunity, right after it on the walk to the pizza she talks about kissing Nika. We have the no longer canon talk about helping Nika to learn how to eat pussy. I think that Nami is a very pratical person and while Nika engaging with other females helped her in any way she was glad to accept it, when it doesn't she very much don't like it. Maybe I am being unfair to the Cheeto, but I don't think that Nami is just a goofy bubble airhead.
 

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You might be right about Bella, maybe I am give her too much credit. Still, after replaying the scene... something is bugging me. I think something is up there.

About Nami you are absolutely right. I am not saying that she does not has a reason to be jealous, she does and she is the one with most different dialogues if you are on her route, if you don't incentive her she will not make innuendos or show jealousy. Nami cam be just your good old rommie, if you are not on her path. If you are, we learn a bit more about her and what we learn makes me think that Nami is a lot more calculative than we might think. So when I see the foursome kiss scene, I think that Nami is just seizing a opportunity, right after it on the walk to the pizza she talks about kissing Nika. We have the no longer canon talk about helping Nika to learn how to eat pussy. I think that Nami is a very pratical person and while Nika engaging with other females helped her in any way she was glad to accept it, when it doesn't she very much don't like it. Maybe I am being unfair to the Cheeto, but I don't think that Nami is just a goofy bubble airhead.
Obviously these are only speculations, I believe that Nami aims to mitigate, for lack of a better definition, Nika's negative aura. Seen together they are almost a comic duo
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My guess is based on two scenes:
-I don't remember exactly when but during a discussion between Nami and Nika we discover that in the past Nami has been particularly manipulative (perhaps in a less cruel way than Nika but it remains)
-When Nami accompanies Nika to the hospital, and gets angry with him, confesses that she does everything to make sure people don't hate him
 

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-I don't remember exactly when but during a discussion between Nami and Nika we discover that in the past Nami has been particularly manipulative (perhaps in a less cruel way than Nika but it remains)
It's discussed in therapy with Amber and with Nami if you take her on the walk. Furthering you idea, there's the scene where Nami says she won't let you face monsters in the dark, if you don't go breaking and entering with Bella. I think it works both as a symbol for the current situation, but her broader story and the way she interacts with Nika.

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