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Krytax123

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Very reasonable take. You may very well be correct in your interpretation.

But even if you are, I don't think it will change my mind on the situation. I still think Nami was done dirty. And I still think Summer and the MC are extremely unlikeable as teens.

I will admit my bias towards characters that are as loyal and devoted as Nami is to her not-brother. So I will always stand by her.

All said and done, Summer is the antichrist as far as I'm concerned and I truly hope she is dead :LOL:
They both (Nika and summer) have a bit of unlikeable characteristics of popular/confident kids but all kids are kinda assholes at some point :ROFLMAO:

I wouldnt have liked myself as a kid either :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: but i still think it was more good than bad.

I really like Nami's loyality too (just less as a LI and more as a sister) and Nika in my playthroughs will always have her back - no matter what - she could kill someone entirely unreasonable and my Nika would still help her to hide it :BootyTime:
 

acmb2017

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All said and done, Summer is the antichrist as far as I'm concerned and I truly hope she is dead
I could not care less if she alive or dead. However I feel there are far more interesting LI than Nami in this VN. Absolutely more than Summer for sure. Nami is cute as hell but just abit too much for my taste
 
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lenny007

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Haven't played it for a year. So correct me if I'm wrong - the developer is milking 1000+ patreon subscribers, releasing 1-2 meaningless updates per year with tons of dialogs and pictures, no 18+ scenes with main girls, considering that the game is super-old. For example, NTL media managed to finish treasure of nadia and genesis order while this guy "working hard" on one renpy vn.

Anything else I dont know about this game?
 

Krytax123

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Haven't played it for a year. So correct me if I'm wrong - the developer is milking 1000+ patreon subscribers, releasing 1-2 meaningless updates per year with tons of dialogs and pictures, no 18+ scenes with main girls, considering that the game is super-old. For example, NTL media managed to finish treasure of nadia and genesis order while this guy "working hard" on one renpy vn.

Anything else I dont know about this game?
Ahahahaha lol ntl "avns" :ROFLMAO:
 

BobTheDuck

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Haven't played it for a year. So correct me if I'm wrong - the developer is milking 1000+ patreon subscribers, releasing 1-2 meaningless updates per year with tons of dialogs and pictures, no 18+ scenes with main girls, considering that the game is super-old. For example, NTL media managed to finish treasure of nadia and genesis order while this guy "working hard" on one renpy vn.

Anything else I dont know about this game?
Yes, a significant number of people enjoy the dialogue and pictures even without sex scenes.

Ocean needs to milk better, as he's way too occupied churning out renders right now, actually doing what his supporters pay for. If they're comfortable, I just wait until there's an update.

Pirates are the actual milkers you realise right? We're the ones here that get something for nothing.

Edit: Also, Ocean's working on two AVN's, one of which has sex scenes. So your dissing needs improvement. You should also obey the forum lords and not mention other AVN's than the devs in a thread, mods love the work.
 

JillybeanEnjoyer

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Yes, a significant number of people enjoy the dialogue and pictures even without sex scenes.

Ocean needs to milk better, as he's way too occupied churning out renders right now, actually doing what his supporters pay for. If they're comfortable, I just wait until there's an update.

Pirates are the actual milkers you realise right? We're the ones here that get something for nothing.
Yes, a significant number of people enjoy the dialogue and pictures even without sex scenes.

Ocean needs to milk better, as he's way too occupied churning out renders right now, actually doing what his supporters pay for. If they're comfortable, I just wait until there's an update.

Pirates are the actual milkers you realise right? We're the ones here that get something for nothing.
So nice you had to say it twice. :KEK:
 

BobTheDuck

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So nice you had to say it twice. :KEK:
The last firefox update has been reacting weirdly with this site, sorry and fixed

It was a good post alright? Sheesh tough crowd :KEK:

- I don't know. Nika and Summer relationship looked like their parent are aware of it, they are still kids. He could have gone to a dinner and then was judge as trash or, I don't know, one million scenarios are possible. I find more hard to believe that Nika would forget someone who was related to Summer than Nia. From Nia dialogue I did not got the vibe that they spend much time together, only that after the birthday party Summer started to give some of her attention to Nia, with to her was a bid deal but to Summer she was just being kind. I can see Nika not caring to someone who Summer talked sometimes.

- I know. But so far the only aunt that Summer has that we know off is Elsa's mom. But as you said is not that hard or impossible that she had another. For the rest I agree. If we will get a second Miss Marla, there has to be a reason as to why and I am for thinking about where she would fit.

- Sorry, all the different versions are blender together in my mind. I agree, Marla story is likely to be linked to the therapy and I am sure that if he left the dialogue he has a reason for it. As I said, the thought just made sense. It was a simpler answer to a question. Marla wanting a shared therapy with Nika because he tried to kill her, or at least pointed a gun at her, is a simpler answer than she knows a secret or is related to his past.

- Here I fully agree, it is obvious that she is struggling with confidence. The scene where she pushes her shirt down before rescuing Nika from the locker room, and then Katie comments that she is, " trying too hard", Ocean is making progress with her in very subtle ways all through S1. But why Nika would be a problem to her and her confidence ? Even if she is related to Summer I can't see how the boyfriend of her teenager niece, would matter at all to the problem.

- I think that when we encounter at the dinner she says what college she is in, and is the same as the one Vanessa goes to, I may be miss remembering but I am fairly sure. Will look it. I really don't think so, Nia herself says that she was not the best friend of Summer, Nami was, until she was not anymore. What I am saying is that Summer was much more important to Nia than Nia to Summer, Summer cared for Nia but I think that they did really not spend much time together. If they did Nika would have remember her.
- As I say, Summer's extended family are unlikely to have met Nika (other than Elsa's mom, as they hang out with Elsa). Extended family might just tell their kids that NIka's trash just because it's what Summer's parents say. You don't have to meet someone to talk shit about them - family take sides without evidence all the time.

