VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Dr.TSoni]

Well our boy Nika is a delinquent who is a walking minefield for all these beauties

Poor Mila only find him interesting and she has already a police on her back

Vic met him when he was on his way to the store to buy some buns. The result? A disastrous one for her, the girl is in a wheelchair.

Shit! He even brings bad luck
XD

 

[yossa999]

Well our boy Nika is a delinquent who is a walking minefield for all these beauties

Poor Mila only find him interesting and she has already a police on her back

Vic met him when he was on his way to the store to buy some buns. The result? A disastrous one for her, the girl is in a wheelchair.

Damn right. And we haven't even started talking about what happened to Summer who knew him best of all.

 

[Maviarab]

Damn right. And we haven't even started talking about what happened to Summer who knew him best of all.

I kidnapped her....she in my dungeon. Block AA-23, sub-level five, cell 2187.

 

[Pl@y3r]

Fuck me, am I going to end up owing that bitch a 10-second car?

Nika will repay Marla in a different way But Marla does owe Victoria a 10-second wheelchair. Seriously though, Marla should be forced to pay for all of Victoria's medical expenses from now on and also babysit her.

 

[yossa999]

I kidnapped her....she in my dungeon. Block AA-23, sub-level five, cell 2187.

I knew it was some kind of time-jumping thing. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

 

[Maviarab]

I knew it was some kind of time-jumping thing. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

The beauty of being able to go at ridiculous speed

 

[xCalon]

I kidnapped her....she in my dungeon. Block AA-23, sub-level five, cell 2187.

Have she a cellmate, or you are so cruel, she have to be alone?

 

[RNasc4444]

I kidnapped her....she in my dungeon. Block AA-23, sub-level five, cell 2187.

Could you maybe...cut her up in say...10 parts? Then load each part into a separate TIE fighter and launch all but one at the nearest star? Drop the last one, containing her head, on the sarlacc pit. Pretty please? Just to make sure that dreadful creature never comes back. I'd be forever thankful

 

[LHDLLB]

I'll try to be brief because it's time for me to sleep:
- Nia was Summer's friend at the same school. For Nika not to sit with her or notice her at all when he's hanging around Summer at the point that Summer talks about him with Nia, well it's odd. You can't get away from kids in school. BUt on the otherhand, I don't know girlfriends aunts unless I'm invited to a family dinner at christmas or something. BUt after the incident, everyone who didn't know Nika at the school, all their parents etc would know Nika, but he wouldn't know all of them.

-I'm not suggesting Stephanie is Elsa's mom, that doesn't look likely at all. An aunt can be through marriage. Plenty of flexibility and space. Now that Marla looks like her family is important enough storywise to introduce her (maybe, maybe not) sister, I wonder who she's connected to, and why we're being introduced to her. That's my only angle really. Another Marla does what exactly for the story? THere must be a reason.

-It was ch5 beta the gun was taken away, not the steam release. After that Ocean did the reworks on Ch2-3, some of thes scenes are where Miss Marla reacts to Nika. So it's likely the therapy and reactions are left on purpose because Ocean plans on Marla's story being tied to the therapy. So even if it's a holdover, I'm sure Ocean has a backstory for Marla planned.

- In any case, as I say, Marla's therapy is partially for her self image and pre-dates the accident with Vic. So the main subject of her therapy is not Vic, it's something likely earlier than that. She'll probably add Vic onto the pile of things she has therapy for. If Claire's bingo card is any indication, she's also laughed at behind her back by her peers.

- Do we know that Elsa goes to college? We know she's a model, but we don't know whether she's studying, I don't recall there being any indication of that. That Nika and Nami hang out with Elsa because of Summer, but not with Nia is a mystery.

- I don't know. Nika and Summer relationship looked like their parent are aware of it, they are still kids. He could have gone to a dinner and then was judge as trash or, I don't know, one million scenarios are possible. I find more hard to believe that Nika would forget someone who was related to Summer than Nia. From Nia dialogue I did not got the vibe that they spend much time together, only that after the birthday party Summer started to give some of her attention to Nia, with to her was a bid deal but to Summer she was just being kind. I can see Nika not caring to someone who Summer talked sometimes.

- I know. But so far the only aunt that Summer has that we know off is Elsa's mom. But as you said is not that hard or impossible that she had another. For the rest I agree. If we will get a second Miss Marla, there has to be a reason as to why and I am for thinking about where she would fit.

