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If a deal happens, Chapter 1 gets another cinematic… A really cute one.
There is also royalty free music, right? I hope that he wont throw away "cute video work" just because two musicians dont permit to use their music.


I rewrote-, well restructured Season 2 – Chapter 2. I had an idea for bigger gatherings. Be it the book club, parties or other occasions where a lot of characters get together.
IF you want to gather characters - more sci-fi board game sessions, please.
 
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There is also royalty free music, right? I hope that he wont throw away "cute video work" just because two musicians dont permit to use their music.
Most of it is the kind I'd prefer to mute. And there isn't as much of it available as one might think.

Also, royalty free doesn't necessarily mean copyleft or public domain music that you can use any way you like. Royalty free usually means Creative Commons and a lot of what there is has a clause somewhere in its royalty free license that forbids using it for 18+ content, anyway.
 

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So is the general consensus that the girl in the end is Bella's sister? I've literally never read up on this thread until this moment. Any theories on why the sister is in a coma? It also took me a minute to realize that the item the sister is holding is the teddy Bella stole. Well, looks like it anyways. My guess is that it used to belong to the sister but since she was in a coma Amber gave it to the MC. Also since it was my first time playing both games, How often do updates come out? From the little I've seen and heard from others, It's normally a good wait between them? It makes sense considering the quality of the games but does this dev make excuses and keep pushing back like some other big "dev" that wont get named?
Reason is very likely a car crash/accident like everyone else :ROFLMAO:

The teddy belonged to amber since she was little, she gave it the mc to be a role model of letting something go which is dear to your heart.

Bella didnt agreed with Ambers decision and considers the teddy as something belonging to her family - like a heirloom, so she took it back and gave it to her sister/put it in her room.

(Imo) it was meant to show that things matter to Bella even if her attitude not always displays it
 
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so after more than a year SG hasn't been progressing at all ? Thats a little disappointing. SG sometimes get like 2 update per year, or atleast 2 half updates. Now im not sure if we will get any at this rate this year
 

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so after more than a year SG hasn't been progressing at all ? Thats a little disappointing. SG sometimes get like 2 update per year, or atleast 2 half updates. Now im not sure if we will get any at this rate this year
Ocean decided to do around a 7000 render update and I believe he said all of S1 was around 12000. So he way over did and and there is the smallest amount of optimisum after this he goes back to around 2000 ish render updates shortening the time. But we'll see.
 
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Ocean decided to do around a 7000 render update and I believe he said all of CH 1 was around 12000. So he way over did and and there is the smallest amount of optimisum after this he goes back to around 2000 ish render updates shortening the time. But we'll see.

What do you mean CH1 will have 12000? Wasn't it 7000 for chapter 1? now it turns out that the 7000 renders will be with half a chapter or how is it?

If you already have 5000 renders and you have decided to return to the average of 2300 renders per update, why don't you divide the current work in 2 chapters and that's it? put a plot cut to segment it in 2 chapters and that's it, what's the point of making a chapter that lasts 3 chapters and then continue with shorter chapters?

I don't understand anything...
 

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so after more than a year SG hasn't been progressing at all ? Thats a little disappointing. SG sometimes get like 2 update per year, or atleast 2 half updates. Now im not sure if we will get any at this rate this year
He's too busy with WIAB.....now some here will tell ya that was already factored in but
um yeah :sneaky: ......Someone posted the first chapter has 12000 renders????? I'll believe that
when I see it, sometime late this year?:whistle:{thought it was 7000?}:unsure:
 

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What do you mean CH1 will have 12000? Wasn't it 7000 for chapter 1? now it turns out that the 7000 renders will be with half a chapter or how is it?

If you already have 5000 renders and you have decided to return to the average of 2300 renders per update, why don't you divide the current work in 2 chapters and that's it? put a plot cut to segment it in 2 chapters and that's it, what's the point of making a chapter that lasts 3 chapters and then continue with shorter chapters?

I don't understand anything...
Im sorry S1 was about 12000 S2 CH 1 is set to be 7000

Ocean from Steam:
"I must admit that I overdid it with the size of the next update. It will feature around 7000 still images.
To put this into perspective, Season 1 had 12000 in total.

So the next Chapter is almost as big as 60% of Season 1. "
 
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Ocean decided to do around a 7000 render update and I believe he said all of S1 was around 12000. So he way over did and and there is the smallest amount of optimisum after this he goes back to around 2000 ish render updates shortening the time. But we'll see.
The smallest amount of optimism is that Ocean said he'd go back to smaller sized updates. I'm not sure how that will work with all the branching for the different paths though. If you have 150 unique renders per path with 13 LI's currently, that's already 1950 renders per update, without the story based renders. Or maybe the path specific events will be smaller? I'm really not sure how he'll go back. My guess is that each update will have to have a limited amount of LI specific content to keep the size that low. Currently Sonya, Nadia, Elsa and Marla haven't had much contact with Nika, I don't expect any events more than bumping into them for a coffee or awkward glances in a class or something. But once everyone's paths are open, 1950 is a small number, because then there are all the lewdable characters...

