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Didn't Summer's family think of Nika as trash though ? At least her parents did and I can not think that Elsa parents are much better. If Marla is Elsa's mom she is a terrible person, plus I think would make more sense having Elsa at ZPR then. She could be the good aunt that we don't know but at this point I have to agree with Dr.Tsoni and things starts to becoming a bit ridiculous.
Isn't Elsa and Marla supposed to be love interest. Or has that changed hard to keep up
 

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Isn't Elsa and Marla supposed to be love interest. Or has that changed hard to keep up
Yes and yes. My guess is that the Marla makeover is to ensure that at least two people play the path. Seeing Marla was called an abomination when she was introduced, she has a lot of negativity to overcome :KEK:
 

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Details are good and all if the dev has the rig capable of rendering fast enough, but he doesn't, so these unnecessary renders are causing the update to be once per year for a visual novel game.
Working on WIAB is what causes SG to get updates once per year.
Focus less on such "zooming, cinematics and extreme details" so he can dish out updates more often which in turn would attract more people and he can raise moeny faster to get more GPUs to render.
Those GPUs would be used to make 8k renders and 120 fps animations/cinematics.
 

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Didn't Summer's family think of Nika as trash though ? At least her parents did and I can not think that Elsa parents are much better. If Marla is Elsa's mom she is a terrible person, plus I think would make more sense having Elsa at ZPR then. She could be the good aunt that we don't know but at this point I have to agree with Dr.Tsoni and things starts to becoming a bit ridiculous.
I have to admit that because of this memory with Elsa and Summer I always had a problem with clearly defining their age.
Nika height can always be explained by the fact that he is in the height of a basketball player playing as a guard.

But girls ? - such height differences are probably possible in children aged 12-14. Considering that Nami is the person who met Summer first, it is possible that she is a year older than Nika. It is also possible that Elsa is a year younger than Nika and two than Summer and is currently not in any college after being in her last year of high school. But in such a situation, if the romance with her were to be planned, it would mean that we will have significant time jumps in the future.
 

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Miss Marla. That's the teacher in the accident right?
Well I lover it when she met met..where was is in school or at the shrinks office and she looked at me...ah the MC I mean..and said with all the honesty in the world "You're my problem" :love:

I really really like her. I hope something more happens with her

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i also think Sasha and robin know Nika. but I don't think Nica mistreated them in the past, cuz they are kind to Nika. like LHDLLB said, which I also think is maybe Sasha might find him attractive, since Sasha is one of Nika's potential lovers.
I was talking abour Sasha's redhead friend who seems cautious around Nika, sometimes even looking like she's scared of him based on her facial expression.

Didn't Summer's family think of Nika as trash though ? At least her parents did and I can not think that Elsa parents are much better.
Elsa's mother said that Nika was a bad influence. Also in that flashback, Elsa didn't want more than 1 scoop of ice cream saying that her mother would get mad and find out during the "weekly weighing" and she didn't want to be "punished again".
 
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If it's done well, it won't be excessive. Nia was done pretty well, and her revelation hit me hard. It also makes sense that Nika was besotted and lost track of anything other than Summer back at that time. If something simple and plausibe exists, it'll still suck if it's badly implemented, so why not make it intricate?

Just in those three versions of Marla, Ocean goes from part top to frumpy work blouse, to casual. First one, Vic gets airbourne, literally, second, Nika strokes her hair before she gets hit, last one he tries to grab her hoodie. Different cars and guns as well. So the opening scene was nowhere near as fixed in content escept for Vic gets hit by Marla, and Nika is there to witness it.



Well, we don't know the family makeup. Elsa's mum might hav married into Summer's family. Remember we're talking about Ocean that placed a cabin a 6 hour drive by car away from the lake Nika and Nami can walk to from their house... but SUmmer and NIka walked their in an afternoon. There are some countries you can cross in 6 hours drive.

My real interest is that Ocean appears to have complicated Marla by adding another Marla ("introducing Miss Marla" when we and Nadia already know Stephanie could mean Ocean is playing with words). It's an idle thought and I'm seeing if it can fit, and why Marla reacts to Nika but not to the girl she almost killed, if that is left intentionally (and I believe it is). Stephanie makes it sound like it is an older problem she is dealing with seeing Amber, pre-existing what happened with Vic.
Nia's situation is a bit different, I think. Nia and Nika never talked when they were kids. If Marla was to be Summer's aunt, he would have to at least be aware of her. I am not necessarily against the idea that Marla may know Nika from earlier, just that the aunt Summer angle really rubs me the wrong way.

About the Vic accident car, one of those constants was the gun scene; Ocean just backed out of it with the S1 release. I don't think that whether she's her aunt by blood or marriage would change much. Elsa's mom weighed her daughter weekly and some corporal punishment was hinted at if she had gained weight. Now, Marla could be another aunt, one that only runs over young girls but doesn't give them anorexia, and it can work, I think; it just seems like an odd choice.

Now, here we agree. The addition of another Miss Marla is an interesting one. Stephanie as a character is one that's growing on me; she's having subtle - or not-so-subtle - advances completely unrelated to Nika that I'm finding very interesting. I agree that the way she speaks hints at a problem unrelated to Vic; it really does, and was my first thought as well, reading the scene, that maybe there's more than we first assume. My second one was the gun thing, and I don't hate it either; it's simpler, and I prefer simpler answers, but I don't think that it's more or less likely than any other.

I have to admit that because of this memory with Elsa and Summer I always had a problem with clearly defining their age.
Nika height can always be explained by the fact that he is in the height of a basketball player playing as a guard.

