SweatyDevil

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it just sounds a bit egoistical to me that's all, like patreon have a vendetta against him or something
They might have actually :unsure:. Maybe it's really stupid thought, but it could be cause of Ocean was participating in the GOG fight again censorship, with the free games bundle. With how the "bullshit" companies works these days, it might be connected somehow.
 

Niuul

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it just sounds a bit egoistical to me that's all, like patreon have a vendetta against him or something
Probably worded it wrong. He just meant it's a ban of the creator, not because of SG specifically. I'm just curious why it took as long as it did. Not like he went out of his way to hide the fact he was making both games and both were on patreon.
 

Elduriel

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What did Patreon have against WIAB!???
incest I think. You know, fucking your sister and such
They might have actually :unsure:. Maybe it's really stupid thought, but it could be cause of Ocean was participating in the GOG fight again censorship, with the free games bundle. With how the "bullshit" companies works these days, it might be connected somehow.
doubt it, ain't big enough of a fish I'd wager for someone up the food chain to give that kind of "order"
 

Elduriel

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Probably worded it wrong. He just meant it's a ban of the creator, not because of SG specifically. I'm just curious why it took as long as it did. Not like he went out of his way to hide the fact he was making both games and both were on patreon.
as I said, without more context, that's how I interpreted it
 

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Seems to be a very recent development...

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Summer's Gone's Patreon page has been deleted by Patreon.
I will get in contact with my lawyers and see what can be done.

~ OCEAN

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Well, this definitely wasn't on my bingo card. Ok, guys, it was a pleasure waiting with you. See you sometime in the unknown future.:HideThePain:
 
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Niuul

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So... with patreon gone, can we get Sister Nami back now. Please. :whistle:

(FYI, I know it probably won't happen unfortunately, but one can hope)
Depends how strict SS is on their platform and it might not even be worth it because of credit card crap going on. Who knows, Ocean might just wash his hands of it all too after losing the Patreon paycheque since SS games generally don't do that well. Since I really don't see patreon giving the page back.
 

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Awwww, that's just too bad guess we aint got to wait anymore on to other AVNs it's been a blast people ,I wish you all the best. :p :LOL::coffee:
 

Massagecook01

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Ocean's phrasing might not be the best when he talks about Patreon since the WIAB incident.
Ocean like other Developers broke the rules of Patreon and they paid for it, I'm not a bit surpised can't break the rules of a platform you are on and think you are above those rules, you might get away with it for a while even years but eventually you will get caught like we have all seen, tough luck for Ocean.;):coffee:
 

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I know. But you know how it works with Patreon. They don't care. I'm totally sure they don't even look into the content they ban. When enough complains came in or they found something on Discord servers, they just act. Some games were even banned because of fan made mods. I remember there was a game a few years ago where they even argued with tags from F95. Can't say which one anymore because I never played it and just read about it back then, but Patreon does Patreon things. It's a shame though. According to their TOS they had to ban the Bible and Quran because of the content and a lot of work that's considered as world literature. It's modern times and it doesn't help the world is becoming more and more prude.
i also remember devs to whom this happened but in my opinion it's complicated situation for both creator and patreon

imagine owning platform like patreon and someone like payment processors is fucking you in ass to not allow certain types of content. otherwise they will shut you down and you will be bankrupt. what would you do? any rational business owner would go with that. so no i don't think patreon plays any role in this in terms of decision making. they are simply forced to do things they might never do if it wasn't for VISA and all this shit companies

at the same time as creator you know what you should and shouldn't do to avoid getting into trouble. but what is your responsibility for when there are million incest patches flying from one side to other? how hard is it to download them, write one email and send it with accusations to patreon? add few threatening sentences about how you will contact payment processors if patreon doesn't ban creator and you just won

people should look at Steam. company like valve is being bullied by payment processors. who would have ever thought that right? if they can get away with shit like that on steam imagine how much manipulation there must be with patreon. it's not about platform. it's same everywhere and will be same as long as you use visa etc
 

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imagine owning platform like patreon and someone like payment processors is fucking you in ass to not allow certain types of content. otherwise they will shut you down and you will be bankrupt. what would you do?
That's the good thing I live in a free country where financial corporations and banks can't just force things onto you and/or end a customer relationship. Not when they're so called "essential". In fact you can even force them to take you as a customer. Consumer rights beats almost everything here. But the home of VISA and Mastercard isn't free I guess.
 
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That's the good thing I live in a free country where financial corporations and banks can't just force things onto you and/or end a customer relationship. Not when they're so called "essential". In fact you can even force them to take you as a customer. Consumer rights beats almost everything here. But the home of VISA and Mastercard isn't free I guess.
and those two are the big ones unfortunately that have a pretty big reach across continents.
 

Tremonia

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and those two are the big ones unfortunately that have a pretty big reach across continents.
Well, here they've to act after the local laws and they do. The problem is just that Patreon is based where it is, and that's why Ocean has this problem now. VISA and Mastercard couldn't do shit against Patreon here. As long as Patreon don't do things against local laws. But to be fair, it's their law there and Ocean, and every other creator on Patreon, has to respect that when they make an account there. It sucks, because personally I like SG and WIAB, but Ocean knew the TOS.
 

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I think this has to be some type of error due to the fact SG does not have any lewd scenes in at all. Once it get resolved I am pretty sure the page will come back on Patreon.
 
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