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More a case of supply, demand and quality as far as I can see. Top tier diamonds of the highest quality, suitable for jewellery, are rare and international businesses like De Beers hoard tonnes and tonnes of uncut diamonds, in vaults, deliberately, in order to avoid flooding the market and so keep the price for the gemstones artificially high. Industrial diamonds are a different matter of course.
(Shit! I'm rambling about diamonds again on the Summer's Gone thread. What a dick!)
You're dead right about publicising OceanLab's work. I extol it and promote it at every opportunity, for what it's worth, although I'm no influencer let alone influential hereabouts. (Or anywhere else for that matter!) I think it's still worth doing because I only stumbled upon Summer's Gone by accident after ranting, on another thread, about how pissed off and disappointed I was with the standard of VNs on this site and somebody casually recommended Summer's Gone to me probably to quieten me down. Sick to death with poorly done, crude, hideous and lurid fuckfests with piss poor characterisation, dialogue, drama, tension, plot and story, I had just about given up hope as far as adult VNs were concerned until I began SG, which changed everything for me as far as the adult genre was concerned, in the blink of an eye, forever. Rarely has any work of fiction gripped me so quickly and completely or transported me from the real world into an luminous imaginary landscape peopled with a cast of fascinating characters as different, diverse, puzzling, annoying, delightful, confusing, hateful, lovable, infuriating, beguiling — basically the whole kit and caboodle of complementary and contrary things on the broad spectrum of human all and everything — that constitute people in the workaday world.
Fantastic.
OceanLab VNs seem to be loved, universally, by pretty much everyone who has read and got into them and it is a matter of deep regret that only a relatively small number of aficionados, so far, currently support the developer financially via Patreon or Subscriber. Hopefully as the VNs reputation and audience continue to grow financial reward will expand in kind, commensurately, because if there's any developer anywhere who deserves pecuniary reward it's OceanLab.
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As soon as you pay for a subscription to someone on Patreon. Patreon takes it cut of the subscription not over the total amount
More like the government, If you are like Oceanslab you are selfemployed so you have to pay your health insurance your retirement fund normal taxes and that quickly adds up
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Is the the amount of support quoted on Patreon what you actually receive or is it before they take their fee? I'm not asking what their fees are. I can understand that might be sensitive. Only if that number is the gross contribution or your initial net.
It's also more convenient for some. If those games happened on steam I would buy them, i can't really afford a monthly patreon (Well, i could but not too long)
More visibility and more income, Steam could be a good solution
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Yeah I totally understand that. What I started doing is the following. Beside the two games that I support every month, I assign 5 additional dollars to a different game each month. I am in particular targeting games whose support is really undeserved what I think of the quality of the game, like Ataegina and Oath of Loyalty, that are doing very bad financially but are awesome games. After all, it is not like I don't know that I can I download the games here.
But, steam does have a very valuable thing. I don't need to worry about updates and space. As long as I bought them, they are in my collection and I install them as I see fit, which is very convenient. With patreon, first you need to download using mega or whatever and extract and everything and then save the files if you are afraid of losing them.
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I prefer steam for the same reasons. And in my case, I'll wait til the game is finished. That's usually how I work, if a truly liked a game ill just wait til its complete (Yup, I'm patient enough)
So buy it from steam and just wait patiently til its done is waaay more convenient for me. Of course, it must be difficult to have his game on steam, I don't really know. That being said, when I have a better financial situation I'll support few games, Summer's Gone is definitively one of them.
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The problem is Germany and Steam. They have blacklisted all games with sexual content for some stupid reason I do not know.
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its their new child protection laws! the same happened in the USA during the 90´s due to video game violence!
steam added up the math and decided it was just cheaper to drop the Germans then to risk the costs of the lawsuits! this way they send the message or if they break here they risk loosing the entire EU market!
i do not disagree with the need to regulate but the penalties that could be incured by not curating properly were too much of a risk!
But i have no great information about it so someone more knowledgeable should provide a proper reply! its not the rules its the penalties that are being threaten that are unreasonable in accordance with Valve lawyers!
could also happen that Valve lawyers being Americans assume USA penalties and not the more reasonable European penalties... but that would be too stupid...
I just updated myself on the matter. Its such a retard thing, I mean porn is really accessible without steam. Why does it matter ? If it's about a child whose access to those game I can get it. So why not put an age verification system ? Welp, if its such a drag to sell adults games with steam in Germany perhaps it is necessary to find an alternative.
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My main problem is something else.
You can decapitate people as a mindless monster but my goodness that guy is making love to the love of his life!
They only need to put strong filters. Make all 18+ content require a valid credit card even if free.
To be fair, I am the kind of guy that believes no censorship is good in art, that you only need a good warning system and filter by some clear criteria.
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Wow. Only 2+a monthly extra? I admire your restraint. I can't seem to trim my support down that far. Over time, I've found so many I want to help, so I'm spready pretty thinly.
Good point about Steam.
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Easy solution my friend, be poor as me!
It is not my restraint, it is my budget constraint.
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I understand. Being in the US, I used a portion of my "stimulus package" to support "stimulating" developers*. I really need to cut down, though. If I don't, I may not have enough to pay more essential bills.Easy solution my friend, be poor as me!
It is not my restraint, it is my budget constraint.
* Perhaps I should have said "stimulating my package..."
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I was saved by anti-blue-balls police. Such a nice touch that I almost tempted to play it anyway, but no
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Your lose then
I was saved by anti-blue-balls police. Such a nice touch that I almost tempted to play it anyway, but no
Na, these are the taxes I have to pay in Germany to the Gov.
It is pretty much the amount a creator actually receives. (What you see on the page. Patreon already took their cut. Except for the small fee you have to give PayPal/Payoneer.)
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That bitch!I was saved by anti-blue-balls police. Such a nice touch that I almost tempted to play it anyway, but no
Don't trust police officer Nami. She is actually the evil villain, keeping you away from an awesome game.