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Sorry, but read your last 10 posts. Full of sarcasm and negativ implications. I don't want to discuss this any further. Self awareness is important in written arguments. You can not simply "talk" your way out of it.
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While long, it's still faster than this. And with more content offered. And with a good game already completed (in a sensible amount of time) under their belt. That wasn't plagued by delays and reworks. The result? A good starting Patreon base for your next project that allows you to jumpstart the process. That's how it works.
To be fair, it might as well be quantum mechanics for some, I even see the same mistake often been done by big companies. Release a new 8-episode show that gets hype for its quality. Then proceed to kill any momentum with huge 2 year shooting cycles because the service isn't willing to invest in shortening them, while maintaining quality. And the show eventually gets cancelled 2-3 seasons in, with the small dedicated fanbase that has remained bitching about the fact.
Balancing creativity with moneymaking is admitedly not easy. You have to know when to cut corners and when to risk pouring some more money to hopefully get more back.
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No, I don't want my students to suffer in the same way I do. The waiting is too much for their soft heart.Teach your kids about Summer's Gone. You can have great discussions and talk about the Ch.4 ending. It will be cathartic
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Actually, in that case, I am the one who's like MC. That's why I love this game so much. But unlike MC, all the shit that I've been through, I can still have a boner.
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He does not spend too much time into the reworking. He only does polish the game a little further and fix some bugs.
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You have to look at it from another angle. It will help prepare them for when they go out in the world and meet their first Bella.
Actually, scratch that. Nothing could prepare for that experience.
Thankfully, I met my Bella's later in life when I could handle that acerbic tongue. Imagine your first gf was Bella...oh shit.
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I'm gonna be selfish about it, I'm 22 and I haven't met anyone like Bella in my life, I've met a lot of girls in college but they were so boring and I was pretty cold. So, I'd rather to be the first in the line instead of my studens. Me first, then my students. :d
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BADIK = 14.063 patreons. The dev STILL works alone on ONE game.
OCEAN works alone on TWO games with 989 SG patreons and 384 WIAB patreons.
You need to educate yourself on Oceanlab first and foremost. To say it with few words... He never intended to develop two games at the same time. Why? How?... read up on it yourself but do not pretend to be able to conclude anything related to these topics.
Btw. Do you actually think steam had nothing to do with patreon growth rate in case of BADIK? Or maintaining patreon numbers?
With the amount of support Ocean is getting he is doing one hell of job!
Read the first part of my answer above. And I can't speak about Dr PinkCake expanse of vision for his universe but both of Oceans games are vital to his vision.
The main point was the correlation between development time and amount of patreon support. And I stay to my remark that DPC should be able to deliver more content. These numbers don't include steam sales on top of that and the fact he is still working alone on his project.
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Yes and I just explained you why in my previous reply.
And working on only one game, especially if you are working alone is a plus not a minus. It means you know how to prioritize, have a clear plan start to finish and aren't overextending. Make it good, finish it, build a fanbase and goodwill and then move on to the next. Profit.
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To be honest the visuals of dnd was great on par with or greater than COBD but I couldn't get the feeling of SG in that.and it felt soo long(maybe I couldn't stand it) and boring( I've never watched starwars for same reason).I must appreciate the effort and quality of it but to think that how much of other content we could've got if it's wasn't for dnd it's not worth it otherwise it's a good update and hopefully I expect some content of sasha and ayua in next update.
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ok. I might be crazy, I know Ocean has said the two games are connected. I just went back to play Where it all began and see Leia wearing the same earrings Nami and Sasha wear. Then Nami mentioned how Vanessa said they seem "familiar". Wonder how they are connected.
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People always like to bring BAD into this. BAD period between every update you can already tell. and he always deliver a complete chapter that is at least 2hours long for 1 gameplay and you usually want to make more than 1 gameplay for that game. Because in that game, the paths you choose actually matters. I don't think no one can compare any other developer to DPC.
I believe this summer's gone update is equivalent to only half of a chapter, am I right? And I don't see the need of having many gamplays in this game so far since it won't lead you to anything different. Maybe if he was working in only 1 game and delivering complete updates in a certain period of time he'd be getting more support than working in 2 different games at once.
Also he didn't complete a game yet but decide to rework on both. Where it all began, the original version, I don't remember of that game being finished, he decided to rework on it then.
You can't compare that to someone who has already delivered a complete game and is very reliable about completing the second with great quality.
I won't lie that I don't know if I will ever see the end of Oceanlab's game.
You can sum up both of of OL games and it won't make 1 BAD.
DPC delivers in every update:
A lot of achievements and hidden rewards.
Many routes with different content. (that are actually meaningful)
A lot of animations.
A well driven storyline.
A lot of minigames.
Besides you can tell the personality of every character. Reason why people tend to like and fall in love for certain characters.
Hours of gameplay, discussions, mystery.
who else can deliver any of that other than beautiful and good looking charaters? And don't get me wrong. I like Summer's gone, I just can't compare anything to BAD, because it is on a whole new level of creation.
Now criticize me, but remember, you were the ones who started this BAD - Summer's gone discussion, not me
I noticed, since a restart was required, that the young version of Summer vaguely resembles the adult Leah in the dev’s other game WIAB. So, I wonder if that is who Summer will look like if/when she reappears later.
However, who is the lady in black with the veil and cigarette holder who appears in background while at the bakery early in the game? Near as I can tell, she doesn’t resemble Leah…..
However, who is the lady in black with the veil and cigarette holder who appears in background while at the bakery early in the game? Near as I can tell, she doesn’t resemble Leah…..
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Man, the whiteknighting remains strong on this one.
I wish those people would understand that a) you can love a game and still find there are aspects to criticize, and b) no one would get any better at anything ever if people only buttered up to them.
Criticism is an important source for anybody working on a creative endeavour, and tbh, while I can understand wanting to defend something you like, IF you just react negatively to ANY criticism automatically, without being able to see if it is valid or not, maybe you aren't a big help to the dev at all, but really nothing but a disturbing factor in the game thread.
I wish those people would understand that a) you can love a game and still find there are aspects to criticize, and b) no one would get any better at anything ever if people only buttered up to them.
Criticism is an important source for anybody working on a creative endeavour, and tbh, while I can understand wanting to defend something you like, IF you just react negatively to ANY criticism automatically, without being able to see if it is valid or not, maybe you aren't a big help to the dev at all, but really nothing but a disturbing factor in the game thread.