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EvilMojito77

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So let me get this straight Ocean's reworking ch2 and did already rework ch1 for the steam release? If that's it good for him, he deserves it
 

rafaaa

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So let me get this straight Ocean's reworking ch2 and did already rework ch1 for the steam release? If that's it good for him, he deserves it
It seems the rework of chapter 2 is when he releases the chapter 4.5 and for steam is when he releases chapter 5.
 

Old Man Al

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I dont know about you guys, but i sur liked to see Sasha and Zara romancable... So far i didnt get the difference between Dark and Light side... Will it comes later?
I think the dark/light side stuff is removed with the rework. At least, as far as I have seen in the walkthrough, it is gone completly from the reworked chapter 1. And as it doesn't play a role in later chapters I guess it will be gone from the reworked chapter 2 as well.

Good thing too imo, there are already enough girl branches in there.
 
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I'm an impatient dude with too much free time atm, so better quickly forget about the game again, otherwise the wait for new content and story progression will be too painful. Beautiful renders, lots of great characters and interesting dates/events already teased. The time it will take until every LI gets their deserved attention. :HideThePain:

Still, this is Maja, Kate and Nojiko appreciation post.
 

nicholas88888

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This is a bit depressing the game looks fantastic but no scenes for three years. I get having a story I prefer it but give me something.
 
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Razrback16

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This is a bit depressing the game looks fantastic but no scenes for three years. I get having a story I prefer it but give me something.
Don't worry, you're not alone. I believe the scenes will come eventually, this game just prioritizes more realistic emotional / relationshp buildup. I'm looking forward to Amber relationship + scenes. :cool:

Hang in there.
 
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jamesonwulf

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Hey, I'm having a problem pertaining the sound in cutscenes and video's in your game.

The sound of cutscenes or videos that have their own audio build in don't play. I can see the the video and hear an intermittent cracking and popping noise but any other sound of the video is silent. I can hear the separate audio of the game like the music tracks or ambiant sounds, but not the one included in the webm file of the cutscene.
I extracted the archives and played the videos on my media player and there the sound was perfectly clear but in game it failed to be audible.

I'm playing your game on windows 7. Any help would be apreciated
 

Fortuna ღ

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Bella's breakdown probably doesn't change a lot, only upgrade Bella and the room but the rest is perfect, and Mila's bullying can be just her and the MC talking outside the cafeteria. My problem is with Victoria. She was a happy crazy girl in chapter 1 and 2 and now in the rework is... realistically normal. I prefer that, of course, old Victoria cringe me a lot, but now is practically a different character, and she needs more work than any of the others FMC in the game. I'm sure Oceans has thought about it and that's why chapter 4.5 and the rework of chapter 2 are coming together, but I'm worry 'cause Victoria can be the most important girl for the MC (not counting Nami), probably because Summer was the other side of the coin, a fatal accident instead, that's why the MC help her in the rehabilitation clinic and why she is the girl Oceans chose to have the same eraser than Summer, but just now is only a hot girl in a game with a lot of hot supermodel girls.
You're right about Vicky, she needs a lot of work. Right now, the personalities she displays in Chapters 1 & 2 are night and day. Her character is a lot more realistic and reacts the way you'd expect someone who just got paralyzed from the waist down to react. I mean it's normal to see people in denial, but she was still frighteningly positive for someone who'd just experienced a life-changing event.

About the most important girl, I think it's more about who you pursue. An argument can be made for Bella, seeing as both she and MC experienced a traumatic event when they were younger(that made them develop so many issues down the line), and like MC's said in the last update, they aren't two pieces of the same puzzle, they're the same piece. So far, Bella organically fits the best with the MC. She's also a better fit for him than any other girl(at least from what we've seen so far... still super early in the story). By the way, Bella's breakdown can change a lot. In which ways? We don't know. The rework of Chapter 1 changed her a lot, and she wasn't even given that much screentime. Chapter 2's different because she's basically in our face for most of the chapter.
 
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Sheepy Cloud

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The moment I saw that DnD (D&D? Whichever people use)-esque RPG (Roleplaying Game) gun, my immediate thought was:
That's a compensation gun!
 

NakedSingularity

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I really wish MC would knock up Nami already (before we all die of old age). I mean c'mon, he has a dry spell that needs to end and she's the best option. Incest is better than resorting to stick your dick in crazy and she wants his bad anyway.
 

LizaS

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Just finished the Summer's Gone update, as I didn't play since v3.5. Gotta say, for an update that took 11 months... it didn't disappoint. I went in like this update better be good and it atleast met my expectations.

Renders are phenomenal and MC is kinda coming out of his shell and is implied that he is bringing back his old attitude, so it's good and that's something.


