RNasc4444

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another one bite the dust !
till this day , i don't get Ocean fascination with making 19 to 21 years old young people look like they're in their mid 30's .
maybe is that Ocean is using"Blunder" instead of Blender ........... ziiiiiiiiiing !
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The man cannot physically stop himself from fiddling with the character models! Give him a break :LOL:

I don't enjoy watching Ayua age 15 years in a day and then going back to her old self the following day either. I mean, my brain struggles enough trying to keep up with Schrodinger's scratches. (Was the damn cat even real?!?!!? Did the MC alucinate that part of the heist?!?!)

But scratchgate aside, we know Ocean's just started dipping his toes in the Blender water. It's gonna take a long while until he's comfortable. And that's fine.

Then again we have to keep in mind we're talking about Ocean here. I fear that once he makes the transition, he will keep fiddling until the entire cast of his game becomes unrecognizable.
 

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I came to read dev vlog and comments.. And ye.. I'm speechless wtf?? Why rewrite Season 2 I replay SG couple of times all fine. Just render inconsistencies which was promised to redo, but that's about it. I don't get this dev anymore. I say put WIAB on a shelf man and focus on SG without any bullshit reworking anymore. But I doubt he will listen.
 
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I came to read dev vlog and comments.. And ye.. I'm speechless wtf?? Why rewrite Season 2 I replay SG couple of times all fine. Just render inconsistencies which was promised to redo, but that's about it. I don't get this dev anymore. I say put WIAB on a shelf man and focus on SG without any bullshit reworking anymore. But I doubt he will listen.
he won't listen because he needs WIAB to make up for his excuses.
 

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I contacted two musicians, sadly one already declined (Reasoning: lewd game)
I don't get why the musicians are not giving permission to use their songs. It's literally free money. Who's gonna know that you let one of your songs to be on some visual novel. It's not like they are that popular so the word is gonna get around either. Just take the money and get on with it. Sure it's a lewd game (even though there are no sex scenes in it yet) but it is a great one, hell give it a try while you're at it.
 
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Dee6902

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I came to read dev vlog and comments.. And ye.. I'm speechless wtf?? Why rewrite Season 2 I replay SG couple of times all fine. Just render inconsistencies which was promised to redo, but that's about it. I don't get this dev anymore. I say put WIAB on a shelf man and focus on SG without any bullshit reworking anymore. But I doubt he will listen.
Thats not what he said. He said he was restructuring S2 Ch2 which means hes just changing what he plans to do.
 
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BobTheDuck

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Ocean's just started dipping his toes in the water
That's all I saw and ...I just can't :ROFLMAO:

I came to read dev vlog and comments.. And ye.. I'm speechless wtf?? Why rewrite Season 2 I replay SG couple of times all fine. Just render inconsistencies which was promised to redo, but that's about it. I don't get this dev anymore. I say put WIAB on a shelf man and focus on SG without any bullshit reworking anymore. But I doubt he will listen.
Season 2 Ch 2 hasn't been made. Fiddling with things that haven't been worked can't be a rework. Most devs do keep fiddling with the things they're yet to start doing. If it hasn't been public, it's not a rework.

Focus on today's problems - we don't have SG S2Ch1. Let's find a solution in the latest games forum while we wait. It's up to Ocean - if you wait too long and lose interest, you'll be happy with the other games you found. But worrying that development means making changes to work that Ocean hasn't even started is intense. Don't let it take over your life! :coffee::whistle:
 

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So is the general consensus that the girl in the end is Bella's sister? I've literally never read up on this thread until this moment. Any theories on why the sister is in a coma? It also took me a minute to realize that the item the sister is holding is the teddy Bella stole. Well, looks like it anyways. My guess is that it used to belong to the sister but since she was in a coma Amber gave it to the MC. Also since it was my first time playing both games, How often do updates come out? From the little I've seen and heard from others, It's normally a good wait between them? It makes sense considering the quality of the games but does this dev make excuses and keep pushing back like some other big "dev" that wont get named?
 
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So is the general consensus that the girl in the end is Bella's sister?
Yep.

Also since it was my first time playing both games, How often do updates come out? From the little I've seen and heard from others, It's normally a good wait between them? It makes sense considering the quality of the games
Updates take a looong time. But you're gonna wait less compared to us because the next update is probably on august-ish. He's working on two games at the same time. The other one "Where it all began" is a prequel to Summer's gone, so go check it out while you wait for sg.

does this dev make excuses and keep pushing back like some other big "dev" that wont get named?
Less excuses, he's more of a perfectionist so he doesn't trust anyone else to help with production so the updates take a heck of a long time.
 

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Yep.



Updates take a looong time. But you're gonna wait less compared to us because the next update is probably on august-ish. He's working on two games at the same time. The other one "Where it all began" is a prequel to Summer's gone, so go check it out while you wait for sg.



