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"" as this game is centered around the MC dealing with his issues, ""
The MC along with almost every main character has issues they have to overcome. It's kind of a central theme here... overcoming your demons if you will. MC has his demons because... well... Summer's Gone. Bella has hers because she'd witnessed something terrible involving her sister, Nami faces neglect and(for some players) unrequited love, so on and so forth. Please correct me if I'm wrong
 
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The MC along with almost every main character has issues they have to overcome. It's kind of a central theme here... overcoming your demons if you will. MC has his demons because... well... Summer's Gone. Bella has hers because she'd witnessed something terrible involving her sister, Nami faces neglect and for some, unrequited love, so on and so forth. Please correct me if I'm wrong
read your post and think what all of this are the mc´s issues ..
i quote again from your post above and my answer :
you : "" as this game is centered around the MC dealing with his issues, ""

me : "" thats the point - it isn´t ""

the mc deal with everyone stuff but not his (so far) - and his issue is missing summer

but enough about this - we can go back and forth with this
and if you now point to the therapist - this lady has (imo) way other motives about and with the mc
 

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read your post and think what all of this are the mc´s issues ..
i quote again from your post above and my answer :
you : "" as this game is centered around the MC dealing with his issues, ""

me : "" thats the point - it isn´t ""

the mc deal with everyone stuff but not his (so far) - and his issue is missing summer

but enough about this - we can go back and forth with this
and if you now point to the therapist - this lady has (imo) way other motives about and with the mc
I... can't really tell if you're serious or not. The MC has taken small steps to deal with his issues since the beginning of this story. Ocean cannot just have the MC fix his issues, because then that eliminates the current driving force behind the main plot. Furthermore, it's not something that can be done in one update. We're talking about overcoming trauma that set off a butterfly effect causing years worth of issues for the Main Character. A complex issue that requires an even more complicated method of fixing. Maybe it's my understanding of English... but you're not making that much sense. None of your posts were making that much sense honestly. Again, it may be my understanding of English that's limiting me, but unless you'd(generally speaking) blatantly ignored major parts of the AVN, it's hard to understand where you're coming from. Amber hasn't really been shown enough to suggest she'd have any ulterior motives outside of nurturing Bella and MC's relationship. So I'm not sure where you were going with that either...
 
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I... can't really tell if you're serious or not. The MC has taken small steps to deal with his issues since the beginning of this story.

. Amber hasn't really been shown enough to suggest she'd have any ulterior motives outside of nurturing Bella and MC's relationship. So I'm not sure where you were going with that either...
yeah - and after this it is all about the girls issues

bingo - not really professionell -not dealing with the issue the mc has , but bella´s ,using the mc for (like marla does too)

and ik that it not makes sense to some people ,who want the "happy" and "helping" mc
as you maybe had read - i talked about the dark path and that my mc couldnt care less about the
issues of bella , mila , vic and who not all :ROFLMAO:

but really - enough for (for now) about this - this leads to nothing
 
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Since I've redone a full playthrough a few days ago, here are some theories recently came up with. Not sure if anybody pointed out something similar before...

1) MC's captivity happens on a Friday. Where Nadia tells Sonya that, after the gym, they would go out to play the tabletop game. Since the MC is supposed to take part in it, somebody has to come back and free him, right? My best guess would be Nadia, coming back and saying something like "It was Zara's idea", or something of the sort. Maybe even Robin, who has been acting nicely towards the MC and just wanted to free herself from owing anything to Nadia..?

Anyways, Zara needs to be fucked in the ass. Moving on...

2) Nia asks Nami about the MC and Summer towards the end of the bathroom scene, after working out at the gym (which exactly, we don't know). After the game, having made a deal with her, she invites the MC to come to her place on Sunday. She may be oblivious about MC's boner issues (or not, maybe Nami told her?), but she sure thinks that he's packing quite the cannon. Could she have asked Nami about Summer's perfume or something? Like an infallible plan to make him get a hard on?

All I know is that I can't wait for the next update, that's for sure...
 
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Ahx

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brother remember what I said

if the conversation is turning into an argument walk away

and don't let it spread to the entire forum

start a conversation with someone else

think of it as a forest fire just agree to disagree and end it
WHAAAT ?...

Brother I was done and that was it, I ended it. I wouldn't let ignorance spread all around the forum brother. You know me, not that well it seems. I just couldn't let him stick to his image of Bella. Anyway the dispute was looking pointless and those ill-founded critiques made my eye sore, so I moved on...AGES AGO.
 
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WHAAAT ?...