- Sorry, all the different versions are blender together in my mind. I agree, Marla story is likely to be linked to the therapy and I am sure that if he left the dialogue he has a reason for it. As I said, the thought just made sense. It was a simpler answer to a question. Marla wanting a shared therapy with Nika because he tried to kill her, or at least pointed a gun at her, is a simpler answer than she knows a secret or is related to his past.

- Here I fully agree, it is obvious that she is struggling with confidence. The scene where she pushes her shirt down before rescuing Nika from the locker room, and then Katie comments that she is, " trying too hard", Ocean is making progress with her in very subtle ways all through S1. But why Nika would be a problem to her and her confidence ? Even if she is related to Summer I can't see how the boyfriend of her teenager niece, would matter at all to the problem.

- I think that when we encounter at the dinner she says what college she is in, and is the same as the one Vanessa goes to, I may be miss remembering but I am fairly sure. Will look it. I really don't think so, Nia herself says that she was not the best friend of Summer, Nami was, until she was not anymore. What I am saying is that Summer was much more important to Nia than Nia to Summer, Summer cared for Nia but I think that they did really not spend much time together. If they did Nika would have remember her.

 

[Pl@y3r]

Could you maybe...cut her up in say...10 parts? Then load each part into a separate TIE fighter and launch all but one at the nearest star? Drop the last one, containing her head, on the sarlacc pit. Pretty please? Just to make sure that dreadful creature never comes back. I'd be forever thankful

You should listen to your own advice:

 

[Krytax123]

Could you maybe...cut her up in say...10 parts? Then load each part into a separate TIE fighter and launch all but one at the nearest star? Drop the last one, containing her head, on the sarlacc pit. Pretty please? Just to make sure that dreadful creature never comes back. I'd be forever thankful

Lmao why do you hate her so much? Or is it just the looks?

I was indifferent towards summer as a character until the Nia flashback but since then i think shes pretty cool and a good friend. And i bet she wont be a oversized fatty if she comes back

 

[Maviarab]

Could you maybe...cut her up in say...10 parts? Then load each part into a separate TIE fighter and launch all but one at the nearest star? Drop the last one, containing her head, on the sarlacc pit. Pretty please? Just to make sure that dreadful creature never comes back. I'd be forever thankful

Well...Nasc...extreme...I mean...I could...

 

[RNasc4444]

Well...Nasc...extreme...I mean...I could...

I am the OG Summer hater. Doesn't matter how many retcons Ocean introduces to make her more likeable, I will never forget how awful she was as a child. Truly, truly vile.

 

[RNasc4444]

Lmao why do you hate her so much? Or is it just the looks?

I was indifferent towards summer as a character until the Nia flashback but since then i think shes pretty cool and a good friend. And i bet she wont be a oversized fatty if she comes back

If you played the earlier versions (NOT THE GROWN UP SUMMER) you know she was...not a nice child whatsoever. Ocean toned her down a bit since then but my first impression was sooo bad, it was scarred into my memory. She was mean, physically abusive, she turned her back on her friend because she had a crush on her brother. She treated her cousin like shit. So many examples...

I think Ocean wanted to portray her as rebellious but all I saw was a mean spirited, obnoxious child.

I totally understand that if you play the game now for the first time this take seems completely out of the left field due to the changes but in earlier versions I think you could somewhat see my point

Also there is the fact that I REALLY, REALLY don't want her back in the story. I think she has served her purpose as the source of the MC's trauma and coming back will only diminish the depth of that crucial plot point.

 

[Krytax123]

If you played the earlier versions (NOT THE GROWN UP SUMMER) you know she was...not a nice child whatsoever. Ocean toned her down a bit since then but my first impression was sooo bad, it was scarred into my memory. She was mean, physically abusive, she turned her back on her friend because she had a crush on her brother. She treated her cousin like shit. So many examples...

I think Ocean wanted to portray her as rebellious but all I saw was a mean spirited, obnoxious child.

I totally understand that if you play the game now for the first time this take seems completely out of the left field due to the changes but in earlier versions I think you could somewhat see my point

Also there is the fact that I REALLY, REALLY don't want her back in the story. I think she has served her purpose as the source of the MC's trauma and coming back will only diminish the depth of that crucial plot point.

