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Did you try the developer's other game Where it all began and if you did is it worth playing?
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So i continued with the game despite the amount of cornyness and holy shit this game really is just fucking cringe.
The dev also decides at some point to show the MC, since you dont see him rlly in the beginning and he really is supposed to be a fragile little EMO.
This dude is literally a self insert character of the developer portraying his power fantasy in the game and making him soooo desireable by all the chicks too.
Just straight up cornyness.
And you have scenes like chicks throwing themselves at you and this dumb self insert says ''Stop hugging me'' or ''don't hug me naked, put a shirt on'' all the time, like he is an anime character. Despite, that we, the player, want to fuck the chicks and welcome this.
Sorry but this game is extremly infuriating and corny.
I dropped this several times in the beginning in the past, always forgetting why i disliked this game, now i went through it to get the whole picture and i will make sure not to forget why i disliked this game.
The renders are good tho, chicks look good too.
What's wrong with the MC being "a fragile little EMO"?
What do you think the MC should be?
- May 4, 2020
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I like this VN a lot but I've always felt like this needs a proper proof reader. I know ocean is german and his first language probably isn't English, it might help to ease up the dialogue.
Because the dialogue really is stiff at a times, the protagonist sometimes talks like a robot in a daily slice-of-life situation which amplifies his edginess the readers are already feeling because of his appearance.
Don't get me wrong, this isn't a grammar problem nor a spelling problem, it's the way the sentences are structured, they're weird - no one really ever talks the way these characters do - and you can really feel that the writer isn't a native English speaker, that's perfectly fine.
But I guess no one really cares about dialogue since people expect a porn game huh? People want seggs not talky talks.
Because the dialogue really is stiff at a times, the protagonist sometimes talks like a robot in a daily slice-of-life situation which amplifies his edginess the readers are already feeling because of his appearance.
Don't get me wrong, this isn't a grammar problem nor a spelling problem, it's the way the sentences are structured, they're weird - no one really ever talks the way these characters do - and you can really feel that the writer isn't a native English speaker, that's perfectly fine.
But I guess no one really cares about dialogue since people expect a porn game huh? People want seggs not talky talks.
- Feb 6, 2020
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He keeps saying don't hug me and that shit because he is mentally crippled as he keeps saying and he couldn't love anyone else but summer and he slowly realizes that he is wrong once he starts falling for Bella and I actually like the mc not being a fucking horny teenager that wants to fuck everyone for a change one of the best protagonists in this genre in my opinion
- Feb 21, 2018
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Still think that was a waste of time rendering and watching!!! But prove me wrong!! Love this game don't fuck it up
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It's more like "people get the story anyway and don't bother about perfect grammar" would be my guess. But as a fellow german I can say even I noticed sometimes (like 2 or 4 times) a word is missing and the sentence is a bit off thus. I never fail to get the meaning though.
Ah and yes, I have seen WAY worse in other VNs so I am a bit bullet proof in that direction.
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I mean what other events are going to bring both girls and boys in your class together all at once besides class, sports, and dance event?
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Yes, I'm glad someone else also gets it. It's not that bad that you can't understand it, it's perfectly understandable, it's not incoherent and totally terrible like the majority of VNs but it could be more smoother and better if you know what I'm saying.But as a fellow german I can say even I noticed sometimes (like 2 or 4 times) a word is missing and the sentence is a bit off thus. I never fail to get the meaning though.
Ah and yes, I have seen WAY worse in other VNs so I am a bit bullet proof in that direction.
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I am pretty sure you meant "I, the player", not "we" as pretty many of us, the other players, would disagree with you strongly. On the very least I do and I would guess those that are facepalming from left to right probably too.
I never understand why people try to push their opinion as everybody else's every time the want to make a critique or make demands, claiming they speak for everybody.
Like if saying "we" would suddenly making their opinion fact.
I'm trying my hardest, as the player, to get to those Bella scenes and then the MC is still like ''Go away dont hug me'' Like shit of course i'll be mad.
If you feel anything but anger then sorry your Opinion does suck and i dont care how many Face palms i get from the defense force that inevitably will sweep in to protect their precious devs.
- May 9, 2019
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You seem to have a very big problem reading. You are not understanding the novel itself (which is fine). And you did not understand my comment (which is not).
Now, make an effort, work your brain that for some reason you have it and read my comment again. You will see that I said nothing about your opinion, you are entitled to it and personally I don't care shit about it.
I would just like that you don't assume everybody share it. There is a reason why "I" and "we" exist in English. Learn the difference.
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The most important thing in the end is I understand what is going on, but I get that it could be bothersome in a storyheavy VN like this to someone who speaks english as the language he was rised with or just is as good at english that it doensn't make a difference.
But I, as a average German, am fine with that level. Maybe because my and Oceanlabs "headenglisch" is the same as fellow countrymen. As I said - I only got 2 to 4 times that something is off with one particular sentence.
- Jul 10, 2017
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This is just tease stuff .. this is young adults in the usual soap opera heavy drama school setting.
What do they know of real work? Nothing. They steal money from those they despise.
They are all giddy when they meet a boy and talk to him (the gurls) or when a girl talks back
(the boys), all the while they all immagine themselves to be iresistable to opposite sex.
the action after a night of heavy drinking, the wonderful love scenes between Mc and sweetheart.