It really depends on how much branching there is, as right now there isn't really a huge amount - although the paths are there, you can see almost all the content in one playthrough with minimal differences. So in a lot of ways, S2 Ch1 sets a bit of the scope for how Ocean will deal with branching.
 

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The smallest amount of optimism is that Ocean said he'd go back to smaller sized updates. I'm not sure how that will work with all the branching for the different paths though. If you have 150 unique renders per path with 13 LI's currently, that's already 1950 renders per update, without the story based renders. Or maybe the path specific events will be smaller? I'm really not sure how he'll go back. My guess is that each update will have to have a limited amount of LI specific content to keep the size that low. Currently Sonya, Nadia, Elsa and Marla haven't had much contact with Nika, I don't expect any events more than bumping into them for a coffee or awkward glances in a class or something. But once everyone's paths are open, 1950 is a small number, because then there are all the lewdable characters...

It really depends on how much branching there is, as right now there isn't really a huge amount - although the paths are there, you can see almost all the content in one playthrough with minimal differences. So in a lot of ways, S2 Ch1 sets a bit of the scope for how Ocean will deal with branching.
Definitely, Some scenarios could include, LI getting ignored for a longer period of time, some LIs maybe getting dropped, like for me at least some of the names Bob mentioned it's hard to see a path for some of these LI not to just be side LIs. It's technically still early for how the amount of time that has actually passed but, like said, some these interactions have been mere greetings and conversations that hold little weight and its hard to envision a path to get where some of the LI already are. Or the size will have to be 4-5 thousand renders or more to somehow keep everyone involved. Im grasping at straws, and this is just me, but maybe half chapters just to keep a somewhat "steady" release timeline. But its all speculation and its just a waiting game like always.
 

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Definitely, Some scenarios could include, LI getting ignored for a longer period of time, some LIs maybe getting dropped, like for me at least some of the names Bob mentioned it's hard to see a path for some of these LI not to just be side LIs. It's technically still early for how the amount of time that has actually passed but, like said, some these interactions have been mere greetings and conversations that hold little weight and its hard to envision a path to get where some of the LI already are. Or the size will have to be 4-5 thousand renders or more to somehow keep everyone involved. Im grasping at straws, and this is just me, but maybe half chapters just to keep a somewhat "steady" release timeline. But its all speculation and its just a waiting game like always.
We've already had half chapters - the ~2200 renders from ch4.5 to ch5 beta for example, before the next ~2000 renders from ch5 beta to full. Ocean dropped the half numbers and now just calls each release a chapter. There's no industry standard that says a chapter is a particular length or has a cliffhanger, or anything. It just is what it is.

The steady release timeline is only achieved by setting realistic targets, so in my mind if he can deliver ~2000 render updates twice a year, we're in a much better place, Ocean's in a much better place. Given he's done ~5200 since the last release (I'm going to guess almost all the work he'd done on season 2 prior to releasing season 1 he's already redone), this isn't impossible. Whether he does it, we'll see. Once we're over this massive release, lets see if he can focus on building a healthier workflow.

As to the LI's well, he didn't intend for a shut in recluse to suddenly date everyone in the first three days of college. It'll be easy to get the rest up to speed, it's simply supplying the opportunities. Zara and Sasha have had the tiniest of interactions, but they both grabbed people's attention in an instant. All Ocean has to do is deliver content and each LI has a rabid fan base who'll want OCean to focus on only that path.... :coffee::sneaky:
 

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There is also royalty free music, right? I hope that he wont throw away "cute video work" just because two musicians dont permit to use their music.

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Ocean uses music for inspiration in his story telling.

I can't begin to guess how many 'cute videos' we will never see because he could not land certain pieces of music that spoke to him.

He may also still feel some of the burn from losing so many of the music licenses from SG S1 (Humble Hey's 'What My Mama Said' and Waykap's 'Give My All To You' are among my favorites that we lost).

It's not that the current music that is used for those scenes is bad - it is that the original music and those scenes combined to make something more than their parts, 2+2 = 5, and the experience of viewing them for the first time hit much harder.

To put it another way - think of the movie Die Hard:

IMO - Bruce Willis helped to make that movie iconic - his swagger, quips and so much more made it bigger and better than just another summer action movie.

Replace Bruce Willis and the movie would still have been a success but think about what you would have lost...

'Yipee Ki-Yay Motherfucker' is forever a favorite Bruce Willis line that would not be the same when delivered by another actor.


We'll still get any number of great videos with some good/great music but when Ocean can find a song that inspires him enough to make a video melding the music, the cinematography Ocean does so well and the story so many of us enjoy - he can deliver Magic.

When CH 1 S2 lands, I'm sure we will have some great music that enhances the scenes that music is tied to.

But...

Ocean is not Hollywood and AVNs are not a truly respected form of storytelling so there is a stigma of 'guilt by association' that part of the music industry shies away from - avoid lewd Unless it's tied to movie making/TV - Then it is okay...

In the end - Artists And AVNs lose out.

I'm off now to listen to Waykap and Humble Hey from a favorite music playlist.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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