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vampires69'in

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Before the rework there were only brothers, in the new version it turns out there is also a sister. I don't watch the reworked versions, so I missed the news about the expansion of the Ayua family.
ah, I haven't played anything before... I think 3.5
 

Turret

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read the rules again and slowly. you are not prohibited from creating such content but you cannot create it with glorification. it's all about context

if your story have MC who rapes a woman based on choices it's considered a glorification of such acts and it is prohibited

but as long as the rape in the story is depicted as a tragic event or a story that someone tells and is followed by a verbal condemnation of the act then it is not prohibited. you can't create it as kink or fetish

and when we move back to the rules we find the following

Permitted works include, but are not limited to:

  • Fictional or dramatized works that do not glorify the violence and are accompanied by context
  • Documented or narrated storytelling such as True Crime podcasts, documentaries, or academic or historical research
  • Violence in an animated or simulated context (e.g. video games, comics, graphic novels in which the violence is not photorealistic)
  • Testimonials or storytelling from survivors or victims of violence
  • Violent or graphic imagery to raise awareness in a documentary or journalistic context (e.g. human rights abuses, armed conflicts, acts of terrorism)
so who the fuck is restricted?
:FacePalm: :FacePalm: Dream on, Chummer! As Penfold Mole so correctly said, it is about interpretation of these rules and Patreon has a wellknown history of being extremly arbitrary and repressive.
 

warheadd

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Random discussion question, although we have a list of "confirmed" LI’s, who you guys think would make a good LI and could possibly fall in love of Nika so far?

If I had to pick one, I would say Kate although I feel like it would be as a result of going against Bella constantly and playing in a certain manner. Though, at most, I can see her having a few spicy scenes thats all.
 
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Mr_Mister

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Or...

Patreon is now reaching into F95 to look for incest mods and checking Discord servers promoting the same and punishing the devs if they find something that offends their puritanical sensibilities...

Given that Patreon already banned WIAB, Ocean's taking a hardline stance about incest on his Discord server (which is for Both WIAB and SG) to protect his Patreon income for SG should come as no surprise.

What Was fine with Patreon for years is no longer fine.

It's not cognitive impairment, it is trying to keep his AVNs alive in a Patreon restrictive environment.

Cheers!! :coffee:
they can't and they won't do that ! , that will make 'em liable to getting sue for harassment and bad faith,
'cause that is patreon purposely going out of their way looking to punish content creators , for activities outside the content creator control .

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yossa999

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Random discussion question, although we have a list of "confirmed" LI’s, who you guys think would make a good LI and could possibly fall in love of Nika so far?

If I had to pick one, I would say Kate although I feel like it would be as a result of going against Bella constantly and playing in a certain manner. Though, at most, I can see her having a few spicy scenes thats all.
I doubt it, since the storylines of Vic, Mila and Zara have only just begun to slowly reach the romantic part. Sasha, Sonya, Amber, Nadia, Vanessa haven't even come close to that yet. I don't think Kate will pop up before they take their turn, and you yourself noticed, Kate's interest in the MC is most likely fake and an opportunity to hurt Bella, when the MC is not with Bella, Kate behaves much colder with him.
 

BobTheDuck

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I doubt it, since the storylines of Vic, Mila and Zara have only just begun to slowly reach the romantic part. Sasha, Sonya, Amber, Nadia, Vanessa haven't even come close to that yet. I don't think Kate will pop up before they take their turn, and you yourself noticed, Kate's interest in the MC is most likely fake and an opportunity to hurt Bella, when the MC is not with Bella, Kate behaves much colder with him.
I agree, I feel like some characters like Kate will be attractive, but be on the manwhore path - getting lewds with them will sabotage genuine relationships, and there will be an ending without any romantic partner. The question is what will different LI's consider crossing the line? I think in a lot of ways, obscuring who are and aren't LI's from this point is a wise move, as you can screw relationships up by choosing the wrong people - I'd love the idea that Nika has to work hard to earn trust, and in the case that he's done something to lessen trust with an actual LI, it's be great to see if there are ways to rebuild. I'm not sure I've seen that sort of dynamic in many AVN's, most of the time if you miss the on-ramp to the highway, you're off the path for good.

