VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Lurcher1]

All I, and really anyone else can say... is that he managed to release 2 updates this year. That's a huge improvement from what it was previously. Before this update, it took an entire year to release something. I feel like if he were to put WIAB on hold, he'd be far more efficient, but sadly... that's one hill he's willing to die on. So what can we really do about it? My view is that if he'd focused on SG, we would have gotten updates every 4 months(at most), or every 2.5 months(at least). This is when you look at how much time he actually spends developing each update(he alternates between SG and WIAB). SG probably would've been more popular and more profitable, he'd have had more patrons(because of how he seemingly delivers on his projects), etc. I'd hate to see this game take a negative turn at any point in the future... but in order to move forward, some sacrifices have to be made.

Had the same thoughts. I think the best solution to this would be to release parts in smaller packages. Like every 5 episodes = a part or something. It's 10 episodes right now(because 10 episodes = 1 season), but unless the episodes start coming out faster, I think he should make the parts smaller. I mean he can always change things later on, but this is just my personal view on thatღ

Or, he reduces the amount of animations he uses. I get that some are used as set pieces to try to add depth, but some of them aren't really necessary to the overall story itself. Did you really need the animation after the MC was hangcuffed to the wall for example? From what I remember, one of the animations was keyed to the rhythm of a certain song that he later had to remove because they revoked consent. That's a hell of a lot of work put in. I believe he's also removing the Nami punch and Sai punch scenes again citing copyright problems.

Agh, what do I know

 

[Saramago]

I'm not convinced about that, the visuals seem to be at the limit right now, very few games come close to it. If you look at the majority of games on here their visuals are still at the level (or lower) than the chapters Ocean is reworking. I'd say there's only 3 or 4 devs who could achieve the level of Ocean's visuals and as they're (understandably due to quality level) pretty slow with the updates I don't think even they will surpass Ocean enough for another rework.

Visuals will improve but not by much as there not much room, unless we're going into the uncanny valley which would probably look very off.

I feel like the biggest change will be that there'll be more and more (and longer) animations. VNs will eventually become an animated version of Life Selector

 

[the slayer]

when is the next update

 

[McGreed]

when is the next update

I swear to God, these guys will never stop with their questions about release date
You know that you can spend ~5 minutes by reading previous pages and try to find the answers for your questions?
I'll save your time, relax. The release is very soon, WIAB is in postwork and testing stage. After that, Summer's Gone will be released as well, presumably end of October.
At least I hope so, I really want to watch how Ocean will ban that poor guy (forgot his name, I'm sorry).

 

[Razrback16]

I can understand and totaly agree with the desire for more frequent updates, but why do you guys want this show to end? Everybody blaming the developer for his "unrealistic" plan of 30 episodes and thus not being able to complete the game in a reasonable amount of time, but to me that means he has a lot in store to keep us entertained for a long time to come.
Let's say, the Acting Lessons and Leap of Faith are great games but they've already been completed. Would you play it again after you completed all the routes and know that there will be no further development of the plot? Didn't you feel that their ending was a bit artificial, so many story arcs were just cut off, so many characters were left undeveloped.
For me the SG is an ongoing show I like to watch occasionly.

Ya I'm glad this game is going to be longer, hopefully a more detailed, deeper story to go along with better romantic relationships. Nothing wrong with shorter games, but I personally like the longer more detailed ones with more romance buildup, etc. instead of just instant sex as we see in so many games.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Yes it stops and will be/is already reworked, just because some certain thin skinned, always offended feeling snowflakes on steam or here, could feel butthurt about a random ridiculous excuse.

It has nothing to do with being offended, it comes off as amateurish, like a tryhard edgy 14yo wroth it. Luckily even Ocean seems to agree, since he apparently is taking writing classes and is reworking stuff.

 

[Night Hacker]

It will be eventually, it's just not possible that it will ever be completed, sadly.

 

[Night Hacker]

So I'm in chapter 2, and I have to know... does the writing ever stop using fag, retard, and racial slurs in conversations or no?

I've seen absolutely no racial slurs in the game.

 

[Night Hacker]

when is the next update

 

[Fun Shaundi]

The game gets about 1 chapter a year and 30 are planned, do you really believe someone could work on a VN for another 26+ years?

Oh okay. Yeah I can see why you're concerned about it. But I gonna list you some points here:

- So far, Ocean has been constant. And this while working on 2 games (I personally don't understand it cause I'd work on just one, but that's part of his creative process and I respect it). He updates regularly and has communication with others, I doubt he would drop it and disappear. If anything, he has devoted himself to Summer's Gone (And fans of Where it all Began complain that he loves and dedicates more time to SG than WiAB).

- There are other games on the site that have not gone through a remaster, and they have been more than 3 years without having significant advances on dialogue and choices. On the other hand, Ocean is remastering 2 games. For SG I personally didn't get it, but it's veeeeery evident in WiAB, and I can tell the remaster looks waaaaay better, and the tweaks in the sotry and characters are better.

- I think it's worth the wait, since Ocean's renders are not visually stunning, they have animations, cinematic, good music. If you're looking for a quick game to jerk off it's fine, but since the beginning Ocean stated that this is gonna be slow burn and focus on character's stories, good dialogue and careful detailed scenarios.

