Warscared

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originally it was not a 1 man team! ocean was just writing the story! so until he releases one of the games on steam and it will be SG`s since the other one is incest, he will not have enough support to hire anyone or buy hardware to speed up the development process!

what i hope is that the story is already written!

Dude, i think i definitely need help. i'm really attached to every character that was mentally broken cause i really feel the need to help him/her, that's why i love this game MC, Bella, and Cece from LoF so much. But Bella, oh it actually scares me, i'm pretty much a geek with passion in writing, cinema, and videogames(doesn't get more generic than that), i also watch a fair amount of famous anime and i'm a pretty much proud introvert(but i only have problem to speak with older and younger people). But i never ever look at myself as a creep, i was definitely a pervert but i was always fairly normal about my liking and anything really, until i play this game, Bella..... a fucking fictional character...... i might've fallen for her just a bit. I don't know what the fuck happen i was playing and she's my favorite girl and yeah the game is awesome and all but after that, as time keeps moving forward and when i sometime look at this game on this site, the first thing i remember was Bella and.... a Fucking smile escapes from my lips, at first i was a bit shocked at myself but then it keeps happening again and again and eventually i think of her before i go to sleep, well i don't think i'm sexually obsessed with a fictional character, but still... she haunt me, and it's about damn time until she literally haunts my dream. And that my buddy duddy, is when the first time of my life that i thought of myself being a fucking creep, and it scares me even more that i might have a throwma or a phasmaphobia, idk if that's even the right word but u have to understand that i was really scared now, what do you guys think i should do? is this stuff even normal?

Well while most of what written there is true the story i told was moderately dramatized, idk man it was 2 am and i just want to write something, and before the grammar nazi fucking come and scold me, yes bitch i know how trauma is spelled, i spelled it like that to add a comedy effect, you should definitely try some. (oh sorry for the grammar nazi that was offended, its not me talking, its this Bella girl that keeps on living in my mind, she's a meanie)
the answer you are looking for is yes!

Men are particularity susceptible to visual stimulation!

as for the grammar thingies i have no clue but add spaces and avoid walls of text please! makes it easier and friendlier to read!
 
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Men are particularity susceptible to visual stimulation!
Even for a fictional character? but really i never even got this kind of stuff on a real life person except my ex, i was sexually attracted to a lot of celebrity but i never think of them and then a smile escape my face. it just feels like Bella is hijacking my brain because at first i do love Bella but not THIS much.

I think its good as of now i don't feel any obsession at her but that means one thing, i was attracted to her not sexually but as in a romance, ugh that thought scares me more.
as for the grammar thingies i have no clue but add spaces and avoid walls of text please! makes it easier and friendlier to read!
yeah i even noticed it myself while i write, but its just like a burst of word and its 2 am so idk where to split my writing.
 
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Dude, i think i definitely need help. i'm really attached to every character that was mentally broken cause i really feel the need to help him/her, that's why i love this game MC, Bella, and Cece from LoF so much. But Bella, oh it actually scares me, i'm pretty much a geek with passion in writing, cinema, and videogames(doesn't get more generic than that), i also watch a fair amount of famous anime and i'm a pretty much proud introvert(but i only have problem to speak with older and younger people). But i never ever look at myself as a creep, i was definitely a pervert but i was always fairly normal about my liking and anything really, until i play this game, Bella..... a fucking fictional character...... i might've fallen for her just a bit. I don't know what the fuck happen i was playing and she's my favorite girl and yeah the game is awesome and all but after that, as time keeps moving forward and when i sometime look at this game on this site, the first thing i remember was Bella and.... a Fucking smile escapes from my lips, at first i was a bit shocked at myself but then it keeps happening again and again and eventually i think of her before i go to sleep, well i don't think i'm sexually obsessed with a fictional character, but still... she haunt me, and it's about damn time until she literally haunts my dream. And that my buddy duddy, is when the first time of my life that i thought of myself being a fucking creep, and it scares me even more that i might have a throwma or a phasmaphobia, idk if that's even the right word but u have to understand that i was really scared now, what do you guys think i should do? is this stuff even normal?

