voyeurkind

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* I'm not a fan of the constant blank text boxes.

* The officer obviously knows them, so why are they calling her officer?

* I will never get this. Why have an option button with only one option? 9disarm here)

* College...detention? That's a new one to me.

* College uniforms are new to me too. Maybe it's a European thing?

* What kind of college is this? One teacher for an entire freshman class? The football team attempting to recruit strangers? This is all high school shit that should be left in high school.

* The reason I'm bitching so much about this is that it ruins immersion. Students go to college because they want to. It's not compulsory. If the school has rules like this one, it needs to be reflected in the personalities of the students. Some do want this level of discipine and choose military schools, but genereally when one thinks of college, it's a place where the students get to decide what they want to do, which classes they'll attend, etc. Everything reflected here so far is high school stuff.

* How has the girl gotten upstairs? Her legs don't work and I don't see an elevator. Once again, this is an immersion thing.

So, despite my complaints, I think this is mostly well done. That being said, I don't know if I will continue following it. When I play games like these, I'm really not looking for anything deep and introspective. Still, I do think it's well-executed, my complaints aside.
 

Huldrafolk

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there are milf / aunts / mother in this game or only that insipid college girls without tits / ass?
 

Jimbog

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I really like this so far, although the MC is a little dark for my usual tastes, but I have great hope that the game will allow for a MC who is trying to get through what appears to be brokenness. The creator of this game can fool us all depending on the vision for the game and there are lots of paths that the writing can take. There is already a difference to most games in that it appears that the MC is going to end up with a couple of male friends who are going to be important to the story, I thought that Liam added a lot to the game "Acting Lessons". I can't wait for the first update, I really hope this game ends up being one of the games that gets finished.
 

ltpika

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* I'm not a fan of the constant blank text boxes.

* The officer obviously knows them, so why are they calling her officer?

* I will never get this. Why have an option button with only one option? 9disarm here)

* College...detention? That's a new one to me.

* College uniforms are new to me too. Maybe it's a European thing?

* What kind of college is this? One teacher for an entire freshman class? The football team attempting to recruit strangers? This is all high school shit that should be left in high school.

* The reason I'm bitching so much about this is that it ruins immersion. Students go to college because they want to. It's not compulsory. If the school has rules like this one, it needs to be reflected in the personalities of the students. Some do want this level of discipine and choose military schools, but genereally when one thinks of college, it's a place where the students get to decide what they want to do, which classes they'll attend, etc. Everything reflected here so far is high school stuff.

* How has the girl gotten upstairs? Her legs don't work and I don't see an elevator. Once again, this is an immersion thing.

So, despite my complaints, I think this is mostly well done. That being said, I don't know if I will continue following it. When I play games like these, I'm really not looking for anything deep and introspective. Still, I do think it's well-executed, my complaints aside.
It's really high school and they're like 15. It's code
 
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* I'm not a fan of the constant blank text boxes.

* The officer obviously knows them, so why are they calling her officer?

* I will never get this. Why have an option button with only one option? 9disarm here)

* College...detention? That's a new one to me.

* College uniforms are new to me too. Maybe it's a European thing?

* What kind of college is this? One teacher for an entire freshman class? The football team attempting to recruit strangers? This is all high school shit that should be left in high school.

* The reason I'm bitching so much about this is that it ruins immersion. Students go to college because they want to. It's not compulsory. If the school has rules like this one, it needs to be reflected in the personalities of the students. Some do want this level of discipine and choose military schools, but genereally when one thinks of college, it's a place where the students get to decide what they want to do, which classes they'll attend, etc. Everything reflected here so far is high school stuff.

* How has the girl gotten upstairs? Her legs don't work and I don't see an elevator. Once again, this is an immersion thing.

So, despite my complaints, I think this is mostly well done. That being said, I don't know if I will continue following it. When I play games like these, I'm really not looking for anything deep and introspective. Still, I do think it's well-executed, my complaints aside.
1. Same
2. They were High, calling her Officer was probably a result of that.
3. Yeah, also same
4. Yeah, College Detention is not a thing
5. Some Ivy League colleges require uniforms. But that school building? Definitely not a private school.
6. She was supposed to be the teacher for just that group, which is not a thing in college. Not to mention, where in that small ass building was that giant auditorium at?
7. No comments to this one
8. Her sister helped her.
 

