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I wont pretend that I understand devlopment, but he has not already previewed how the new menus and the like will be ? I don't know how hard it is to code it into the game but I felt like this was something that was not ready but thought out.
Oh he does. He showed the new GUI some days after Steam release. It was already done. Coding a GUI doesn't take much. Maybe he took a week for it and tried several things until he was pleased, but that would be already slow. We shouldn't forget we talk about Ren'Py. It's not that hard.
 

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It's not that hard, but don't forget that he released WIAB with an empty gallery on the Steam release
Well, we're talking about Ocean here. There's a big bug in Gallery of Summer's Gone and also a major bug with one variable he didn't fixed until today. Like I said, Ren'Py isn't hard. If you ask me, Ocean just making excuses. I don't think he's lazy. Don't get me wrong. I just think he's not able to work straight and focused. I think we all can give him he's a very great artist when it comes to rendering. Even his haters can't deny it. But personally I think he lacks in the discipline to just work on the current part until it's done before switching to another part. At least that's the impression I got after reading numerous of his devlogs.
 

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I wont pretend that I understand devlopment, but he has not already previewed how the new menus and the like will be ? I don't know how hard it is to code it into the game but I felt like this was something that was not ready but thought out.
Earlier previews from year ago, 2024-04-17
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-13499856

More advanced concept for both SG and WiAB. Devlog from 2025-05-21
https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-full-oceanlab.19856/post-17053793

I think there were some additional details about the new UI somewhere (phone apps concept and such), but I'm too lazy to look for them.
 
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Earlier previews from year ago, 2024-04-17
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-13499856

More advanced concept for both SG and WiAB. Devlog from 2025-05-21
https://f95zone.to/threads/where-it-all-began-ch-3-full-oceanlab.19856/post-17053793

I think there were some additional details about the new UI somewhere (phone apps concept and such), but I'm too lazy to look for them.
Oh he does. He showed the new GUI some days after Steam release. It was already done. Coding a GUI doesn't take much. Maybe he took a week for it and tried several things until he was pleased, but that would be already slow. We shouldn't forget we talk about Ren'Py. It's not that hard.
Yeah, that was what I was talking about. Provided that he knows how it will look like, things should go a bit faster. I don't really understand code só I can't say for that but at least the design side of things is done
 

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Yeah, that was what I was talking about. Provided that he knows how it will look like, things should go a bit faster. I don't really understand code só I can't say for that but at least the design side of things is done
Phone apps will definitely take time to code. Especially the new ones like Venus and Aurora.
 

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Phone apps will definitely take time to code. Especially the new ones like Venus and Aurora.
Yeah, but he got a coder for this ones, or not ? I remember something along those lines. I am here long enough to know that Ocean hates coding and also is not great at it
 

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Yeah, but he got a coder for this ones, or not ? I remember something along those lines. I am here long enough to know that Ocean hates coding and also is not great at it
He certainly has a guy who does the ui, but I don't know if that guy helps him with the coding too. And yeah, he hates writing code himself, but he hates irresponsible "experts" who have screwed him several times even more. :HideThePain:
 

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Im sorry what? Doesnt make any sense for a December update. As for the last devlog, there are about 1800 renders left. In devlog 34 he targeted 55 renders per day, but lets say its the 45 he is averaging, so lets say 35, thats 51 days of creating renders, and lets say about other 30 days of rendering, so 3 months of renders. Are you really telling me you need 2 months of only coding? Its not like you have to create all the HUD or write the story, because you already have that since you have already shown it. Maybe its just a placeholder image and you have to create the coding to connect everything, but Im sure its not that difficult. Now that Wiabs update is out, you dont have an excuse to not work solely on Sg, but yeah, why work faster when you can create the community treats and other stuff in the meantime?
 

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Im sorry what? Doesnt make any sense for a December update. As for the last devlog, there are about 1800 renders left. In devlog 34 he targeted 55 renders per day, but lets say its the 45 he is averaging, so lets say 35, thats 51 days of creating renders, and lets say about other 30 days of rendering, so 3 months of renders. Are you really telling me you need 2 months of only coding? Its not like you have to create all the HUD or write the story, because you already have that since you have already shown it. Maybe its just a placeholder image and you have to create the coding to connect everything, but Im sure its not that difficult. Now that Wiabs update is out, you dont have an excuse to not work solely on Sg, but yeah, why work faster when you can create the community treats and other stuff in the meantime?
He might be taking also some time off after WIAB rellease. It's summer, and he got one workload off his chest, so it might be very well possible he want, or need some time to himself. Also it's Ocean, so takes those rellease date things with grain of salt.
 
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