What if the other's path involves doing as much of Claire's bingo list as possible? That's be an epic manoeuvre.
 

warheadd

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I agree, I feel like some characters like Kate will be attractive, but be on the manwhore path - getting lewds with them will sabotage genuine relationships, and there will be an ending without any romantic partner. The question is what will different LI's consider crossing the line? I think in a lot of ways, obscuring who are and aren't LI's from this point is a wise move, as you can screw relationships up by choosing the wrong people - I'd love the idea that Nika has to work hard to earn trust, and in the case that he's done something to lessen trust with an actual LI, it's be great to see if there are ways to rebuild. I'm not sure I've seen that sort of dynamic in many AVN's, most of the time if you miss the on-ramp to the highway, you're off the path for good.

What if the other's path involves doing as much of Claire's bingo list as possible? That's be an epic manoeuvre.
I agree as well with some female characters being on an others pathway for the sake of sabotage, etc.

I was trying to ask if anyone has any characters they think could like Nika, even if they aren’t "confirmed" LI’s. But now that I think about it, we are too early in the game so I guess we will see how other characters will act towards Nika for now.
 

LHDLLB

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I agree as well with some female characters being on an others pathway for the sake of sabotage, etc.

I was trying to ask if anyone has any characters they think could like Nika, even if they aren’t "confirmed" LI’s. But now that I think about it, we are too early in the game so I guess we will see how other characters will act towards Nika for now.
Ii is a bit early to do that. But speculation is one of few things to do between updates, I thing that there are some characters we can say will like Nika but are not LIs. I think that most of the book club milfs are a safe bet, not all of them but the one you get the number, Jenna, Charlie, of the younger ones there is Kelly and Adriana, the whole female first team still has to be introduced and maybe there is one LI there, Sasha redhead friend, the twins, goth girl, tattoed girl in the libary.

SG has a almost fantasy level numbers of characters, depending the story Ocean wants to tell, some of these more background characters can grow or not and be a obstacle in Nika's relationship with any give LI. Maybe Zara has a nemesis in the first team, or Jenna don't like Amber and tries to sabote hers relationship out of spite, maybe if you are in both Nami and Mila paths, Nami will try to fuck Mila. But all this depends on what story Ocean wants to tell.
 

warheadd

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Ii is a bit early to do that. But speculation is one of few things to do between updates, I thing that there are some characters we can say will like Nika but are not LIs. I think that most of the book club milfs are a safe bet, not all of them but the one you get the number, Jenna, Charlie, of the younger ones there is Kelly and Adriana, the whole female first team still has to be introduced and maybe there is one LI there, Sasha redhead friend, the twins, goth girl, tattoed girl in the libary.

SG has a almost fantasy level numbers of characters, depending the story Ocean wants to tell, some of these more background characters can grow or not and be a obstacle in Nika's relationship with any give LI. Maybe Zara has a nemesis in the first team, or Jenna don't like Amber and tries to sabote hers relationship out of spite, maybe if you are in both Nami and Mila paths, Nami will try to fuck Mila. But all this depends on what story Ocean wants to tell.
Definitely agree with your reasoning. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that these speculations will be answered anytime soon in regards to how the female characters can interact with each other and Nika in different paths and such. Though, it’s Nika’s fault for all these girls being interested in him. He had to be nerfed down there for a bit to make it fair XD
 

LHDLLB

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The question is what will different LI's consider crossing the line?
I think this is really a good question. We see that Milla has no problems with kissing MC even knowing that he is with Bella, but refuses to go out with him if he has a date with Vic, Vic has no issue in going out with Mc behind Milla's back, Nami has to suffer in silence but also is not shy of abusing of her position to try to seduce Nika, Bella so far is the most open but aside from snarks comments is not bothered by you kissing Milla, Nia aks about your situation with Bella and I think she does not goes as hard if you said you are a thing. I think that will be fun how long you will be able to play the filed without consequences, and how much each LI will be willing to tolerate. Some as Nami and Vic might be more willing to overlook MCs fooling around and/or cheating and sharing while others as Zara and Sasha might be one strike out. I am curious to see how the LI relationship with one another works as almost everyone knows each other and you can't really hide one relationship from another
 

PaxHadrian17

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they can't and they won't do that ! , that will make 'em liable to getting sue for harassment and bad faith,
'cause that is patreon purposely going out of their way looking to punish content creators , for activities outside the content creator control .