Aldnoah Zero

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The Op was good, the character models too .. (sis uhmm)
The game apparently, the part of (Fap happy trigger) will be very slow ..
The story unfolds to discover where is the first love and childhood friend of Mc, Summer (or what's left of it ?!)
Cindy / FC (the girl who suffered the accident and almost ... died)beautiful and jealous sister..
Ohhh man, the creep smile .. she is very happy to see the mc again, ... right

Sis / Nami is very sympathetic and a very open relationship with the mc (unfortunately in the first ep, already have someone putting eyes on her)
The school should have more Npcs or shadows simulating characters, the school is too big and it looks strange ..
Evaluating the whole game in just one ep is a bit unfair, the way is to see the next ones ..
 

ILCjr

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I am drawn in. There are some issues, most already mentioned by others, but it seems to be well done and heading in a clear direction.
 

ThunderRob

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ya..the story is very intriguing...the dames are beautiful...heck..the teacher looks like a proper school marm..lol..its the nitpicky stuff thats a mess..the goofy AF school..its totally senseless...of course the female cops "uniform" but thats taste subjective..its a boner game in the end right?..so..porn-cops are fine..HAHAA..if the wheelchair bound cutie is a love interest..that is definitely a uniqueness this game has over others..i welcome it and hope it is handled well..i'll keep watching..i can overlook nitpicky stuff for a good story and compelling characters.
 

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I thought I would give this one a go, but I was not happy with what I ran into... At first I was a bit confused with the ever changing and dark pictures, and once I got past that and got all the way up until the protagonist left his home in the rain, I only had a few issues with text and dark visuals and some other stuff... But everything to do with the accident, to include dialogue, inner-monologue, choices, and the lack of immersion, just forced me to re-evaluate playing/reading this VN/Game... The theme was going from a somewhat dark and mysterious setting, to a very dark and possibly psychotic murderer type setting... I just had to call it quits, shortly after that scene... The immersion was already on the fence up until that point, and during the accident scene, I didn't want to be immersed in that type of very dark content... And after the police showed up, the immersion just began to tip off into the deep end, so I stopped playing/reading... I could tell the developers were trying to portray this dark melancholy, but thinking, and talking, and possibly even acting out the murder of innocent people, that was way far beyond melancholy... I went ahead and posted my review...

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I thought I would give this one a go, but I was not happy with what I ran into... At first I was a bit confused with the ever changing and dark pictures, and once I got past that and got all the way up until the protagonist left his home in the rain, I only had a few issues with text and dark visuals and some other stuff... But everything to do with the accident, to include dialogue, inner-monologue, choices, and the lack of immersion, just forced me to re-evaluate playing/reading this VN/Game... The theme was going from a somewhat dark and mysterious setting, to a very dark and possibly psychotic murderer type setting... I just had to call it quits, shortly after that scene... The immersion was already on the fence up until that point, and during the accident scene, I didn't want to be immersed in that type of very dark content... And after the police showed up, the immersion just began to tip off into the deep end, so I stopped playing/reading... I could tell the developers were trying to portray this dark melancholy, but thinking, and talking, and possibly even acting out the murder of innocent people, that was way far beyond melancholy... I went ahead and posted my review...

Zip
Perfect review. I've no idea how most looked past the psycho scene. At best, one could tag it as bad writing for a first release.

This dev doesn't care about our faps. Cares about his ego and wild story more. Unacceptable.
 

Robert Monotoli

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Having played this, I think this game has a real potential and I am looking forward to see the next chapter. I think characters are in general well fleshed out, dialogues is well written and the story is strong overall, rendering is well done. Excellent job so far, @Regium!

There are a few situations where I might've wanted a different dialogue option but obviously not going to happen considering the MC's broken state. For example, during the conversations between that wheelchair-bound girl (name is dynamic so I have to use that instead) and MC, there are three options to use about Bella and Nadia who were going to be seated next to her in the class which is, if my memory served right, "They are bitches", "You don't know them", and "At least they are hot". I would have preferred to have a nice way to warn her about these girls but, alas, such is the MC's broken state.

One strong plot device, I think, is the mystery of what happened to Summers which, if stretched over reasonably long enough, will keep us coming back to the game to find out what happened. In my view, the mystery can be a good plot device if well developed. Why do you think I played a few detective mystery games? ;)

Obviously this game is very dark but, hopefully, we will not have to be forced to murder anyone. I chose to not shoot the car lady at the scene because, let's just face it, I didn't come here for killing the people. I was pleased that I did not have to shoot that car lady and I hope we will continue to have that choice should that homicidal maniac starts to come out of that MC again.