Less excuses, he's more of a perfectionist so he doesn't trust anyone else to help with production so the updates take a heck of a long time.
I've actually had both games bookmarked for a while now. Just never got around to it. It's funny because I never knew they were connected. I played Where it all began first and then I had a friend of mine mention that they're connected. I made Miru one of my signatures as soon as I finished lol. I honestly don't mind waiting a good amount of time if the updates are high quality like they are. Now, i'm not entirely sure how long those updates are but i assume the updates are a good size? Does he alternate which one he updates or do they get updated roughly around the same time? Roughly meaning maybe a few weeks?
 
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I've actually had both games bookmarked for a while now. Just never got around to it. It's funny because I never knew they were connected. I played Where it all began first and then I had a friend of mine mention that they're connected. I made Miru one of my signatures as soon as I finished lol. I honestly don't mind waiting a good amount of time if the updates are high quality like they are. Now, i'm not entirely sure how long those updates are but i assume the updates are a good size? Does he alternate which one he updates or do they get updated roughly around the same time? Roughly meaning maybe a few weeks?
Typical update sizes in the past have been ~2300 renders per update. The current update is currently at ~5160 and is aimed to be ~7000. There are some games that would have that as their total size.

Updates are supposed to alternate, but they kinda end up impacting each other. Currently it's WiaB's turn, as that's the imminent update, once that's on steam, Ocean's going to focus on SG to get that update out. After that, hopefully he'll settle back to the reasonable ~2300 render updates, which he should be able to deliver more reliably. :HideThePain:

A few weeks is but the blink of an eye in the Oceanverse. A mere drop. You'll need a bigger measure of time. I'm sure all the residents of the thread will tell you how long you'll wait and make jokes about retirement homes. If you like the games be prepared to do other things while you wait and don't hold your breath. I drink coffee :coffee::whistle:
 

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So is the general consensus that the girl in the end is Bella's sister? I've literally never read up on this thread until this moment. Any theories on why the sister is in a coma? It also took me a minute to realize that the item the sister is holding is the teddy Bella stole. Well, looks like it anyways. My guess is that it used to belong to the sister but since she was in a coma Amber gave it to the MC. Also since it was my first time playing both games, How often do updates come out? From the little I've seen and heard from others, It's normally a good wait between them? It makes sense considering the quality of the games but does this dev make excuses and keep pushing back like some other big "dev" that wont get named?
Reason is very likely a car crash/accident like everyone else :ROFLMAO:

The teddy belonged to amber since she was little, she gave it the mc to be a role model of letting something go which is dear to your heart.

Bella didnt agreed with Ambers decision and considers the teddy as something belonging to her family - like a heirloom, so she took it back and gave it to her sister/put it in her room.

(Imo) it was meant to show that things matter to Bella even if her attitude not always displays it
 
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so after more than a year SG hasn't been progressing at all ? Thats a little disappointing. SG sometimes get like 2 update per year, or atleast 2 half updates. Now im not sure if we will get any at this rate this year
 

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so after more than a year SG hasn't been progressing at all ? Thats a little disappointing. SG sometimes get like 2 update per year, or atleast 2 half updates. Now im not sure if we will get any at this rate this year
Ocean decided to do around a 7000 render update and I believe he said all of S1 was around 12000. So he way over did and and there is the smallest amount of optimisum after this he goes back to around 2000 ish render updates shortening the time. But we'll see.
 
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Ocean decided to do around a 7000 render update and I believe he said all of CH 1 was around 12000. So he way over did and and there is the smallest amount of optimisum after this he goes back to around 2000 ish render updates shortening the time. But we'll see.

What do you mean CH1 will have 12000? Wasn't it 7000 for chapter 1? now it turns out that the 7000 renders will be with half a chapter or how is it?

If you already have 5000 renders and you have decided to return to the average of 2300 renders per update, why don't you divide the current work in 2 chapters and that's it? put a plot cut to segment it in 2 chapters and that's it, what's the point of making a chapter that lasts 3 chapters and then continue with shorter chapters?

I don't understand anything...
 

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so after more than a year SG hasn't been progressing at all ? Thats a little disappointing. SG sometimes get like 2 update per year, or atleast 2 half updates. Now im not sure if we will get any at this rate this year
He's too busy with WIAB.....now some here will tell ya that was already factored in but
um yeah :sneaky: ......Someone posted the first chapter has 12000 renders????? I'll believe that
when I see it, sometime late this year?:whistle:{thought it was 7000?}:unsure:
 

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What do you mean CH1 will have 12000? Wasn't it 7000 for chapter 1? now it turns out that the 7000 renders will be with half a chapter or how is it?

If you already have 5000 renders and you have decided to return to the average of 2300 renders per update, why don't you divide the current work in 2 chapters and that's it? put a plot cut to segment it in 2 chapters and that's it, what's the point of making a chapter that lasts 3 chapters and then continue with shorter chapters?

I don't understand anything...
Im sorry S1 was about 12000 S2 CH 1 is set to be 7000

Ocean from Steam:
"I must admit that I overdid it with the size of the next update. It will feature around 7000 still images.
To put this into perspective, Season 1 had 12000 in total.

So the next Chapter is almost as big as 60% of Season 1. "
 
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