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John972

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You're right. Imagine if Ocean reveals puffies for character X, the fandom of character X will not universally applaud. The ship has sailed for most of the main LI, because we've seen most of them topless. Nami with puffies? can't happen without a rework, but if it did, there would be fights of people saying she was perfect before. If Ocean was to show a LI was aroused with larger nipple, most people would blame him for continuity as well, even if we saw the nipple pump scene.
Old WiaB is a wild ride.

I can understand not like change, I don't. But this is not a problem exclusive to Ocean, but to AVNs in general. If really is a problem, I am not sure it is. But I don't doubt that if Sasha was to have puffie nipples or big labias a part of the community would complain. People can have their preferences, I sure have mine, but sometimes I do find a bit odd how much people can fixate on them.
Yeah, I know the "realistic variety" ship sailed a long time ago, and, as I mentioned before, it's a problem with most AVNs.

The problem with calling any body variety "kinks" is that AVNs then all end up with a vanilla sameness. I don't see different breast types and different pelvic area types as kinks. Instead, they just give female NPCs more individuality.

To use poor old Ocean's SG as an example again - you could dim the lights, put a bag on all the LIs heads, and then fuck them in silence, and I guarantee you might not know the difference between Mila and Nadia or Bella and Nami by body type alone.
 

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Outta reacts, but yeah. The problem for me is that making unique characters from the head upis all good, but they should be unique from the neck down as well. AVN pp's are the wurst at this. Everyone's sausage looks the same brand of gristle, yet the DAZ dames seem to love them. If I was them I'd be running away from those rough woods :HideThePain:

The difference is the change. Where a character is one way, then without explanation (see the hoodie Willi vs raccoon hair Willi in the old WiaB renders) is another way, we lose the plausibility. So I'd like diversity because I like unique characters, but if we've seen it, don't change it, that simple. Or be super focused and remember whether the bald guy has a mohawk or is bald etc.
Yeah, part of this is a DAZ limitation, or I think so, never really opened the programam. I would like a more diverse body type but as long as the LI have different personalities and are really different people I don't really mind. Nadia and Mila may have similar bodies but they have distinctive personalities. But yeah, consistence is fundamental, even if I am one of those who did not catch Leia's change until was brought up.


Yeah, I know the "realistic variety" ship sailed a long time ago, and, as I mentioned before, it's a problem with most AVNs.

The problem with calling any body variety "kinks" is that AVNs then all end up with a vanilla sameness. I don't see different breast types and different pelvic area types as kinks. Instead, they just give female NPCs more individuality.

To use poor old Ocean's SG as an example again - you could dim the lights, put a bag on all the LIs heads, and then fuck them in silence, and I guarantee you might not know the difference between Mila and Nadia or Bella and Nami by body type alone.

Yeah, but chances are that is a problem with the tools used to make AVNs, but then we see much of the sameness in 2D where you can go crazy. There are some AVNs who go to the all bodies are beautiful, but they are rare. Just would discord about putting a bag on the head and they all are equal. Nami and Bella have very different body types, maybe Nami and Sasha would be a more fair comparison. Even Mila and Nadia who are similar enough does not have the exact same type of breast. So I would say that a lack of individuality exist, but they are not equal.
 

John972

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Yeah, but chances are that is a problem with the tools used to make AVNs, but then we see much of the sameness in 2D where you can go crazy. There are some AVNs who go to the all bodies are beautiful, but they are rare. Just would discord about putting a bag on the head and they all are equal. Nami and Bella have very different body types, maybe Nami and Sasha would be a more fair comparison. Even Mila and Nadia who are similar enough does not have the exact same type of breast. So I would say that a lack of individuality exist, but they are not equal.
On that point, I have been wondering for a while if Ocean made his own custom areolas, which were rolled out in WIAB for Leia and the likes of Zoey. I don't recall seeing anything like them in any other AVN (probably because they look like they were sown on by Dr Frankenstein, to be frank).

In looking at SG, I think you can condense everything down to two basic breast shape/size types, which means if you take away characteristics like skin tone, you'd have to look twice to differentiate between many LIs when looking at breast close ups. Personally, I get a little more excited playing AVNs with decent breast variety where there is genuine surprise at seeing a LIs breasts for the first time because... life is like a box of chocolates.
 
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Stowhive

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Only problem with this game is waiting 'til the new episode to be release. It's probably most promising game i've ever seen after LoF. I hope the new episode will be released soon
 
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Does anyone have the vanilla game installed to confirm this?

I have the game with the Uncut Mod and looking at the gallery I saw that the pictures of Claire and Maja are their pre-reworked version :KEK::

claire prerework.jpg Maja prerework.jpg

Come on Ocean, keep up the good work with your remasters! :Kappa:.
 
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