- Nika remembers the giraffe, which means that he saw it in Summer's home before Summer gave it to Nia. Summer and Elsa hang out like a posse with Nika and Nami, so it is strange that Nia doesn't, other than Ocean's plot reasons of making sure Nika didn't recognise Nia. And I think that's the sole reason - Ocean wanted a revelation moment, and wants Nika not to recognise people, it's part of his way to create surprise. I think actually Nia was important to Summer, it wasn't a one off thing - why would Summer go to her party with a present if it was just the first time they hung out? Nia has enough history, but Summer already knew Nika as well, telling Nia all about their relationship. Nia even tells Summer why she doesn't socialise, so Summer thought it was strange as well. All that matters is that Nia wasn't a casual acquaintance, even though her best friend was Nika.

- Even though the gun appeared like a simpler option, if someone pointed a gun at you would you be comfortable meeting them for therapy? More likely she'd want the police involved than therapy. What's to reconcile in the old version? they both had adrenaline and pointed a gun at each other. In Marla's case it's less traumatic being aimed at because she knows it's blanks, she literally knows he can't kill her with it. Even in the gun scenario, there's no guarantee you didn't disarm her and throw the gun away - shooting the blanks at her isn't guaranteed. So what trauma is there for her to work through? If you did try to kill her, she'd want a restraining order instead, but the therapy is regardless of that choice to point the gun at her.

- Why would NIka be the problem? That's the question we're trying to find out here. We probably can't, and I'm just shooting blanks at why Marla's there. :KEK: More seriously, we don't know Marla's trigger (sorry not sorry) for her confidence trauma. I think it's something to do with Nika's situation. JUst like Nika's never met Katie, but she knows who Nika is, Hill knows who Nika is, Marla does as well. Keep in mind she's employed and has access to the student folders, so she knows more about Nika than we know. It's a lot more complicated than what is between NIka and Marla, it covers why ZPR are interested in Nika and Nami maybe? So if Nami has Leia's earring, and Katie is possibly there at the bookclub to meet Nami (not knowing NIka would be there) Marla doesn't care one bit about Nami, only Nika, despite both of them appearing to get some form of scholarship (no choice about college). Marla is indifferent to Nami, while Hill and Marla know things about him. Katie is interested in both.

Anyway, the point is that Marla has an insterest in Nika that has nothing to do with the gun or the crash. Group therapy for Marla regarding the crash should also involve the police and Vic, as Nika was just a bystander like the police. People get fixated by the gun in weird ways, maybe it belonged to Chekov. :coffee::whistle:

- Marla's reason for shared therapy can be a variey of things. IF she's related to Summer in some fashion, she might regret what happened that caused Summer to go missing. She might not be related, but caused the crash that killed Nika's parents. It can't be therapy for attraction, because she hasn't seen him enough and had enough awkward encounters to warrant therapy for liking a young student. Nika will probably believe the therapy is for the accident, but it's most likely something else. The accident just throws them together and becomes the vehicle/mechanism that starts their path.
 
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Adhdclassic

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Nope, I mean this one, the Charlie's Angels vibe, so the assumption is an intended posse:
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Looks like she shops at the same place as the redhead for dresses, but here she is talking to the first team's coach, suggesting a sports focus.
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If this is also her, she's done the hair dye thing that both Ayua and the redhead have done. But I'm not 100% it's her, it might be an updated tattoo henna, because Ocean isn't always consistent (like Sonya's jewellery changing colour, guy with hair being bald etc)
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Ocean is killing motherfuckers with these hot chicks.
 

dameromexxx

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Yeah Summer it that Summer is not that I would just like to remind that we are talking about a 12 year old girl who is probably in love for the first time in her life. Her potential adult version may be one of many things that does not quite resemble the child we see in the memories in the same way that 18 year old Nika Cyrus has little in common with a kid in love who buys ice cream for his first girlfriend and her cousin.

In general, I have a higher level of tolerance for 10-12 year olds and their antics, for me they are still closer to children from the sandbox than to teenagers aged 13-17 driven by the need to be the coolest kid in school. And during this period all I hear is Summer's Gone Nika's Turn Emo and Nami's Turn Asshole
 

vampires69'in

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I know I'm probably in the minority here. But I hope Nick isn't cuckterial and he and Noji have a great relationship, and that end ups being her naughty content. Tired of these AVN titles having trash bag Father's. At least let Nick be good. Beyond done with these Isekai logic shit. And I want any girls that don't end up with Nika either hooked up with someone else or at least lose romantic or thirsty interest in him.
 

dameromexxx

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I know I'm probably in the minority here. But I hope Nick isn't cuckterial and he and Noji have a great relationship, and that end ups being her naughty content. Tired of these AVN titles having trash bag Father's. At least let Nick be good. Beyond done with these Isekai logic shit. And I want any girls that don't end up with Nika either hooked up with someone else or at least lose romantic or thirsty interest in him.
100% that one manwhoring incident and all girls from ''Nami how big is Nika dick'' club should put him on the blacklist and all we should be left with is collecting ribbons from the necks of free boob movment gals and sports underwear from first team athlethes gals like pokemons no real love for mister don juan
 

Ray_D

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I know I'm probably in the minority here. But I hope Nick isn't cuckterial and he and Noji have a great relationship, and that end ups being her naughty content. Tired of these AVN titles having trash bag Father's. At least let Nick be good. Beyond done with these Isekai logic shit. And I want any girls that don't end up with Nika either hooked up with someone else or at least lose romantic or thirsty interest in him.
To be honest I'm not interested in noji, I have other objectives in mind. :Kappa:
 
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