Brother I was done and that was it, I ended it. I wouldn't let ignorance spread all around the forum brother. You know me, not that well it seems. I just couldn't let him stick to his image of Bella. Anyway the dispute was looking pointless and those ill-founded critiques made my eye sore, so I moved on...AGES AGO.
I know that brother and I know that you are right

the guy was arguing with a lot of people and I wanted to stop it from spreading



I just told you to stop talking to him so it wil break the chain

trust me I know you didn't do anything

in fact I was going to leave.the Comment for the last person that talked to him but then you showed up
;)
 

Ahx

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I know that brother and I know that you are right

the guy was arguing with a lot of people and I wanted to stop it from spreading



I just told you to stop talking to him so it wil break the chain

trust me I know you didn't do anything

in fact I was going to leave.the Comment for the last person that talked to him but then you showed up
;)
Yeah...heh...I'm a pain in the ass, aren't I ?

Then you quote this and replay 'Not at all brother'...but we all know that's not true.
 

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no kink shaming! i mean my MC would never do something like that but if i was writting yes that option would be available for whoever wanted it!

but if i was ever to write a VN i would have a set scene and a breaking down button for every chapter and whenever the story got too intense you clicked that button and depending on the personality your MC developed until then he would break down crying like a little bitch or start a fight and end up in Jail until the next chapter!

or even... the MC would go on the look out for a suicide by cop scenario...

any game i would ever write would probably be far more into violence then sex but there would be gay stuff NTR and even an Incel Path all optional, just because most of that shit is not my thing it does not mean it should not exist and it should be at the players discretion on what they want or not! probably the only thing it would not have unless the story made sense like that would be incest, but even if the story made sense like that it would be a tricky path to get onto (at least consensualy...)

yes i understand some kiddies who whine also play this games but hey its an adult game so behave like an adult!

but i can not write a vn i have no discipline to ground a story properly scenes and complex scenarios sure, but an entire avn ... probably too complex to get it right, not to mention star wars episode 1 the phantom menace... i would loose myself in the world building and politics!

not to mention i am good with languages leadership psychology numbers sociology geography history and a few other disciplines... what i am not good at? drawing rendering computers so a vn by me considering the amount of out sourcing needed would never be economically viable... read above i am good with numbers!
Hmm i figured you would end up making a VN where the MC and his sentient weed smoking dildo goes around preaching to people about the benefits of loving him but when they disagree about that the MC and the dildo would chase them around town all the while screaming " look at my glorious schlong , how can you not love this ! " .......something along those lines
 
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Hmm i figured you would end up making a VN where the MC and his sentient weed smoking dildo goes around preaching to people about the benefits of loving him but when they disagree about that the MC and the dildo would chase them around town all the while screaming " look at my glorious schlong , how can you not love this ! " .......something along those lines
dude stop projecting! not sure i gave out that image but thats totally not me with sentient non living entities or even magic!

i mean i enjoy a good game with magic but i would never write something like that because its not my thing deep emotional shit like SG or something historical like would be my beach on creation, even a episodically vn based mainly in comedy like a chad and tyrone bromance comedy stuff with some deep emotional cuts in the middle to set the tone but magic weed smoking sentient or even toys? dude you got me all wrong but hey you project what you can not accept in yourself all you want!

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for instance a game set in the 30 years before Alexios komennos of the byzantine empire took over would be kind of my thing! having to witness the waste of money in mercenaries that back stab the empire all the time blame being distributed like its candy during Christmas/kings day in Spain!

the constant threat of being blamed because a general fucked up, trying to balance out all the powerful families always in danger of getting a knife to the back, facing viking raiders or Norman invaders constant Slavic rebellions dealing with seljuk raiders, trying to set up armies wasting time fortune and patient to have that army be removed from you and given to an incompetent idiot to waste by not setting up camps or falling into ambushes that even a 5 year old can see from 3 months and 500 miles away!

going into battle so that one of the generals you courted and bribed just do his thing turn tail and run while you you get fucked in the ass against the Bulgarians and pechnegs!

going into battle with 3 times the enemies numbers only to find yourself outnumbered 2 to 1 because a son of a duchal family did not had the stomach to enter combat!

dude history and real life is weirder and crazier than fiction!
 
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well speaking for myself

I love you Just the Way You Are

by the way I wanted to ask you something who does Isabella look like

and be honest


https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-3-5-full-oceanlab.29981/post-6627786

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It's like you remember every single post you've posted...I mean every single 1,980 of them. o_O

I know that you recently had like a dozen of them or whatever you and your girl had cooked up in that weird bed with literal wings, anyway, congratulations !...and you can even point out which one is Isabella, talk about sharp fathering skills...I'm impressed.

Okay...now let's see about this baby daughter of yours, Isabella...damn she's growing like a weed !...I can just tell from what I'm seeing, beautiful and the sweetest thing there is...jumping around the room like a little kitty....let me go hold that sweet little thing...by the way, she looks exactly like... ... ...

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* TALK ABOUT ABOMINATION !!!...THAT WAS TRAUMATIC !!! ...*
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yeah - and after this it is all about the girls issues

bingo - not really professionell -not dealing with the issue the mc has , but bella´s ,using the mc for (like marla does too)

and ik that it not makes sense to some people ,who want the "happy" and "helping" mc
as you maybe had read - i talked about the dark path and that my mc couldnt care less about the
issues of bella , mila , vic and who not all :ROFLMAO:

but really - enough for (for now) about this - this leads to nothing
You can't be that ignorant !...or I just think that you are utterly disappointed about MC not being a complete sociopath or whatever character traits you expected him to have ( I read your previous posts mate ).