I should also mention that this game came on my radar because I always regularly monitor the incest tag on the Latest Update. If we can expect a brother-sister relationship that becomes quite familiar;) then I will be pleased. I assume that since we have incest tag, it may well happen. It was also a nice surprise to discover that that pretty redhead in the screenshot is in fact the MC's sister. One thing I would hope for is for her to have some well-trimmed bush (hell, it can be a nice fire bush! ;)) but that is optional. She is cute anyway.

It does appears that there will be more than one female characters to have a possible relationship with. There is clearly something going on with that wheelchair-bound girl and since there is incest tag, this also implies the relationship with Nami (most likely) and possibly the adoptive mom but that isn't clear. So that suggests at least two possible relationships.

Since there is no harem tag, this suggests that you can only have either one relationship or a few relationships but not all of them. The main question is, then, which one it will be. I assume "harem" refers to having relationships with all female characters that you can start relationship with, while having relationships with a few girls instead of all girls don't count as a "harem". If anyone can correct me on definition of that tag, feel free. The forum administration may well consider a new tag called "semi-harem" to differentiate between that and "harem" but it may not be necessary.

One interesting observation I have in the game is pertaining to that flashback to Summers and MC in the class. It look like MC's sister Nami was sitting behind them and she seemed... jealous? Did anyone else noticed that as well?
 

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I thought I would give this one a go, but I was not happy with what I ran into... At first I was a bit confused with the ever changing and dark pictures, and once I got past that and got all the way up until the protagonist left his home in the rain, I only had a few issues with text and dark visuals and some other stuff... But everything to do with the accident, to include dialogue, inner-monologue, choices, and the lack of immersion, just forced me to re-evaluate playing/reading this VN/Game... The theme was going from a somewhat dark and mysterious setting, to a very dark and possibly psychotic murderer type setting... I just had to call it quits, shortly after that scene... The immersion was already on the fence up until that point, and during the accident scene, I didn't want to be immersed in that type of very dark content... And after the police showed up, the immersion just began to tip off into the deep end, so I stopped playing/reading... I could tell the developers were trying to portray this dark melancholy, but thinking, and talking, and possibly even acting out the murder of innocent people, that was way far beyond melancholy... I went ahead and posted my review...

Zip
You have an option to not murder that car lady at the accident after you disarmed her. At this stage, there is nothing to suggest that you will be forced to have the MC commit a murder. Of course, that doesn't mean it is guaranteed that it will not happen in later chapters. Hopefully, we will not have to do that but, alas, the dev have a right to decide how the game will go. It is his game after all.

The main thing is that I think seeing that option to shoot her tells you how much struggling the MC is internally. That you have an option to simply disarm the lady and not shoot her suggested the great efforts he had to make in self-controling himself. Which means he may or may not be able to exercise that next time he might feel... tempted to do that again. Right now, we simply don't know if he will actually kill someone or not. I think it is too early to call it.

The mystery about what happened to Summers is simply too interesting to pass up, though, for me personally. I like mysteries. ;P But I might not continue the game if there comes the point where I cannot avoid having the MC become a cold murderer. At least, that is, unless it was done in self-defense. I would rather have MC somehow rehabilitated himself than to fall that low. You can't help but feel a bit of sympathy for the MC.

Since I had the MC agreed to talk to that classmate named Mila about his struggles, I think there is at least one possible path towards rehabilitation but I suspect it will take more than one people. I also have a feeling that his sister Nami may play a role in his rehabilitation, even if she haven't been able to help him successfully over the past 3 years (at least I think that is when that mystery with Summers happened?).
 
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I thought I would give this one a go, but I was not happy with what I ran into... At first I was a bit confused with the ever changing and dark pictures, and once I got past that and got all the way up until the protagonist left his home in the rain, I only had a few issues with text and dark visuals and some other stuff... But everything to do with the accident, to include dialogue, inner-monologue, choices, and the lack of immersion, just forced me to re-evaluate playing/reading this VN/Game... The theme was going from a somewhat dark and mysterious setting, to a very dark and possibly psychotic murderer type setting... I just had to call it quits, shortly after that scene... The immersion was already on the fence up until that point, and during the accident scene, I didn't want to be immersed in that type of very dark content... And after the police showed up, the immersion just began to tip off into the deep end, so I stopped playing/reading... I could tell the developers were trying to portray this dark melancholy, but thinking, and talking, and possibly even acting out the murder of innocent people, that was way far beyond melancholy... I went ahead and posted my review...