But girls ? - such height differences are probably possible in children aged 12-14. Considering that Nami is the person who met Summer first, it is possible that she is a year older than Nika. It is also possible that Elsa is a year younger than Nika and two than Summer and is currently not in any college after being in her last year of high school. But in such a situation, if the romance with her were to be planned, it would mean that we will have significant time jumps in the future.
Elsa is the same age as Nika I think and she is going to the same college that Vanessa goes, with name I don't recall, but in the flashback they are around 10-12 years old, Summer incident was 5 year before the story begins and Nika is 18. Summer may have been older but we see that Nika, Nami and Summer are on the same class, so I think that Nami was hold back one year and Summer and Nika had the same age. Time jumps seems a possibility but I don't think that these are gonna be the reasons.

I was talking abour Sasha's redhead friend who seems cautious around Nika, sometimes even looking like she's scared of him based on her facial expression.


Elsa's mother said that Nika was a bad influence. Also in that flashback, Elsa didn't want more than 1 scoop of ice cream saying that her mother would get mad and find out during the "weekly weighing" and she didn't want to be "punished again".
Yeah just made this reference. But Marla could be another aunt, she not necessarily needs to be Elsa's mom.
 
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Nia's situation is a bit different, I think. Nia and Nika never talked when they were kids. If Marla was to be Summer's aunt, he would have to at least be aware of her. I am not necessarily against the idea that Marla may know Nika from earlier, just that the aunt Summer angle really rubs me the wrong way.

About the Vic accident car, one of those constants was the gun scene; Ocean just backed out of it with the S1 release. I don't think that whether she's her aunt by blood or marriage would change much. Elsa's mom weighed her daughter weekly and some corporal punishment was hinted at if she had gained weight. Now, Marla could be another aunt, one that only runs over young girls but doesn't give them anorexia, and it can work, I think; it just seems like an odd choice.

Now, here we agree. The addition of another Miss Marla is an interesting one. Stephanie as a character is one that's growing on me; she's having subtle - or not-so-subtle - advances completely unrelated to Nika that I'm finding very interesting. I agree that the way she speaks hints at a problem unrelated to Vic; it really does, and was my first thought as well, reading the scene, that maybe there's more than we first assume. My second one was the gun thing, and I don't hate it either; it's simpler, and I prefer simpler answers, but I don't think that it's more or less likely than any other.



Elsa is the same age as Nika I think and she is going to the same college that Vanessa goes, with name I don't recall, but in the flashback they are around 10-12 years old, Summer incident was 5 year before the story begins and Nika is 18. Summer may have been older but we see that Nika, Nami and Summer are on the same class, so I think that Nami was hold back one year and Summer and Nika had the same age. Time jumps seems a possibility but I don't think that these are gonna be the reasons.



Yeah just made this reference. But Marla could be another aunt, she not necessarily needs to be Elsa's mom.
I'll try to be brief because it's time for me to sleep:
- Nia was Summer's friend at the same school. For Nika not to sit with her or notice her at all when he's hanging around Summer at the point that Summer talks about him with Nia, well it's odd. You can't get away from kids in school. BUt on the otherhand, I don't know girlfriends aunts unless I'm invited to a family dinner at christmas or something. BUt after the incident, everyone who didn't know Nika at the school, all their parents etc would know Nika, but he wouldn't know all of them.

-I'm not suggesting Stephanie is Elsa's mom, that doesn't look likely at all. An aunt can be through marriage. Plenty of flexibility and space. Now that Marla looks like her family is important enough storywise to introduce her (maybe, maybe not) sister, I wonder who she's connected to, and why we're being introduced to her. That's my only angle really. Another Marla does what exactly for the story? THere must be a reason.

-It was ch5 beta the gun was taken away, not the steam release. After that Ocean did the reworks on Ch2-3, some of thes scenes are where Miss Marla reacts to Nika. So it's likely the therapy and reactions are left on purpose because Ocean plans on Marla's story being tied to the therapy. So even if it's a holdover, I'm sure Ocean has a backstory for Marla planned.

- In any case, as I say, Marla's therapy is partially for her self image and pre-dates the accident with Vic. So the main subject of her therapy is not Vic, it's something likely earlier than that. She'll probably add Vic onto the pile of things she has therapy for. If Claire's bingo card is any indication, she's also laughed at behind her back by her peers.

- Do we know that Elsa goes to college? We know she's a model, but we don't know whether she's studying, I don't recall there being any indication of that. That Nika and Nami hang out with Elsa because of Summer, but not with Nia is a mystery.
 
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Summer may have been older but we see that Nika, Nami and Summer are on the same class, so I think that Nami was hold back one year and Summer and Nika had the same age.
Maybe Nami was born at the beginning of the year while Nika was born towards the end

- Do we know that Elsa goes to college? We know she's a model, but we don't know whether she's studying, I don't recall there being any indication of that. That Nika and Nami hang out with Elsa because of Summer, but not with Nia is a mystery.
Because Summer is the one who pushed her towards doing porn, it was all a plan to collect a percentage of her earnings
 

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I was talking abour Sasha's redhead friend who seems cautious around Nika, sometimes even looking like she's scared of him based on her facial expression.
You're right about that, her facial expressions give you a lot to think about in the first interaction, on the one hand she seems to show concern but her eyes are dominated by anger. In the cafeteria she looks at him as if she was watching a ticking bomb.

Most of these girls in the background don't stand out with anything except their pretty faces. Mystery Cheeto and the pizza-bus goth girl are basically the only ones who have something about them that makes them more memorable, which is why there are assumptions that they will have a more significant role to play in the story
 
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