VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[mruggeri2]

Well, that sucks.

But on the bright side - if there is one -, SG is a huge game with a huge community following it, so if Ocean switches to SS or some other site, a good chunk will follow and be willing to subscribe there. I hope thats enough for him to keep going. But one thing is for sure, he needs to show some work now. No more excuses, no more delays. He needs to release his new chapter now if he wants people to keep supporting him.

 

[El_Magnifico]

Well, that sucks.

But on the bright side - if there is one -, SG is a huge game with a huge community following it, so if Ocean switches to SS or some other site, a good chunk will follow and be willing to subscribe there. I hope thats enough for him to keep going. But one thing is for sure, he needs to show some work now. No more excuses, no more delays. He needs to release his new chapter now if he wants people to keep supporting him.

Or he could threaten his fanbase to never deliver season 2 if they don't switch to SS

 

[Joan6969]

Or he could threaten his fanbase to never deliver season 2 if they don't switch to SS

Yeah that should work!

 

[G27111]

Problem is when a game takes so long people will just start to lose interest, Ive never gotten on him about the long updates and lack of content for the time he has been doing it but add this onto it which will likely make it even less updates and yeah people will forget and move on.

Trying to do 2 games at once with such high quality is a lot, If he had chose one from the beginning and just went with that he would be a lot further through it and this kind of thing might not even be a problem. But yeah im definitely not going to wait another 5 years to potentially get a couple updates, ill check back and stuff but its better to just not expect anything and maybe get a surprise.

 

[SToyS]

Problem is when a game takes so long people will just start to lose interest

I think the problem here is not the size of the game, but the release of updates. Some developers, like Ocean and DPC, release large updates once a year, but that's wrong. They need to make small updates, but often, so people don't lose interest in the game. This old life hack really works, I noticed that I lost interest in games that take a long time to release updates. I even stopped watching BAD because I got tired of waiting for updates and lost interest.

 

[G27111]

I think the problem here is not the size of the game, but the release of updates. Some developers, like Ocean and DPC, release large updates once a year, but that's wrong. They need to make small updates, but often, so people don't lose interest in the game. This old life hack really works, I noticed that I lost interest in games that take a long time to release updates. I even stopped watching BAD because I got tired of waiting for updates and lost interest.

Im not talking about the size of the game, im talking about how long it's actually taken to be made.

 

[Joshy92]

I don't think people realise that it's not just as simple as going over to SS. Devs who lose their Patreon and rely on SS have often said that it just doesn't have the reach that Patreon does.

Now yes some very taboo games do well on SS but SG isn't one of those games, it's a story focused avn with not much sexy stuff so it's already at a disadvantage. I do hope Ocean can find a way to continue these games, but the current climate makes things very tricky for many avn devs.

And apparently Steam isn't allowing early access avns anymore so he'd have to sell each chapter separately as full DLC. Let's just cross fingers and hope it all works out.

 

[Joan6969]

I don't think people realise that it's not just as simple as going over to SS. Devs who lose their Patreon and rely on SS have often said that it just doesn't have the reach that Patreon does.

Now yes some very taboo games do well on SS but SG isn't one of those games, it's a story focused avn with not much sexy stuff so it's already at a disadvantage. I do hope Ocean can find a way to continue these games, but the current climate makes things very tricky for many avn devs.

And apparently Steam isn't allowing early access avns anymore so he'd have to sell each chapter separately as full DLC. Let's just cross fingers and hope it all works out.

Yeah I was just over on the SS site and I notice he has about 370 $ subs and
about 2700 who follow. He might want think about putting what he has
now on steam in a few months as an dlc or complete game since he wasn't
far off from 8,000 renders. That's a good amount of game content for SG.
Bigger than half the junk in the AVN's on steam.

 

[Niuul]

Apparently he said that working on two games at the same time is making him avoid burn out, that's what i heard some time ago from idk where, even though it sounds illogical to me because it's much harder to work on two games than only one.

It's fascinating to me that there are people who still support him seeing how every update just takes longer and longer to be made.

But whatever, i'm not the one who gives him money so it's his business

Yeah, I'll die on the hill that making 2 games at the same time while probably writing here and there for the supposed other games in this universe was the wrong move. I mean, are you really going to "burn out" when you're making massive amounts of money each month, while seeing your project actually move along instead of being stuck at season 1 after 5 years?

I guess hindsight is 20/20 though after shit hit the fan with Patreon TOS and Collective Shout.

 

[burbero]

Because Visa and Mastercard are acting as the moral police, all platforms, including Steam, have resorted to restrictions out of fear and are further increasing them. I don't think any developer is safe. Within a few years, sexuality could be banned entirely from games. I think the major developers of visual novels should collaborate and find a solution. Perhaps they could create their own payment methods or collectively agree to move to a secure platform. The most important thing is that they need to unite.

