VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Dr.TSoni]

Yes, but maybe some stuff still is in it ? The story was wrote with it in mind and this could be the original reason why Marla wanted the shared therapy and now we will have a new one. Maybe not, is just a thought

Yes, I'm afraid that's a possibility

Nah, he just leav them to be handled by the proper criminals. Nika's not chad enough to touch guns while he's still spaghetti. We already know Bella will run over anyone standing in her way, might as well let her look after the Weapons of Marla Destruction

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I'm not convinced

 

[BobTheDuck]

Yes, I'm afraid that's a possibility


I'm not convinced
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I mean, he DID chad up by this render already. Maybe he can be meatballs instead of spaghetti now.

Edit: On a serious note, Ocean's supposedly had Marla's story mor concrete than a lot of the others based on his reason for making her a LI. Her LI status and connection to Nika isn't dependent on the gun scene with this in mind.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

On a serious note, Ocean's supposedly had Marla's story mor concrete than a lot of the others based on his reason for making her a LI. Her LI status and connection to Nika isn't dependent on the gun scene with this in mind.

With Ocean everything is possible XD
But more than anything, the hole in Nika's memory should be small and specific in the time frame from Summer's "disappearance" and a short period thereafter. So it's a little strange to me that Nica already knew Marla and then forgot about her.

 

[Ilhares]

I feel like I either missed something significantly, or maybe I only remember an older version of the game. I thought there were hints originally that it was street racers who hit Vic, not Marla. Am I losing my mind?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I feel like I either missed something significantly, or maybe I only remember an older version of the game. I thought there were hints originally that it was street racers who hit Vic, not Marla. Am I losing my mind?

The first time I played, it seemed to me too that someone else had hit her and Marla had stopped to help her. But in the latest update Nika talks about having no respect for teachers who run over their students

 

[LHDLLB]

I mean, he DID chad up by this render already. Maybe he can be meatballs instead of spaghetti now.

Edit: On a serious note, Ocean's supposedly had Marla's story mor concrete than a lot of the others based on his reason for making her a LI. Her LI status and connection to Nika isn't dependent on the gun scene with this in mind.

Do he talked about his reasons to make her a LI ? I agree with you on the rest, my point on the shared therapy was that it is a possibility that originally her reasons might have been related to the gun incident and whether you shoot her or not. But all the others reasons are just as valid.

I feel like I either missed something significantly, or maybe I only remember an older version of the game. I thought there were hints originally that it was street racers who hit Vic, not Marla. Am I losing my mind?

I don't think so. Was always Marla who hit Vic, what I have see is some theory that it was not her fault but because of the strett race she lost control of the car.

 

[BobTheDuck]

With Ocean everything is possible XD
But more than anything, the hole in Nika's memory should be small and specific in the time frame from Summer's "disappearance" and a short period thereafter. So it's a little strange to me that Nica already knew Marla and then forgot about her.

I don't mean that they had met. Marla could know Nika without him being aware.

..like if she was the hit and run that killed the Cyrus's and every other person in a motor accident in Wollust.

Or more seriously, if she was Summer's aunt, she'd know who he is because of what happened maybe. Remember that Coach Hill was stalking Nika in his pre SUmmer days, keeping tabs on him. PLenty of different reasons, doesn't have to be a gap in his memory, just people he is unaware of, like he was unaware of Nia (which makes you wonder why SUmmer being such a good friend to Nia didn't get Nika and Nami to her party etc).

I feel like I either missed something significantly, or maybe I only remember an older version of the game. I thought there were hints originally that it was street racers who hit Vic, not Marla. Am I losing my mind?

Every version I've played has Marla getting out of the car, the gun was always her gun. I can't remember the very first release (the earliest I kept was Ch2), every version I remember is her.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I don't mean that they had met. Marla could know Nika without him being aware.

..like if she was the hit and run that killed the Cyrus's and every other person in a motor accident in Wollust.

Or more seriously, if she was Summer's aunt, she'd know who he is because of what happened maybe. Remember that Coach Hill was stalking Nika in his pre SUmmer days, keeping tabs on him. PLenty of different reasons, doesn't have to be a gap in his memory, just people he is unaware of, like he was unaware of Nia (which makes you wonder why SUmmer being such a good friend to Nia didn't get Nika and Nami to her party etc).

It makes sense, but doesn't that risk making everything too interconnected?
In the sense, this is already a "sequel", there is almost certainly some connection with the Zanes given Katie's continuous appearances. Wouldn't adding this type of link with the LI be excessive?

 

[LHDLLB]

I don't mean that they had met. Marla could know Nika without him being aware.

..like if she was the hit and run that killed the Cyrus's and every other person in a motor accident in Wollust.

Or more seriously, if she was Summer's aunt, she'd know who he is because of what happened maybe. Remember that Coach Hill was stalking Nika in his pre SUmmer days, keeping tabs on him. PLenty of different reasons, doesn't have to be a gap in his memory, just people he is unaware of, like he was unaware of Nia (which makes you wonder why SUmmer being such a good friend to Nia didn't get Nika and Nami to her party etc).



Every version I've played has Marla getting out of the car, the gun was always her gun. I can't remember the very first release (the earliest I kept was Ch2), every version I remember is her.