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I get that you don't like the reality of the situation - neither do most of us re: Patreon's attacks on dev creativity.

The reality is what I've stated in the post you replied to and the one before where I gave very specific examples.

You disagree with me - now tell me how that changes Anything for the impacted devs.

'they can't and they won't do that !'

Says you...

Show me Anything in the public record where Patreon has apologized for banning devs or putting them under review for content beyond their Patreon pages.

Try throwing memes at Patreon and let us know how that changes their practices... ;)

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

warheadd

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Ii is a bit early to do that. But speculation is one of few things to do between updates, I thing that there are some characters we can say will like Nika but are not LIs. I think that most of the book club milfs are a safe bet, not all of them but the one you get the number, Jenna, Charlie, of the younger ones there is Kelly and Adriana, the whole female first team still has to be introduced and maybe there is one LI there, Sasha redhead friend, the twins, goth girl, tattoed girl in the libary.

SG has a almost fantasy level numbers of characters, depending the story Ocean wants to tell, some of these more background characters can grow or not and be a obstacle in Nika's relationship with any give LI. Maybe Zara has a nemesis in the first team, or Jenna don't like Amber and tries to sabote hers relationship out of spite, maybe if you are in both Nami and Mila paths, Nami will try to fuck Mila. But all this depends on what story Ocean wants to tell.
Maybe a better question is instead a dream scenario. Who would you want to be able to romance in game and how would you want to be able to do so? But even the choices are kind of bare bones given the current state of the game and what we know of the other characters right now.
 
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LHDLLB

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Maybe a better question is instead a dream scenario. Who would you want to be able to romance in game and how would you want to be able to do so? But even the choices are kind of bare bones given the current state of the game and what we know of the other characters right now.
Not at all, there are plenty of characters that people wants as LI, Nojiko, Maja, Ayua, Sasha redhead friend. And others that nobody but Ocean wants as Mrs Marla.

Personally I would find interesting if you could romance the cop sister, forgot her name, Melanie I think. The one who tried to drown Vic. There is some interested way that it could go, but would not migth a "evil" run where you team up with her and everybode is pissed at you because of it
 

Dr.TSoni

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I think this is really a good question. We see that Milla has no problems with kissing MC even knowing that he is with Bella, but refuses to go out with him if he has a date with Vic, Vic has no issue in going out with Mc behind Milla's back, Nami has to suffer in silence but also is not shy of abusing of her position to try to seduce Nika, Bella so far is the most open but aside from snarks comments is not bothered by you kissing Milla, Nia aks about your situation with Bella and I think she does not goes as hard if you said you are a thing. I think that will be fun how long you will be able to play the filed without consequences, and how much each LI will be willing to tolerate. Some as Nami and Vic might be more willing to overlook MCs fooling around and/or cheating and sharing while others as Zara and Sasha might be one strike out. I am curious to see how the LI relationship with one another works as almost everyone knows each other and you can't really hide one relationship from another
We all know who the real problem is
 

Mr_Mister

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I get that you don't like the reality of the situation - neither do most of us re: Patreon's attacks on dev creativity.

The reality is what I've stated in the post you replied to and the one before where I gave very specific examples.

You disagree with me - now tell me how that changes Anything for the impacted devs.

'they can't and they won't do that !'

Says you...

Show me Anything in the public record where Patreon has apologized for banning devs or putting them under review for content beyond their Patreon pages.

Try throwing memes at Patreon and let us know how that changes their practices... ;)

Cheers!! :coffee:
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Marley300

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Yo,

The log is a little late because my sleep schedule is so weird that Wednesday didn't really exist for me... It's... complicated.

