Grohal

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sasha is a very dignified, introspective character, summer on the other hand used to jump on the mc & kiss him, she was not type to use words like derriere.

Their personalities don't match, did summer hit her head & change her persona?

Also, Sasha's character design is really hot, it would be a shame to give her freckles, brown hair & to darken her skin tone. I'm not a fan of the Summer had surgery to change her looks theory.
Not that I believe Sasha is Summer, but the change of persona thing: it happened to the MC due to Summers disappearance, also I don't think Bella was always the troublemaker she is now, why couldn't it happen to another person?
 

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Not that I believe Sasha is Summer, but the change of persona thing: it happened to the MC due to Summers disappearance, also I don't think Bella was always the troublemaker she is now, why couldn't it happen to another person?
mc became dysfunctional, but his personality didn't change
 

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I don't think Ocean is the kind of dev to abandon stuff, I just don't think that he has a very good development strategy set up at the moment. Given that it takes a full year to release a chapter for SG, I can't really tell how long he's gonna take to release more WIAB content.
Well, i just did it. Hope this is not the bad idea and I don't cause him any trouble. Finger Crossed
 

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affinity and not blood! her mother sister married a Zane so him and all his siblings become uncles and aunts! that is how it works!
Also Ayua might have been fostered or adopted by the MC or by Leia Zane from Where it All Began, or be a child belonging to their partners before they hooked up. (Biological or adopted.) Ayua does not need to be an actual blood relative of Katie Zane for Katie to be her auntie.

Very interesting to see Katie's name mentioned explicitly in relation to Ayua as an auntie though. Katie was only a young girl in Where it all Began but could have reached middle age when the events in Summer's Gone take place. :unsure: It's impossible to tell at present; all we can do is guess. ;) Damn tantalising and interesting though. :)
 
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Okay. So. Sasha might not be Summer. I'd guess that she knows Summer enough to be told the story of the erasers. That's why she had a face of recognition.
On a side note. Why is it all Asian characters in these games know martial arts? That's stereotyping. Just once I'd like to see some Asian characters say the closest they came was watching Cobra Kai. LoL
 
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On a side note. Why is it all Asian characters in these games know martial arts? That's stereotyping. Just once I'd like to see some Asian characters say the closest they came was watching Cobra Kai. LoL
Well, saying all of them is a bit of a generalization. As an example, Sung Ji from AOA academy does not know martial arts. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't see many games with that kind of thing.
 

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Some bank on it - get a better martial arts experience from some asian.
The bruce lee story - bring the quality martial arts to westerners.
Okay. So. Sasha might not be Summer. I'd guess that she knows Summer enough to be told the story of the erasers. That's why she had a face of recognition.
On a side note. Why is it all Asian characters in these games know martial arts? That's stereotyping. Just once I'd like to see some Asian characters say the closest they came was watching Cobra Kai. LoL
vicky who was raised by asians knows martial arts though :ROFLMAO:
 

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I don't even think that was the intent Ocean had when he said that Sasha isn't Summer. Knowing him, he just wants people to treat Sasha as its own character and stop theorizing about stuff that is most likely not true so it doesn't ruin the personality that he's building for Sasha. I guess it would kinda suck trying to build a new character up and all people will think is that this character is someone else.

Hope you understand what I said, I'm not so good at explaining myself sometimes lol.
She may be related. She may know something.

All this for me is a red herring. Nothing more.

All the events that lead to Sasha being Summer are simply because the reader knows it is a mystery. And in some sense it is waiting for clues.

What do we know about our beautiful scar face goddess of war? Nothing. She having the same earring may be an old Nami's friend that has nothing to do with Summer. Or she simoly find it weird they share it.

But again, Summer=Sasha with so heavy "clues" would be a terrible choice.

Clues have to be subtle. Even to go the path "i make them obvious so you discard them" does not really work. If you thought about the possibility, when the mystery is resolved the surprise effect is very dimished. "Ohh yeah I thought it would be once" is not the same as "wow, I never would have imagined that"
when you ask her if she is, her response will be clear! "no, i am not! summer died to the monster in the cabin 6 years ago!"

but you are right she is a goddess of war and loss the threshold that separates boys from man into the eternal suffering that is the life of a man, the mythical prison described by Schopenhauer from which no man can ever hope to escape except trough the fire gates of self determination when one takes his own life!