- Latest updates took longer cause, just like it happened to DPC (Being a DIK) they had to change their whole soundtracks cause suddenly some artists weren't okay with their work being on adult VNs.

Ocean is a perfectionist, which can be a double edged sword, but again, so far he has delivered. Ever since the 2 games remasters I haven't play any of them in which I felt he could have done better.

Making calculations about when he's gonna finish the story is useless, in my opinion. He could end up delivering shorter chapters, or backtracking and releasing less of them. I used to think Leap of Faith was going to take a while and it was completed already, so I dunno, I'll just wait and see. So far he hasn't given me the feeling he's going to abandon it, only that he's a perfectionist.

 

[DanThaMan]

I'm not convinced about that, the visuals seem to be at the limit right now, very few games come close to it. If you look at the majority of games on here their visuals are still at the level (or lower) than the chapters Ocean is reworking. I'd say there's only 3 or 4 devs who could achieve the level of Ocean's visuals and as they're (understandably due to quality level) pretty slow with the updates I don't think even they will surpass Ocean enough for another rework.

Are you sure about that? This game will be dated by then if other games are gonna be rendered by RTX 9090 graphics cards, obviously Ocean is going to upgrade and his newer renders will be better than the older ones and he will go back and redo them again..

 

[Ilhares]

Are you sure about that? This game will be dated by then if other games are gonna be rendered by RTX 9090 graphics cards, obviously Ocean is going to upgrade and his newer renders will be better than the older ones and he will go back and redo them again..

It doesn't usually matter if you're using an RTX 1060 or a 4090, your render quality will generally be the same - the main difference is the rendering speed. Granted, having more raw rendering horsepower available may lead to an increase in model polygon detail, and thus some artists will generate higher quality stuff as a result, but I don't think it's going to be a real danger in the lifetime of a game. The best thing an artist can do (generally) is not muck-up the appearances of characters between updates, and save any re-render work for later.

 

[DanThaMan]

It doesn't usually matter if you're using an RTX 1060 or a 4090, your render quality will generally be the same - the main difference is the rendering speed. Granted, having more raw rendering horsepower available may lead to an increase in model polygon detail, and thus some artists will generate higher quality stuff as a result, but I don't think it's going to be a real danger in the lifetime of a game. The best thing an artist can do (generally) is not muck-up the appearances of characters between updates, and save any re-render work for later.

Yet we are already seeing Ocean restart from the beginning with his other game to update it visually..

 

[Lurcher1]

Well, he is redoing the early 2 chapters when he worked with Regium on them. The difference between Chapter 2 (and the old Chapter 1) and the rest is huge. The Chapter 1 re-work is so much mrore alive with all the extra people in the various scenes not to mention expanded scope to do some foreshadowing (we see various characters yet to be introduced as well as Maja's clapped out Beetle). I hope Ocean does a lot more foreshadowing for future chapters...

 

[Ilhares]

Yet we are already seeing Ocean restart from the beginning with his other game to update it visually..

Let's be fair here: that's not just redoing renders, it's basically a different game with character and plot changes. It's his project and he can certainly do as he wishes, but those changes weren't brought about just because he got his hands on better rendering hardware.

 

[Turret]

It doesn't usually matter if you're using an RTX 1060 or a 4090, your render quality will generally be the same - the main difference is the rendering speed.

That is quite true. Even with internal GPU or complete CPU rendering you can get gorgeous pics, but the speed will be very different.

 

[teers82]

4 chapters later and the intro page still says the version doesn't contain any lewd scenes. is this accurate?

 

[Kassandara]

4 chapters later and the intro page still says the version doesn't contain any lewd scenes. is this accurate?

Yes. As it has been said many times; Ocean really wants to build up the characters and relationships (which I really do like myself). It's more of a story-driven game with "adult content", not a porn game.
If you are here only to fap, I suggest trying out other games.

 

[Razrback16]

4 chapters later and the intro page still says the version doesn't contain any lewd scenes. is this accurate?

No full sex scenes yet. There are some scenes where women are naked, though. There are some sexual / romantic scenes that don't include full sex acts yet (like a girl sitting on MC in a sexual manner in a few difference scenarios, and another where one of them the girl is only wearing a thong with her legs wrapped around MC). Hope this helps.

If you haven't played the game, I'd strongly recommend giving it a try. You'll probably find you enjoy it and especially where it's obviously leading to. The game is simply written in a manner to try to more properly develop the world and characters in a more believable manner versus most VNs, which should give the relationships more feeling for the player.

 

[Night Hacker]

Are you sure about that? This game will be dated by then if other games are gonna be rendered by RTX 9090 graphics cards, obviously Ocean is going to upgrade and his newer renders will be better than the older ones and he will go back and redo them again..

If he has a 9090, than I guess he'll be able to render his scenes FASTER and so it won't take as long... will it?! In any event, if people get tired of waiting they can move on to something else and leave those of us who like this alone as I am sure most don't want to see the whining and moaning from the whiney little girls in here.