Well while most of what written there is true the story i told was moderately dramatized, idk man it was 2 am and i just want to write something, and before the grammar nazi fucking come and scold me, yes bitch i know how trauma is spelled, i spelled it like that to add a comedy effect, you should definitely try some. (oh sorry for the grammar nazi that was offended, its not me talking, its this Bella girl that keeps on living in my mind, she's a meanie)
I know that feeling. Welcome to the team. Been falling in love with fictional characters since 2007-2008... Selenia from Arthur and the Minimoys was the first. Bella... Well she is the last...
It really becomes problem IRL and causes depression... :cautious:
But time heals. Not completely, but you can live with this
 

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I know that feeling. Welcome to the team. Been falling in love with fictional characters since 2007-2008... Selenia from Arthur and the Minimoys was the first. Bella... Well she is the last...
It really becomes problem IRL and causes depression... :cautious:
But time heals. Not completely, but you can live with this
Haha well yeah, even though i was actually concerned by the thought, i think it was still quite manageable rn and i moderately dramatized my story, but what got me thinking hard its the depression tho, like damn actually if this story came to an end and i part ways with Bella especially after an 30 chapter long story i would be depressed as fuck tho.
 

HenzoStar

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Ayo after writing that short story, idk why but i feel like i deserve to know when is the next update release window, its gotta be this month right?
 

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Hey guys, it's been a long time since I didn't have take a look at the topic ( 100 pages ), can you tell me when, approximately, chapter 4 will be released ? :coffee:
 

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I don't know if it's me. But anyone here have the same feeling as me. That Bella got sexually assaulted when she was younger
Doesn't seem to be the case considering she's fine with physical contact.
That probably ended bad for her little friend. Just that scene in the gym with Mc and Bella, While she tried to arouse the Mc and he didn't react to her attempt. I felt that her mental /physical guard went down

Don't know if this was discussed before
I highly doubt those who has experienced sexual assaults can initiate that kind of physicality towards another person.
 

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I dont think this game will even be finished in 10 years, i don't think it's even possible.
If a developer garners enough support he/she can hire staff to help him/her prosecute the work. Many studios with a heavy workload employ extra programmers and artists to assist them and significantly speed up development, but of course unless the original developer(s) is/are rewarded adequately for THEIR efforts THEY won't have the means to be able to afford skilled temporary or permanent staff to do that. The best way to help OceanLab is to support them on a regular basis, if you are able to, via Patreon or Subscriber. That is the singular most effective way to help speed up development.

Just sayin'. (y)
 
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If a developer garners enough support he/she can hire staff to help him/her prosecute the work. Many studios with a heavy workload employee extra programmers and artists to assist them and significantly speed up development, but of course unless the original developer(s) are rewarded adequately for THEIR efforts THEY won't have the means to be able to afford skilled temporary or permanent staff to help them. The best way to help OceanLab is to support them on a regular basis via Patreon or Subscriber as many of us already do. Just sayin'. (y)
This dev gets over £2900 a month, if they wanted help they would get it, Ocean likes to do everything alone it seems.
 

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This dev gets over £2900 a month, if they wanted help they would get it, Ocean likes to do everything alone it seems.

Yeeeeeah, you have no idea what you are talking about.


I have an income of around 4300$.

Then I have to exchange it from $ to €, which leaves me with 3500€. (Before taxes.) After taxes around 2000-2200€.
Then Germany has the highest electricity costs in the EU. (Or even world.) (I pay 280€ a month.)

Then deduct the cost of living, healthcare, rent, social life, and hardware upgrades (Acquired a 3090, 2080Ti, and a new PC last year.)

Pretty much leaves me with 200-600€ a month.


And now tell me where I can find an artist that produces the same level of quality in Daz3D and likes to work pretty much full-time for 200-450€.
 

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Yeeeeeah, you have no idea what you are talking about.


I have an income of around 4300$.