Zip
I understand your point. Here is what I get. The MC may have some neurological disorder that causes these impulses, which maybe a part of the story line.
 

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You have an option to not murder that car lady at the accident after you disarmed her. At this stage, there is nothing to suggest that you will be forced to have the MC commit a murder. Of course, that doesn't mean it is guaranteed that it will not happen in later chapters. Hopefully, we will not have to do that but, alas, the dev have a right to decide how the game will go. It is his game after all.

The main thing is that I think seeing that option to shoot her tells you how much struggling the MC is internally. That you have an option to simply disarm the lady and not shoot her suggested the great efforts he had to make in self-controling himself. Which means he may or may not be able to exercise that next time he might feel... tempted to do that again. Right now, we simply don't know if he will actually kill someone or not. I think it is too early to call it.

The mystery about what happened to Summers is simply too interesting to pass up, though, for me personally. I like mysteries. ;P But I might not continue the game if there comes the point where I cannot avoid having the MC become a cold murderer. At least, that is, unless it was done in self-defense. I would rather have MC somehow rehabilitated himself than to fall that low. You can't help but feel a bit of sympathy for the MC.

Since I had the MC agreed to talk to that classmate named Mila about his struggles, I think there is at least one possible path towards rehabilitation but I suspect it will take more than one people. I also have a feeling that his sister Nami may play a role in his rehabilitation, even if she haven't been able to help him successfully over the past 3 years (at least I think that is when that mystery with Summers happened?).
By even having the choice there, regardless if the player can select to choose it or not... Then coupled with him actually talking aloud about slitting the accident victims throat... Then coupled again with the choice to be apathetic to this damaged and possibly dying woman in front of him... Come on... That is very dark content, regardless of the player being able to select it or not... There is internal struggle with some possible life altering event, and then there is homicidal tendencies... Talking about slitting an innocent woman's throat, who is down and maybe dying, is not internal struggle, it's a open desire to end someones life without any conscience or feeling of empathy... Then follow it up with an option to shoot another innocent person, just because he's feeling down, again way over the top and not at all an Internal Struggle... If you want to call murderous impulse an internal struggle, then what you have is a psychopath that lacks empathy or remorse... Not someone grieving over some past tragedy... Drastic differences between the two... And it's not the only qualm I had, it's just the biggest one...

The only rehabilitation a psychopath, with murderous tendencies, has, is either intense psycho therapy (which may never work), life in a mental hospital (under close observation), or the firing squad...

I perfectly understand that it's your baby to do with as you please... You can make it as dark as your conscience allows, but that doesn't invalidate how dark your VN/Game is, or what I commented on with regards to that darkness... I do wish you the best of luck...

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By even having the choice there, regardless if the player can select to choose it or not... Then coupled with him actually talking aloud about slitting the accident victims throat... Then coupled again with the choice to be apathetic to this damaged and possibly dying woman in front of him... Come on... That is very dark content, regardless of the player being able to select it or not... There is internal struggle with some possible life altering event, and then there is homicidal tendencies... Talking about slitting an innocent woman's throat, who is down and maybe dying, is not internal struggle, it's a open desire to end someones life without any conscience or feeling of empathy... Then follow it up with an option to shoot another innocent person, just because he's feeling down, again way over the top and not at all an Internal Struggle... If you want to call murderous impulse an internal struggle, then what you have is a psychopath that lacks empathy or remorse... Not someone grieving over some past tragedy... Drastic differences between the two... And it's not the only qualm I had, it's just the biggest one...

The only rehabilitation a psychopath, with murderous tendencies, has, is either intense psycho therapy (which may never work), life in a mental hospital (under close observation), or the firing squad...

I perfectly understand that it's your baby to do with as you please... You can make it as dark as your conscience allows, but that doesn't invalidate how dark your VN/Game is, or what I commented on with regards to that darkness... I do wish you the best of luck...

Zip
To be honest, I don't think the MC would go that far anyway, at least not in this stage. He didn't actually slit her throat, did he? *shrugs* I feel like he wasn't prepared to go that far, given what happened, even though he did say he could slit her throat. Also, apparently based on the reading of the comments here, it seemed that the car lady survived even if you shot her. My guess? He probably shot her in the shoulder or something but I don't know since I didn't choose that option. Nevertheless, I would not have chosen that option and I would hope I would not have to be forced to kill someone in the game for reasons other than self-defense or I would be quick to abandon this game.