 

[shenlao]

Because Visa and Mastercard are acting as the moral police, all platforms, including Steam, have resorted to restrictions out of fear and are further increasing them. I don't think any developer is safe. Within a few years, sexuality could be banned entirely from games. I think the major developers of visual novels should collaborate and find a solution. Perhaps they could create their own payment methods or collectively agree to move to a secure platform. The most important thing is that they need to unite.

I don't think nudity content will completely banned from games, its only bullshit move from them to restrict some of contents for whatever reason it is. If they want to want act as moralist then they must ban those war games, crime games and even those "woke" bullshit themes.

Beside, until now SG doesn't have any explicit sexual content for steam version. What Ocean have to face right now is obviously because WIAB impact.

 

[burbero]

I don't think nudity content will completely banned from games, its only bullshit move from them to restrict some of contents for whatever reason it is. If they want to want act as moralist then they must ban those war games, crime games and even those "woke" bullshit themes.

Beside, until now SG doesn't have any explicit sexual content for steam version. What Ocean have to face right now is obviously because WIAB impact.

I don't think it's just WIAB. It seems like Patreon is now banning content involving incest, student-teacher relationships, and step relationships. Even if Summer's Gone didn't contain banned content, it implied it. The truly terrifying thing is that everything is now a gray area for Patreon. Anything could get you banned one day.

 

[_Orion_]

I don't think people realise that it's not just as simple as going over to SS. Devs who lose their Patreon and rely on SS have often said that it just doesn't have the reach that Patreon does.

Now yes some very taboo games do well on SS but SG isn't one of those games, it's a story focused avn with not much sexy stuff so it's already at a disadvantage. I do hope Ocean can find a way to continue these games, but the current climate makes things very tricky for many avn devs.

And apparently Steam isn't allowing early access avns anymore so he'd have to sell each chapter separately as full DLC. Let's just cross fingers and hope it all works out.

he's got almost 5k dollars on subscribestar, a lot of people moved over there that's not an issue, let's just hope he releases ch2 sooner rather than later and get a boost to that, it's all up to him at this point

 

[Zolkane]

I cannot stop playing....the story is so good.
Lets bring all the theory here

- sasha probably knew summer and maybe bella sister and got kidnapped.
Sasha survive, bellasister coma and summer dead.
Sasha know summer because they were 2 rich family and they were friends i guess!!
All the reason why she keep stalking nika.
- maybe bella sister is another? But i am pretty sure sasha summer is related.
The kidnapped is the reason shes not fan of man and why she got at least 1 bodyguard or 2.

- nami i think she touch nika younger and did things to him and why is a little like that or she did something to summer. Maybe she push summer out to go somewhere else because she was jealous and its that moment summer got kidnap.

-nojiko and all the milfs know where nika and nami come from.
Jenna the redmilf said nojiko had great idea to have them....something along thoses lines and nika said ????? And she respond NVM.
Is they related to one of the big families?

-katie had interest to Nami particuly if i can recall and MC i think. She keep watching him and her...or just her lol

What you guys think and if you have others theory please tell me !!!!

 

[shenlao]

I don't think it's just WIAB. It seems like Patreon is now banning content involving incest, student-teacher relationships, and step relationships. Even if Summer's Gone didn't contain banned content, it implied it. The truly terrifying thing is that everything is now a gray area for Patreon. Anything could get you banned one day.

Yeah its true about that, but i think later similar platform will rise up to rival Patreon with more loose regulation, so its only matter of time tho.

 

[_Orion_]

Yeah its true about that, but i think later similar platform will rise up to rival Patreon with more loose regulation, so its only matter of time tho.

SubscribeStar profits off of this for now, when they'll get as big as Patreon they'll follow suit for sure

 

[Don Sucio]

Because Visa and Mastercard are acting as the moral police, all platforms, including Steam, have resorted to restrictions out of fear and are further increasing them. I don't think any developer is safe. Within a few years, sexuality could be banned entirely from games. I think the major developers of visual novels should collaborate and find a solution. Perhaps they could create their own payment methods or collectively agree to move to a secure platform. The most important thing is that they need to unite.

Could be an interesting initiative, but I think most devs prefer to be destroyed before search for a solution together.

About sexuality being out of games in a future I don't think so. I think the game industry is very safe when it comes about consoles or pc. Of course incest and others are forbidden nowadays but all sexuality content? It's just impossible, I don't think about a GTA without nudes, or a new Baldurs Gate... But those are BIG games, if we are talking about avns, then yeah, I think at some point all plattforms are going to ban this type of games, games made by independent devs. It sucks imo. But this future is away, not tomorrow, not in a year.

 

[Miranha157]

I cannot stop playing....the story is so good.
Lets bring all the theory here

Nobody wants to know about theory, man, the game has been 6 years without any news lol, besides having censorship and changing surnames.

 

[Lorenz1]

Eh, to be honest, with a "once huge release a 1.5/2 years" ocean already quit the subscription model and entered indi studio model with purely steam sales. There is a limit to how long space between releases can be before people stop paying subscription.

 

[tremologuitar14]

Can anyone help with Mac download? I can't seem to figure out how to make it run or if I need new software for it. Please help