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Crashbullet

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There is literally nothing violating their ToS in SG.
It's either an issue on their end
Or a large number of people reported the game on Patreon, triggering their automatic response.
So, where should we start "bombing"? Mail, X ?
 

sorco2003

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There is literally nothing violating their ToS in SG.
It's either an issue on their end
Or a large number of people reported the game on Patreon, triggering their automatic response.
Ocean already explained it, when they banned WIAB, they banned him as a person (yes, they are just now letting him know that).
 

Niuul

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There is literally nothing violating their ToS in SG.
It's either an issue on their end
Or a large number of people reported the game on Patreon, triggering their automatic response.
Is there a precedence for "evading" a ban by a creator? even though it's 2 different projects? I can see them banning Ocean if he was actively promoting WiAB, a banned game, on the SG page.
 
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LHDLLB

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Is there a precedence for "evading" a ban by a creator? even though it's 2 different projects? I can see them banning Ocean if he was actively promoting WiAB, a banned game, on the SG page.
He was not and he has said that he also dosen't know why wiab was banned as it also did not violated TOS. He probably has a case but does he have the money to figth Patreon on court ? At this point I have to wonder if someone inside just don't hate him for some reason.
 

Tremonia

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Is there a precedence for "evading" a ban by a creator? even though it's 2 different projects? I can see them banning Ocean if he was actively promoting WiAB, a banned game, on the SG page.
When I remember correctly Patreon only allows one account, so two accounts, one for SG and one for WIAB, wasn't allowed to begin with. Patreon don't want to fundraise WIAB. How should they made sure no cent Ocean gets from his SG site goes into WIAB?
 

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When I remember correctly Patreon only allows one account, so two accounts, one for SG and one for WIAB, wasn't allowed to begin with. Patreon don't want to fundraise WIAB. How should they made sure no cent Ocean gets from his SG site goes into WIAB?
That makes sense since all the other developers I know of who are working on multiple projects have one Patreon account. It seemed odd that Ocean had two, but I haven't followed his games for long.
 

Niuul

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When I remember correctly Patreon only allows one account, so two accounts, one for SG and one for WIAB, wasn't allowed to begin with. Patreon don't want to fundraise WIAB. How should they made sure no cent Ocean gets from his SG site goes into WIAB?
I had to go look



Apparently you can have multiple projects independently. But also " Yes, if you are banned from Patreon for violating their guidelines, they can ban all other accounts associated with your identity "

So yeah... that might be it folks. Just weird it took this long for it to happen after the WiAB ban. Guess having Ocean and ImNotOcean (Oceanlab) as the accounts wasn't a good idea.
 

RNasc4444

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will Vic explode like Thunder in BTILC
I was gonna call you old but the fact that I understood the reference immediately even though I was born a few years after that movie came out, doesn't bode well for me either :LOL:

... holy shit.
now what the fuck will y'all talk about 24/7?!?!?!
:eek::oops::rolleyes::unsure:
Welp...guess I'll just retire this account then because wtf is the point of it if I can't bitch about SG anymore?
 

Maviarab

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Leia and William being siblings and it was mentioned they fucked. And they weren't also 18 years old.
Describing something in the past is not against their ToS 'at the time it was banned'. Also, there is no actual stating they did anything...at all...just impied and heresay/gossip.

The fact still remains, whatever the reasons, they were not explciit in saying so.
 

Niuul

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I'm not in the clear.Is this another excuse why there won't be an update?
Was there a patreon update i missed? THX
Summer's Gone patreon was removed entirely. I noticed this morning and it was posted to the discord a little later by Mav asking what had happened.

According to Ocean they've received an email about it from patreon and it's because of Ocean themselves, not SG specifically. Which means it's likely due to WiAB being banned a long time ago which meant all associated accounts should have been taken down as well for review but SG never was so it was like ban evasion (I'm assuming). Wasn't dinged until last night or this morning. I'm sure he'll let us know more as he finds out. Said he was speaking to his lawyers.
 

DarkOs31

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Summer's Gone patreon was removed entirely. I noticed this morning and it was posted to the discord a little later by Mav asking what had happened.

According to Ocean they've received an email about it from patreon and it's because of Ocean themselves, not SG specifically. Which means it's likely due to WiAB being banned a long time ago which meant all associated accounts should have been taken down as well for review but SG never was so it was like ban evasion (I'm assuming). Wasn't dinged until last night or this morning. I'm sure he'll let us know more as he finds out. Said he was speaking to his lawyers.
Sounds like bullshitt to me,Ocean seems to be from europe,the laws he reffered to sound like european laws.
 

Maviarab

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Summer's Gone patreon was removed entirely. I noticed this morning and it was posted to the discord a little later by Mav asking what had happened.

According to Ocean they've received an email about it from patreon and it's because of Ocean themselves, not SG specifically. Which means it's likely due to WiAB being banned a long time ago which meant all associated accounts should have been taken down as well for review but SG never was so it was like ban evasion (I'm assuming). Wasn't dinged until last night or this morning. I'm sure he'll let us know more as he finds out. Said he was speaking to his lawyers.
Yeah if the actual reason 'is' because it's a different account....then yes it should have gone at the same time (multi accounts is against their ToS)....then he really hasn't a leg to stand on at all. He will never get an account back or be able to create a new one.
 
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