1. Blender's Workout plan.

My mind's constantly racing between different software and possible ideas.

During cardio I often think about the games and thingies I could try out.

For example I observe the motion of the treadmill and wonder how hard it would be to replicate in Blender... And then let Zara run on it... How would I handle the air resistance? The friction of her shoes on the rubber...

Then, I had a day where I was reading in bed and the sun was shinning into my room... When the light hits just right, I often observe it and wonder... Why can't I replicate it like this? Do the light bounces work so differently from Iray (Daz) or Blender (Cycles)?

Is the key "indirect" lighting?

...I had to get up and do some testing.

First, I checked how Blender calculates the light bounces... In Blender you can change how often the light bounces around a scene. I created a little room with a window in it and did my tests by having light shine in and see how it illuminates the room at what values...

Then I ported the room to Daz and did the same—and Daz handled it much worse. In Daz, you often have the issue that the light from outside doesn't illuminate the room at all. You need artificial lighting. And there lays the challenge of good renders. It's hard to get right.

The way the light bounces around the room in Daz seems much worse than in Blender. In Blender, I could illuminate the room with a light value of 4833 lumens.

In Daz, I needed over 65000 lumens to replicate the size of the mesh light. It looked much worse in Daz. I documented the process and will go into more detail in the Blender log.

I opened Blender again, opened Miru, who was waiting for me to do some boob physics tests and started lighting her with a singular, indirect light.
Miru_Blender.jpg

This was in a very big room, and the light was positioned on the opposite side, facing the wall.

The HDRI (World) was turned off, and the scene had no lighting besides that one mesh light (and, technically, her headphones).

This gives me a lot of ideas on how to light scenes in the future... But I will also do some more tests soon in Daz... While writing this, I got an idea that I have to try out.

Ennnnoooough... Before I start writing an entire Blender log... Let me get to the end of the Blender part.

Yesterday, however, I came up with a new way to improve my Blender/Marvelous Designer skills.
Usually, I do what I always do: follow my instincts and learn as I go. This worked out for Daz, but Blender combined with Marvelous has so many areas to cover that I needed a better system.

So, I created a workout plan for Blender. It's built exactly like a gym workout plan, with a few additions.

Instead of a Chest/Shoulder day, you have an Animation/Constraint day.

I came up with a few ideas to make it more fun... Geometry Chaos & (Star)Light) are just some of the little events I created that will help me understand everything better.

Or the "Hyptertrophy" 3x10 Blender workout.

For each set (1x10) you create one new render with Girl X, and then make 10 different versions out of it. I change the lighting, the camera angle and so on...

I have come up with 11 challenging events to make it more fun... And I will go into them with the first Blender log... Which will be a fucking Titan of a log.

There's also some good news about Marvelous Designer, but I will include all of this in the Blender Log.

2. Who wore it better - Winner: Elsa

Elsa dominated the last Who Wore It Better poll, so I have created six renders and two extra variations of her in and out of the outfit.
Elsa_2.png

You can find the rest of the renders HERE

3. Season 2 - Chapter 1

I've added an additional big scene to the update. It was supposed to be in S2-CH2, but I thought it would do pretty well in Chapter 1.

The past weeks have been highly productive, with the occasional hiccup from having a circadian rhythm that would leave scientists speechless.

One new element that's going to be introduced in Season 2 are "dynamic outfits".

Sometimes, earlier choices determine what a character wears to a particular event.

In this preview example, we have Mila.

Variation 1
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Variation 2
Mila_V2.png

If there's outfit variation, you can almost always expect two additional character scenes, too.

I think you can imagine what direction both scenes could go... Especially outfit 2.

I have some pretty awesome potential previews, but as promised, I'm limiting myself with what I show now.

So, this little Zara & MC image has to do.
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Chapter 1 will be very generous to Zara fans.

As the number of renders grows, my "fear" of the postwork increases exponentially, and I will have to start thinking about all the coding I must do.

I will have to code the new UIs, the phone, the galleries, etc...

But until then, I'll still have a lot of rendering to do.

I'll see you in two weeks.

Ocean
 
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