For now, though, it look like he hasn't actually have a will to actually kill someone, even though he sure seem to be that close. So far, he have that minimum self-control but I would agree that he is pretty that close crossing the line from which he can never come back if he had.

Since I read somewhere else that the developer is apparently planning for this game to be non-linear, this suggests that the game may have several endings, with one bad and another good. That homicidal impulse may suggest what a bad ending may look like if the MC does not bother to sufficiently self-control himself with respect to that impulse and accepted the help from others in confronting his own psychological issues.

EDIT: Actually, now I think about that, there is no "Multiple Endings" tag currently applied to this thread. It is now unclear if it will actually have multiple endings or not. We will have to wait and see what Regium will say about that.
 

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To be honest, I don't think the MC would go that far anyway, at least not in this stage. He didn't actually slit her throat, did he? *shrugs* I feel like he wasn't prepared to go that far, given what happened. Also, apparently based on the reading of the comments here, it seemed that the car lady survived even if you shot her. My guess? He probably shot her in the shoulder or something but I don't know since I didn't choose that option. Nevertheless, I would not have chosen that option and I would hope I would not have to be forced to kill someone in the game for reasons other than self-defense or I would be quick to abandon this game.

For now, though, it look like he hasn't actually have a will to actually kill someone, even though he sure seem to be that close. So far, he have that minimum self-control but I would agree that he is pretty that close crossing the line from which he can never come back if he had.

Since I read somewhere else that the developer is supposedly planning for this game to be non-linear, this suggests that the game may have several endings, with one bad and another good. That homicidal impulse may suggest what a bad ending may look like if the MC does not bother to sufficiently self-control himself with respect to that impulse and accepted the help from others in confronting his own psychological issues.
If you select shoot her, he actually tries to kill her, but the gun had blanks, which he did not know prior to pulling the trigger... That is basically attempted murder... I think you are missing my point...

This VN/Game offers and shows story content that is very dark, not just melancholy dark, but murder like darkness... And that was all that I was saying... And I do not like VN/Games that offer up that type of darkness, optional or not... The fact it exists at all in the VN/Game, makes the actual intensions of the author irrelevant... It is what it is... And both myself, and I'm sure plenty of others would agree it's not something they want to feel immersed in... Why would I want to play a character that wants to murder someone, at all... I don't... No matter if he actually planned to go through with it or not... He talked about murder (no choice there) and then is offered a chance to murder... Plain and simple... This will be my last response regarding this, as a continued discussion of this specific topic would just lead to derailing the thread... Again, I wish the developers the best of luck...

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By even having the choice there, regardless if the player can select to choose it or not... Then coupled with him actually talking aloud about slitting the accident victims throat... Then coupled again with the choice to be apathetic to this damaged and possibly dying woman in front of him... Come on... That is very dark content, regardless of the player being able to select it or not... There is internal struggle with some possible life altering event, and then there is homicidal tendencies... Talking about slitting an innocent woman's throat, who is down and maybe dying, is not internal struggle, it's a open desire to end someones life without any conscience or feeling of empathy... Then follow it up with an option to shoot another innocent person, just because he's feeling down, again way over the top and not at all an Internal Struggle... If you want to call murderous impulse an internal struggle, then what you have is a psychopath that lacks empathy or remorse... Not someone grieving over some past tragedy... Drastic differences between the two... And it's not the only qualm I had, it's just the biggest one...

The only rehabilitation a psychopath, with murderous tendencies, has, is either intense psycho therapy (which may never work), life in a mental hospital (under close observation), or the firing squad...

I perfectly understand that it's your baby to do with as you please... You can make it as dark as your conscience allows, but that doesn't invalidate how dark your VN/Game is, or what I commented on with regards to that darkness... I do wish you the best of luck...

Zip
I definitely agree that this game starts out with a dark mindset, but I really see it more of an inquisitive apathy than psychotic. The scene with the girl that got hit, he's pointing to her wrist when talking about ending it for her, and alludes to preventing her from suffering when she wakes up. It just seems to me that he's more in shock about seeing possible death (again given the hinted at story of the namesake) and distracting himself by focusing on other things. The whole "shoot the driver" option was definitely a bit farfetched. After that point though, the story actually does get much better, and I'm truly interested in seeing where this one goes.
 
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