The step-sister storyline is a nice addition so that MC being around more girls doesn't feel forced and feels natural because it is indeed an AVN. Not to mention MC and Zara's competitiveness with and against each other.

The other step-sis, Vanessa is going to be a force to be reckoned with. Her interactions with the MC felt like this anime-styled, who will big brain each other and who is more intelligent to win this game of chess.

Bella looked like she really didn't want to hit pause on their relationship and it feels like she wants more and she really misses him.

The
Nami lake scene AND jacuzzi scene might probably be the highlight of the update for me. Lake scene fortifies their relationship even more and jacuzzi scene advances their "physical" intimacy even more. Great scenes.

The tabletop game, I think gives bonding time and relationship points for Nadia, Nancy, and especially Sonya with her occasional glances towards MC and playfulness towards the figurines suggests likeness towards MC.


In the chapter 1 rework, the MC's interaction with the child with candies in the hospital scene and in another scene where MC took Bella's sandwich is a nice addition and gave a little humor to the story and a little personality to the MC.
It also added life into the environment. So it wouldn't feel like it's dead, the environment felt alive. I really liked it.


Also, just to bring up the render quality again... Ocean gave the background NPCs/characters unique faces and also made them hella attractive. No complaints here though.
But for those who despised the hella long development time the update took, this could be one of the things you could blame. It's unnecessary, although I liked it.
 

COOLMASTER

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hello all

HELLO OCEANLAB i really thanks to you for this amazing job's you do.

Very great job indeed, it takes a lot of times and effort indeed for remastering quality of this game, nothing to complain about it, you reached perfectly well and some caractere s are well reveled now. (little animation, slow motion place as well, many little détails not forget give a very immertion and a special atmosphere that i like to find in some game (like broken dreamer as exemple). In fact this game past in hight lvl renders, graphics and atmosphere.

The story and the multiple road issue offer of the mc's give a real interesting potential. But the developpement can be a little to slow and give the impression to start in any direction's...A big puzzle, but without progression on the main stories.

So many thing's stay hanging on...
what do the barber, inquieries on mc's, what he gona discovere ? does he gonna play a double game and a bad tricks to bella on mc s ? What about the thugs guy's reaction after mc's fighing ?

what about the date with victoria ?? she still in the shadows, as a second plan..

i m agree with some point of view. like victoria be in denial at the begining is totaly real aspcet and credible, but its also impossible to not have a depression mood time after a choc like this. And same she stay in denial postmind. Because the reality the trauma, make realise what s you loose and you have to past about normal psychologic process, denial, depression, anger, of what happen, and of course the cause of all this; what about marla's acting react against her. Time to resilience, pardon take a lot of time, and pardon steal already incertain. that can change mindstate people a lot, enough to be the opposite of what they are.....this is a normal psychologic human process.

Obviously mc's have a point of remember, a confrontation experiences with summer issue through the victoria case. Something he is not able to do with summer but maybe try to recover and heal by support and take care as victoria date or something like this...

Gives bella's road exclusivity for now is not completly out, bella change a lot and the mc s find someone who seam's to be the miror of him..inside and outside the buisness they do...
Also all time, story suggest harem or multiple choice road but without give any begining of issue or real decision into this.. Strange...give like floated feelings and down the story a bit

But above all this point, i really thinks time as come to stopping teasing and turn around. i mean's
some sex scene will be very welcome and not deserve the game at all..but make it growing up really. Especially if they rise up the story and interaction between caractere's.. mc's and nany have cross the line's for this..etc etc

So you said it can t !? because the Mc s have some traumatic experience ?

Well, there's enough beautifull woman for some girl / girl (like vanessa /nani after nani stay in trouble after the spa, for exemple) and some girl s interaction.

And so many situation for the mc's. Like Mc s and bella's mother.
The mc's patient fall in love to her therapsit, second mother , with give the teddy to the mc, interaction can't be neutral, they can cross the line for the mutliple reason, don't you think ? (in fact it s a bit case between mc's and nai relation)
Does she considerate him as own child ? as a sort of under oedipus complexe, she want realise it for his health, to cure and deliver him ? Developped a competiton beetwen bella's and her own mother for the mc's ? All this situation are credible and could give some spicy to the game.

or simply Bella and the mc's (in the logic on they relation grows, basic but a little be anoying, not ? ;))
And a lot of situation can open by some different road...

the important is not for me sex scene for sex scene, but give a rise up of this game....Until touch the star

i really thinks with a potential of this game . it s a shame stay in blue ball way......


What do you think Guy's ?
 