Well, i just did it. Hope this is not the bad idea and I don't cause him any trouble. Finger Crossed
WIAB as not been abandoned that only takes time away from his work! have patient cause even tough not everything that comes to those who have patient is good everything that comes to those who act rashly is bad!

Okay. So. Sasha might not be Summer. I'd guess that she knows Summer enough to be told the story of the erasers. That's why she had a face of recognition.
On a side note. Why is it all Asian characters in these games know martial arts? That's stereotyping. Just once I'd like to see some Asian characters say the closest they came was watching Cobra Kai. LoL
its a cultural link to mitigate the homesickness that those parents feel and thus teaching it to their kids is a way of keeping them in touch with the home culture!

I saw this among st the Portuguese community in Germany and France, their attachment to some music styles and dances was surprising since most of the youngsters in the home country have shed those things a long time ago while its still alive and half of the kids in those communities continue to practice it while in the home country perhaps not even 0.5% of youngsters bellow the age of 25 know or practice it!

The Portuguese community in the Philippines who have been separated from the main Portuguese culture for 500 years still keep many traditions that are now sadly dead in Portugal!

so i assume martial arts for Asian emigrant communities must be like dancing for the Portuguese emigrant community or practicing capoeira for the Brazilians! its a statement of identity!
 
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Well, saying all of them is a bit of a generalization. As an example, Sung Ji from AOA academy does not know martial arts. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't see many games with that kind of thing.
I thought Sung Ji knew the martial arts. Well, that's one. But that might be the only one I've heard of that doesn't. And I've played a lot of these games.
 

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I thought Sung Ji knew the martial arts. Well, that's one. But that might be the only one I've heard of that doesn't. And I've played a lot of these games.
Mido from Depraved Awakening.
Ellen from City of Broken Dreamers.
Pricia from Treasure of Nadia.
Annie from Heavy Five.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many many more.
 

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Mido from Depraved Awakening.
Ellen from City of Broken Dreamers.
Pricia from Treasure of Nadia.
Annie from Heavy Five.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many many more.
Out of all those I've only played City of Broken Dreamers. And she hasn't said she can fmdo it yet. But it has never come up. That I can remember.
 

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She is a dancer .. doing wu shu over yoga is not a big difference .. Ki training is so light also.
Out of all those I've only played City of Broken Dreamers. And she hasn't said she can fmdo it yet. But it has never come up. That I can remember.
 

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Mido from Depraved Awakening.
Ellen from City of Broken Dreamers.
Pricia from Treasure of Nadia.
Annie from Heavy Five.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many many more.
Riona from Being a Dik.
 

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Mido from Depraved Awakening.
Ellen from City of Broken Dreamers.
Pricia from Treasure of Nadia.
Annie from Heavy Five.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many many more.
Ellen might not know any martial arts but she definitely knows how to throw a punch
 
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Just to stir up the pot, how can we be sure Ocean is not pulling a J.J. Abrams who emphatically assured everyone that "Cumberbatch's character is not Khan." ;)
 
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I finally got around to write my impression of this half chapter:
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It was a quality update, as usual from Ocean! I liked almost everything a lot: more time from the existing cast, some characters design being a little improved, and new plots and new characters being introduced to expand the horizon of possibilities. Only the ending left a little bitter taste in my mouth as it made one of my favorite characters do something I really disapproved of. Overall, that remains the game with the highest production values on this website. That being said, my doubts about the future of the game are not assuaged in the least, one half chapter in 6 months isn't anywhere near enough to have any sort of reasonable time to release the 30 chapters. That's one chapter a year, with 26.5 chapters remaining. Do the maths.
 

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Ocean struggled with some issues with this update. He wrote some time ago that now he will definitely accelerate. It is worth supporting it, so you will be up to date.
 
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