Hmm i dunno, i have played the original versions but dont really remember the big differences, and always thought the nami/summer thing was more on nami but maybe my memory just sucks

I saw her as rebellious and rowdy lol

 

[RNasc4444]

Hmm i dunno, i have played the original versions but dont really remember the big differences, and always thought the nami/summer thing was more on nami but maybe my memory just sucks

I saw her as rebellious and rowdy lol

Could just be different perspectives then.

I was always more pro-Nami. She had a normal "sibling relationship" with her "not-brother" and one day she comes home with her new best friend thinking she can finally get some support in her "sibling rivalry" only to end up being shunned by her "not-brother" and friend.

That's why I'm pretty sure whatever awful things Nami did in the past, all the stuff they agreed to not talk about, will be pretty fine to me. I already dislike the MC quite a bit too so I will most likely see that as deserved for all the shit him and Summer put her through.

Kinda mirrors the WiAB stuff. I dislike both William and Leia and their treatment of Katie as kids was certainly part of that.

 

[Krytax123]

Could just be different perspectives then.

I was always more pro-Nami. She had a normal "sibling relationship" with her "not-brother" and one day she comes home with her new best friend thinking she can finally get some support in her "sibling rivalry" only to end up being shunned by her "not-brother" and friend.

That's why I'm pretty sure whatever awful things Nami did in the past, all the stuff they agreed to not talk about, will be pretty fine to me. I already dislike the MC quite a bit too so I will most likely see that as deserved for all the shit him and Summer put her through.

Kinda mirrors the WiAB stuff. I dislike both William and Leia and their treatment of Katie as kids was certainly part of that.

Yeah i always interpreted it as:

Nami is hyper jealous and territorial and cant handle her two clostest friends liking each other. Feeling like the third wheel because the other two are in love with each other, its not unnatural for a little girl to get sad/angry about it.

Seeing how Summer apparently still valued her other friendships (and Nika too before he became a weirdo considering he was popular) makes me think it was nami who distanced herself from them instead of the other way around.

If she was in love with her not-brother back than already its reasonable that its too hurtful.

But thats on Nami and i think thats exactly what Nika is talking about when they get the pizza when they are chilling at the frohns place. Nami is (and was) the one behaving irrational because of her emotions/feelings, its not on Nika (or Summer).

 

[RNasc4444]

Yeah i always interpreted it as:

Nami is hyper jealous and territorial and cant handle her two clostest friends liking each other. Feeling like the third wheel because the other two are in love with each other, its not unnatural for a little girl to get sad/angry about it.

Seeing how Summer apparently still valued her other friendships (and Nika too before he became a weirdo considering he was popular) makes me think it was nami who distanced herself from them instead of the other way around.

If she was in love with her not-brother back than already its reasonable that its too hurtful.

But thats on Nami and i think thats exactly what Nika is talking about when they get the pizza when they are chilling at the frohns place. Nami is (and was) the one behaving irrational because of her emotions/feelings, its not on Nika (or Summer).

Very reasonable take. You may very well be correct in your interpretation.

But even if you are, I don't think it will change my mind on the situation. I still think Nami was done dirty. And I still think Summer and the MC are extremely unlikeable as teens.

I will admit my bias towards characters that are as loyal and devoted as Nami is to her not-brother. So I will always stand by her.

All said and done, Summer is the antichrist as far as I'm concerned and I truly hope she is dead

 

[Krytax123]

Very reasonable take. You may very well be correct in your interpretation.

But even if you are, I don't think it will change my mind on the situation. I still think Nami was done dirty. And I still think Summer and the MC are extremely unlikeable as teens.

I will admit my bias towards characters that are as loyal and devoted as Nami is to her not-brother. So I will always stand by her.

All said and done, Summer is the antichrist as far as I'm concerned and I truly hope she is dead

They both (Nika and summer) have a bit of unlikeable characteristics of popular/confident kids but all kids are kinda assholes at some point

I wouldnt have liked myself as a kid either but i still think it was more good than bad.

I really like Nami's loyality too (just less as a LI and more as a sister) and Nika in my playthroughs will always have her back - no matter what - she could kill someone entirely unreasonable and my Nika would still help her to hide it

 

[acmb2017]

All said and done, Summer is the antichrist as far as I'm concerned and I truly hope she is dead

I could not care less if she alive or dead. However I feel there are far more interesting LI than Nami in this VN. Absolutely more than Summer for sure. Nami is cute as hell but just abit too much for my taste