COOLMASTER

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This is no problem for me, i prefer a good written story more then lewd scenes wich are just a lil Bonus for me. Love the VN how it is. It makes the Lewds even more Special when it happens. Since this is not a Porn Logic VN this is the way to go. :unsure:
iI completely agree with you, but as I explain, one does not prevent the other and can enrich each other when they are creating a good axle just like animations..and of course turn this game in simply porn vn will be a complet desaster...
 

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Mild continuity thing, dunno how much it'll bother the dev, but when you go to the restaurant with Bella she has red nails, then as soon as you step outside and she's leaning on the car they go back to a natural colour and then stay that way for the rest of the evening.

Speaking of Bella I kinda wish it'd been the MC's choice on whether he agreed with her about if they could be together or not, especially as he admits that she's the reason he's changing... even if he thinks it'd go sour after the honeymoon phase I feel like it should be our choice where he falls on that side of things. (I'm presuming they can still end up together as it'd be silly otherwise, but that felt like an important moment and I really didn't vibe how it went down and there was no player agency).

I was by and large following the walkthrough mod's choices for a fresh playthrough... but I think whenever chapter 2 is redone I'll go back through and maybe do more of a pure Bella route as characters like Mila I'm not really interested in, I want to be nice and help her out but not lead her on about a date and things... if characters like Bella's mother (dear god I hope so, but I've got a feeling it's an unrealistic hope), Sasha, etc. become romancable I'll give them their own playthrough... prob should have one for Nami as I feel bad for her (though she's a bit of a dick for rocking Summer's haircut)... Nia and Ayua could be fun too.

Would be nice if he could figure out a way to stop cinematics being skipped when you've got transitions off, as having to keep toggling it each time does break you out of the story a bit, but it'd be unbearable to play with them left on given he's made every single render have a fade - you'd more than double the time you spend going through the game just due to those.

Oh and real minor thing, but isn't some of the character's fake eyelashes getting a little bit ridiculous as time goes on...

Cut to the wrong screen, when the parent is talking to MC and sister, before meeting her BF... but that could be a compressed or walkthrough mod issue.

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Mortarion

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Hey, I'm having a problem pertaining the sound in cutscenes and video's in your game.

The sound of cutscenes or videos that have their own audio build in don't play. I can see the the video and hear an intermittent cracking and popping noise but any other sound of the video is silent. I can hear the separate audio of the game like the music tracks or ambiant sounds, but not the one included in the webm file of the cutscene.
I extracted the archives and played the videos on my media player and there the sound was perfectly clear but in game it failed to be audible.

I'm playing your game on windows 7. Any help would be apreciated
It would be the best, if you take this into discord of Oceanlab
I I asume, that you getting there more and faster support than here! :)
 
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Mortarion

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Speaking of Bella I kinda wish it'd been the MC's choice on whether he agreed with her about if they could be together or not, especially as he admits that she's the reason he's changing... even if he thinks it'd go sour after the honeymoon phase I feel like it should be our choice where he falls on that side of things. (I'm presuming they can still end up together as it'd be silly otherwise, but that felt like an important moment and I really didn't vibe how it went down and there was no player agency).
Sure they end up together (if we want her as LI), unless the MC does something very stupid or we are forced to decide whether to take Bella or Nami, Mila, whoever we want out of the burning house at a certain little house BBQ ...

Either way, we should keep this handy, just i case Ocean is a sadistic bastard...

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Anyway, even if the MC decides to end the story with Bella, the game shows us that we are still on the Bella part, or what LI we preffer. The first one with Bella on the homescreen of the smarphone is shown after the, lets call it "one sided breakup" with Bella.

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NakedSingularity

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So when's Nami getiing knocked up by the
@Regium
It seems like your the dev and if you want developer tags you will need to pm one of the staff for it, @TCMS is one of them.

Incest is my main fetish and I hope there will be lots of kissing and maybe pregnancy later in the VN.:p:love::giggle:
Downloading now.
Be prepared to be disappointed, as it's posssibly quicker to corrupt/seduce/fuck/inpregnate your sis in real life and the screen before the title states as much. And yeah wondering when Nami is getting knocked up by the MC. It makes me wish AVN's and particularly MC and other character personalities were optionally written by AI after answering a bunch of questions during an intro. Ie if you are like me and knocked up and married your sis in real life (incest isn't just a fantasy fetish) you can make your MC as close to the real life you as possible for those that are into realistic AVN's (in my case Nami and MC would be less hesitant to fuck and give less of a shit what anyone else thinks of it after, depending on story setting and whether it's legal there or not, it is in Ohio). And even if that would make walkthrough's impossible as then virtually every playthrough would be unique. It's a shame that Renpy probably can't handle something like running AI in the background.
 
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