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Didn't Summer's family think of Nika as trash though ? At least her parents did and I can not think that Elsa parents are much better. If Marla is Elsa's mom she is a terrible person, plus I think would make more sense having Elsa at ZPR then. She could be the good aunt that we don't know but at this point I have to agree with Dr.Tsoni and things starts to becoming a bit ridiculous.

 

[BobTheDuck]

It makes sense, but doesn't that risk making everything too interconnected?
In the sense, this is already a "sequel", there is almost certainly some connection with the Zanes given Katie's continuous appearances. Wouldn't adding this type of link with the LI be excessive?

If it's done well, it won't be excessive. Nia was done pretty well, and her revelation hit me hard. It also makes sense that Nika was besotted and lost track of anything other than Summer back at that time. If something simple and plausibe exists, it'll still suck if it's badly implemented, so why not make it intricate?

Just in those three versions of Marla, Ocean goes from part top to frumpy work blouse, to casual. First one, Vic gets airbourne, literally, second, Nika strokes her hair before she gets hit, last one he tries to grab her hoodie. Different cars and guns as well. So the opening scene was nowhere near as fixed in content escept for Vic gets hit by Marla, and Nika is there to witness it.

Didn't Summer's family think of Nika as trash though ? At least her parents did and I can not think that Elsa parents are much better. If Marla is Elsa's mom she is a terrible person, plus I think would make more sense having Elsa at ZPR then. She could be the good aunt that we don't know but at this point I have to agree with Dr.Tsoni and things starts to becoming a bit ridiculous.

Well, we don't know the family makeup. Elsa's mum might hav married into Summer's family. Remember we're talking about Ocean that placed a cabin a 6 hour drive by car away from the lake Nika and Nami can walk to from their house... but SUmmer and NIka walked their in an afternoon. There are some countries you can cross in 6 hours drive.

My real interest is that Ocean appears to have complicated Marla by adding another Marla ("introducing Miss Marla" when we and Nadia already know Stephanie could mean Ocean is playing with words). It's an idle thought and I'm seeing if it can fit, and why Marla reacts to Nika but not to the girl she almost killed, if that is left intentionally (and I believe it is). Stephanie makes it sound like it is an older problem she is dealing with seeing Amber, pre-existing what happened with Vic.

 

[Maviarab]

I think ocean finally upload the WIAB season 1 final . Can't wait him to share it public

Why would you think that? He just mentioned in WiaB's devlog he still has scenes left to render.

Ch4 on Steam also will not be the full season 1.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Didn't Summer's family think of Nika as trash though ? At least her parents did and I can not think that Elsa parents are much better. If Marla is Elsa's mom she is a terrible person, plus I think would make more sense having Elsa at ZPR then. She could be the good aunt that we don't know but at this point I have to agree with Dr.Tsoni and things starts to becoming a bit ridiculous.

Isn't Elsa and Marla supposed to be love interest. Or has that changed hard to keep up

 

[BobTheDuck]

Isn't Elsa and Marla supposed to be love interest. Or has that changed hard to keep up

Yes and yes. My guess is that the Marla makeover is to ensure that at least two people play the path. Seeing Marla was called an abomination when she was introduced, she has a lot of negativity to overcome

 

[Pl@y3r]

Details are good and all if the dev has the rig capable of rendering fast enough, but he doesn't, so these unnecessary renders are causing the update to be once per year for a visual novel game.

Working on WIAB is what causes SG to get updates once per year.

Focus less on such "zooming, cinematics and extreme details" so he can dish out updates more often which in turn would attract more people and he can raise moeny faster to get more GPUs to render.

Those GPUs would be used to make 8k renders and 120 fps animations/cinematics.

 

[Adhdclassic]

That bingo board seems to be the story.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Yes and yes. My guess is that the Marla makeover is to ensure that at least two people play the path. Seeing Marla was called an abomination when she was introduced, she has a lot of negativity to overcome

She still continues to take up space that could be used for Ayua

 

[dameromexxx]

Didn't Summer's family think of Nika as trash though ? At least her parents did and I can not think that Elsa parents are much better. If Marla is Elsa's mom she is a terrible person, plus I think would make more sense having Elsa at ZPR then. She could be the good aunt that we don't know but at this point I have to agree with Dr.Tsoni and things starts to becoming a bit ridiculous.

I have to admit that because of this memory with Elsa and Summer I always had a problem with clearly defining their age.
Nika height can always be explained by the fact that he is in the height of a basketball player playing as a guard.

But girls ? - such height differences are probably possible in children aged 12-14. Considering that Nami is the person who met Summer first, it is possible that she is a year older than Nika. It is also possible that Elsa is a year younger than Nika and two than Summer and is currently not in any college after being in her last year of high school. But in such a situation, if the romance with her were to be planned, it would mean that we will have significant time jumps in the future.

 

[Cooling Prob]

Miss Marla. That's the teacher in the accident right?

Well I lover it when she met met..where was is in school or at the shrinks office and she looked at me...ah the MC I mean..and said with all the honesty in the world "You're my problem"

I really really like her. I hope something more happens with her

 

[Pl@y3r]

So is the implication two Marlas?

It's Marla offering Nika a job. It involves cars and guns maybe.

Marla could know Nika without him being aware.

..like if she was the hit and run that killed the Cyrus's and every other person in a motor accident in Wollust.

Her real job. Being a teacher is just a front.

 

[dan_roger69]

"A series of fortunate events"

Spoiler: Fortunate Events

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