Then I have to exchange it from $ to €, which leaves me with 3500€. (Before taxes.) After taxes around 2000-2200€.
Then Germany has the highest electricity costs in the EU. (Or even world.) (I pay 280€ a month.)

Then deduct the cost of living, healthcare, rent, social life, and hardware upgrades (Acquired a 3090, 2080Ti, and a new PC last year.)

Pretty much leaves me with 200-600€ a month.


And now tell me where I can find an artist that produces the same level of quality in Daz3D and likes to work pretty much full-time for 200-450€.
if you moved to southern Europe you get better climate electricity costs are cheaper and you can keep your standard of living with just half the cost!

that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes even now that i am 40 i still enjoy it much more than... well working!

you also get some tax breaks! but since you do need the hardware some of your options are limited!
Anyway get SG`s finished and released on Steam and that should give you a proper boost in popularity that should translate into more patrons!

i can imagine that with the new German anti-porn laws (they call it child protection laws but we all know what they want...) it might be a bit tricky to persuade steam to release SG but should still be possible!
 

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that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes
Man I would've done that if covid stopped sticking around.

Quarantine has been a hard time, specially hard for someone stuck at home with a broken pc and nothing but his phone to entertain him.


On a more SG related note, I'm fine with a 2-3 months pace; it's quite understandable that the updates ate slow considering this dude is working on two VNs at the same time; so far I'm really interested in two VNs rn and at this point it's not even for wanking, I'm genuinely invested in the story of summer's gone and chasing sunset; I quite like these VNs a lot and they're fairly new.
 

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if you moved to southern Europe you get better climate electricity costs are cheaper and you can keep your standard of living with just half the cost!
I do indeed plan on leaving Germany in the future. But not until the financial aspect is secure.

that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes even now that i am 40 i still enjoy it much more than... well working!
No need to worry about that. Since I released Chapter 3, I did take developing much more seriously.

I started building good habits in order to improve every aspect surrounding my development and personal life.
But you cannot become an S-Tier productivity god over a few weeks.

I am improving/changing my whole developer identity by improving and creating one habit at a time.

And the games do not feel like work for me. It's a passion project. I wake up looking forward to work on them. (But a good work/life balance is needed and due to Covid not sustainable at the moment.)

I have a certain number of renders that I need to do daily.
No beer with friends before that is done.

i can imagine that with the new German anti-porn laws (they call it child protection laws but we all know what they want...) it might be a bit tricky to persuade steam to release SG but should still be possible!
I heard you can publish a game like that even if you are in Germany. It just won't be published/For sale in Germany itself.




On a more SG related note, I'm fine with a 2-3 months pace; it's quite understandable that the updates ate slow considering this dude is working on two VNs at the same time; so far I'm really interested in two VNs rn and at this point it's not even for wanking, I'm genuinely invested in the story of summer's gone and chasing sunset; I quite like these VNs a lot and they're fairly new.
This is also what I will achieve in the future. A release schedule of around 2-3 months for each half-chapter. (Both games simultaneously.)

And if everything goes well, I will be acquiring a new workstation in August.
The 3090 is nice but still takes up to 30min for each render.

And my calculations do include two games at the same time. (The amount of daily renders is pretty much the exact amount for a 2-3 month release.)
 

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if you moved to southern Europe you get better climate electricity costs are cheaper and you can keep your standard of living with just half the cost!

that being said i fear for your productivity because when its sunny outside and beer&coffee is cheap it just feels better to hang around with friends having a nice beer and checking out the babes even now that i am 40 i still enjoy it much more than... well working!

you also get some tax breaks! but since you do need the hardware some of your options are limited!
Anyway get SG`s finished and released on Steam and that should give you a proper boost in popularity that should translate into more patrons!

i can imagine that with the new German anti-porn laws (they call it child protection laws but we all know what they want...) it might be a bit tricky to persuade steam to release SG but should still be possible!
Great solution!!!... just move!... it doesn't matter what awaits you... just gtfo! Imho, these days you would be a fool to leave a country like germany. The benefits of living in germany are exceptionally positiv.
 
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