If it makes you feel any better, I'd say, MC is still not all in the light like you all described him to be, he is still a darker person if you ask me. You can't just stop being yourself or whatever you've become because of, let's say, a certain traumatic experience, just like that. Take a look at this...
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His head is still up the dark clouds...just because all of his interactions not include a gun doesn't necessarily make him a not darker person.

Amber is mostly professional and genuinely guides MC to the end of the tunnel. Like the Lady said, we don't have much enough content of her to decide whether she has ulterior motives towards MC or not. You can replay the therapy sessions one more time and decide again for yourself mate.
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See, she genuinely wants MC to grow out of his prevailing condition regardless of her "ulterior motives", if she has one of course but I'm sure there is none.
 

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You can't be that ignorant !...or I just think that you are utterly disappointed about MC not being a complete sociopath or whatever character traits you expected him to have ( I read your previous posts mate ).

If it makes you feel any better, I'd say, MC is still not all in the light like you all described him to be, he is still a darker person if you ask me. You can't just stop being yourself or whatever you've become because of, let's say, a certain traumatic experience, just like that. Take a look at this...
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His head is still up the dark clouds...just because all of his interactions not include a gun doesn't necessarily make him a not darker person.

Amber is mostly professional and genuinely guides MC to the end of the tunnel. Like the Lady said, we don't have much enough content of her to decide whether she has ulterior motives towards MC or not. You can replay the therapy sessions one more time and decide again for yourself mate.
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See, she genuinely wants MC to grow out of his prevailing condition regardless of her "ulterior motives", if she has one of course but I'm sure there is none.
nah ... nope ... i dont trust her

they crawling into your head , making a mess and leave you in fetal position ... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

im not ignorant ...
i just would love to play a dark path , without guns - no need for this ;)
(mc showed that his evil mind maybe enough )

and you cant deny that he is used by marla and amber to "help" bella
a option to reject just going the amber is missing (dark path)
(yes - MY mc would do that)

helping bella with her neighbours - no option to refuse ,
mc is capable to deal with this rich guy alone (helping mila - again why?), instead he lets her drag him to some
overpriced clothing store , a gay or w/e "hairstylist" (looks like some anime char after this lmao)

vic - mc has the option to refuse to help her ("babysit") , in the end he´s going all whiny
and confess to her (choice not count ) - why ? she´s not his problem

thats what im talking about if i say "dark path"
but im tired to explain my thought about this :)
lets see how this rolls after next update , with the cabin visit etc
 
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thats not a dark path!

in my dark path before ocean shited all over my dreams i was gonna corrupt Bella become a porn producer and get Nami Nya and Mila into porn namely Nami spitroast get kai and his idiotic with a tintin hairstyle friend burned in a shack in the midle of nowhere Jeff and his other black friend to spitroast the reporter by rape and them frame Troy/trey for it and probably blackmail Amber into a corruption path by threatning to release all the debasing photos and videos i made of her daughter (probably where Bella would comit suicide...)

i was also going to turn Robin into another one of my sex slaves... and ofc Love Sasha marry her and make her my baby moma... either she wanted it or not!

i had you on ignore but considering your one of the few people who agrees with me on the need for a nihilistic son of a bitch path 0 fucks given anti-hero character!
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Night with Nami :

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At gym :

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Date with Bella :

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At school :

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Maybe not the Main Character you wanted but clearly the one you needed. :illuminati:
 

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You can't be that ignorant !...or I just think that you are utterly disappointed about MC not being a complete sociopath or whatever character traits you expected him to have ( I read your previous posts mate ).

If it makes you feel any better, I'd say, MC is still not all in the light like you all described him to be, he is still a darker person if you ask me. You can't just stop being yourself or whatever you've become because of, let's say, a certain traumatic experience, just like that. Take a look at this...
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His head is still up the dark clouds...just because all of his interactions not include a gun doesn't necessarily make him a not darker person.

Amber is mostly professional and genuinely guides MC to the end of the tunnel. Like the Lady said, we don't have much enough content of her to decide whether she has ulterior motives towards MC or not. You can replay the therapy sessions one more time and decide again for yourself mate.
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See, she genuinely wants MC to grow out of his prevailing condition regardless of her "ulterior motives", if she has one of course but I'm sure there is none.
Ya I don't think there are ulterior motives either, at least not that I've been able to detect so far. I think the Dev will eventually give us choices during the therapy sessions to decide what to say / how to behave so as to not only have the immediate impact with Amber at that point in time, but with the knowledge that Amber will jot things down in her logs that the player will know are going to make it to Bella. I'm guessing they'll have a bigger impact if the player is trying to romance both women.
 
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