What do they know of real work? Nothing. They steal money from those they despise.
They are all giddy when they meet a boy and talk to him (the gurls) or when a girl talks back
(the boys), all the while they all immagine themselves to be iresistable to opposite sex.
Should you want real adult connections, go play devs aother game, where it all began has
the action after a night of heavy drinking, the wonderful love scenes between Mc and sweetheart.
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It's the first week after the MC being home for two months, because he avoided human interaction at all. So it would be WAY off if he just starts fucking around after years in a certain mental state...
He is getting there (if you guide him right) the basketball match proves this.
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After the cliffhanger it is still ambiguous to me which way MC is going to take.
On first glance with his passive way to not react at all to a crime that was done to him it feels as though this "relationship points" mentality will lead to him just taking that "punishment" without repercussions.
A mentality I believe that would bite him in the ass later on as it will definitly lead to more misunderstandings and will definitly not earn him "relationship points" with anyone.
However this "relationship points" sentence could also mean, that he fully expects that some girls will definitly be on his side in the fallout of that situation and he could therefore "earn" those points with them.
But the way I perceived MC up until now is he meant Nadja and Robin in that case.
He has a huge (psychological) leverage against them right now.
True they could just claim that it was someone else, that handcuffed him there or hope the MC doesn't say anything but the odds are against them right now.
Zara probably couldn't care less, as I don't think she really thought this through (and she knows MC the least).
Which leads me to the main point of my prediction:
The domination points have to have an impact somewhere if the lewd scenes will take years to come.
So they have to impact social interactions as well.
MC with submission points will probably just take it without doing anything about it but with domination points he will definitly take revenge.
If that prediction comes true, than I expect Nadja to be the first who gets hers.
She severely underestimates MC and probably expects MC to just let everything go but at game night there will definitly come a situation where he is alone with her or where he can embaress her in front of her friends. (which would start a circle of hatred which most likely isn't a goal of MC)
My guess would be that he would want to have leverage on her as she is well connected at school with several of his own friends - so he has to intimidate her in some way and not embaress her (a dish best served cold)
As she was featured quite heavely up until now with lots of fanservice I predict, that she will play a big role in the future and my hope would be that she either frees MC later herself or gets to feel the wrath of MC with dominant points.
Robin will either try to make amends with MC or he can make her life at school hell if he plays his cards right.
But my guess would be that he wants to have her as an ally or at the very least on his side when this photo comes out - regardless of his feelings to her ... and even there I fear that he already forgave her. (dissapointed smiley)
She will definitly not help MC herself as she is too ashamed of herself at that scene imo.
Zara also underestimates MC but she also showed to want MCs D quite badly.
She built up a rough exterior but it will definitly crumble - again if MC plays his cards right and utilises his dominant points.
And if everything goes downhill he will definitly have the squad on his side (Nami, Mila, Victoria, Maja, Nia and Bella on her path) and he could earn points with them if he handled the matter peacefully on the surface.
On first glance with his passive way to not react at all to a crime that was done to him it feels as though this "relationship points" mentality will lead to him just taking that "punishment" without repercussions.
A mentality I believe that would bite him in the ass later on as it will definitly lead to more misunderstandings and will definitly not earn him "relationship points" with anyone.
However this "relationship points" sentence could also mean, that he fully expects that some girls will definitly be on his side in the fallout of that situation and he could therefore "earn" those points with them.
But the way I perceived MC up until now is he meant Nadja and Robin in that case.
He has a huge (psychological) leverage against them right now.
True they could just claim that it was someone else, that handcuffed him there or hope the MC doesn't say anything but the odds are against them right now.
Zara probably couldn't care less, as I don't think she really thought this through (and she knows MC the least).
Which leads me to the main point of my prediction:
The domination points have to have an impact somewhere if the lewd scenes will take years to come.
So they have to impact social interactions as well.
MC with submission points will probably just take it without doing anything about it but with domination points he will definitly take revenge.
If that prediction comes true, than I expect Nadja to be the first who gets hers.
She severely underestimates MC and probably expects MC to just let everything go but at game night there will definitly come a situation where he is alone with her or where he can embaress her in front of her friends. (which would start a circle of hatred which most likely isn't a goal of MC)
My guess would be that he would want to have leverage on her as she is well connected at school with several of his own friends - so he has to intimidate her in some way and not embaress her (a dish best served cold)
As she was featured quite heavely up until now with lots of fanservice I predict, that she will play a big role in the future and my hope would be that she either frees MC later herself or gets to feel the wrath of MC with dominant points.
Robin will either try to make amends with MC or he can make her life at school hell if he plays his cards right.
But my guess would be that he wants to have her as an ally or at the very least on his side when this photo comes out - regardless of his feelings to her ... and even there I fear that he already forgave her. (dissapointed smiley)
She will definitly not help MC herself as she is too ashamed of herself at that scene imo.
Zara also underestimates MC but she also showed to want MCs D quite badly.
She built up a rough exterior but it will definitly crumble - again if MC plays his cards right and utilises his dominant points.
And if everything goes downhill he will definitly have the squad on his side (Nami, Mila, Victoria, Maja, Nia and Bella on her path) and he could earn points with them if he handled the matter peacefully on the surface.