Kassandara
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Ocean said that season 2 won't be available on Steam, so we know what that meansThat will probably depend on the content, hopefully it will not be available
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Envy*
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No...Ocean said that season 2 won't be available on Steam, so we know what that means
Kassandara
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I don't take this as Season 2 will not be available on Steam for everyone, just for Germany in compliance with what I feel are outdated restrictions. I'm not sure how many of us want the cliff notes versus the full 'story' when Season 2 reaches full on sexy times..
I'm not sure if the Japanese version of censorship (blurring everything involving the groin area) will work here. (Perhaps there is a way to have an 'Unsexy' patch applied to Steam content for Germany). I feel bad for suggesting this (an 'unsexy' patch) but I want Ocean to be able to reach the largest audience possible and I enjoy Season 1 far more than most AVNs that already have sexy time in them.
In this case, being one of those 'degenerate Americans' may not be such a bad deal...
Old Man Al
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If Steam does something with all the money they get thrown at them and develops a functional age certification instead of shitty controllers and other useless stuff...it was more of a "don't tell..." kind of no.
By the way, is it permanent or not ?
The problem are less German restrictions, e.g. no one is giving a flying fuck if we use uncensor patches or play Hitman and other 18+ games (I even got 18+ stuff delivered from Japan directly and the only thing the toll office wanted to know was, if I am over 18), but stress about the age verification on Steam. Steam went the easy way and blocked most adult stuff for Germany and several other nations which have the same thoughts about age verification. That this is simply a shoddy work by Valve.I don't take this as Season 2 will not be available on Steam for everyone, just for Germany in compliance with what I feel are outdated restrictions. I'm not sure how many of us want the cliff notes versus the full 'story' when Season 2 reaches full on sexy times..
I'm not sure if the Japanese version of censorship (blurring everything involving the groin area) will work here. (Perhaps there is a way to have an 'Unsexy' patch applied to Steam content for Germany). I feel bad for suggesting this (an 'unsexy' patch) but I want Ocean to be able to reach the largest audience possible and I enjoy Season 1 far more than most AVNs that already have sexy time in them.
In this case, being one of those 'degenerate Americans' may not be such a bad deal...
Fun Shaundi
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Man, don't tell me this, I gonna move from another country to Germany soon-ish
This sucks.Well, unfortunately that is so. Steam went the easy and cheap way. And botched even this with controllers who I have no idea what they do and why. For instance, some games with 18+ sex inside are still available on German Steam (already in or with uncensor patches) and then there are games like "Max´s bigger bust" which is a spoof, has zero sex scenes and - is not buyable!Man, don't tell me this, I gonna move from another country to Germany soon-ish
On the other hand, as I said, some games got through even with sex still in it. Totally fucked system.That sucks for you guys in Germany with oppressive laws. Well, at least you can circumvent this bullshit with a VPN and F95 and if you find ways to support Ocean along the way, great.
As said, the problem is less the German laws (which can be quite forgiving on some things), even if Steam tries to paint it that way sometimes, but their cheap and easy solution to the verification problem they have with several nations.
Ilhares
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Make sure you keep your steam account region listed as something other than Germany, you should be okay. They aren't, in my experience, limiting you based on your IP range, because people usr VPNs all the time.Man, don't tell me this, I gonna move from another country to Germany soon-ish
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Uriel ☁
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It's not our law. It's a law of the European Union, but only for german based customers Valve act like this. If the law would be the problem no one in the EU could buy these games on Steam.
D3xzalias
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Domestic laws and European laws are very different and this is a law of Germany and valve has to abide to it otherwise it can't sell games in Germany.
And it has to do with age rating since Germany is very strict on it. Since everyone can fill in there birthday as 1-1- 1900 Valve said fuck it not going to follow that strict protocol just not gonna sell those games
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No, that's wrong. I know Valve told this story to everyone who asks about their shitty behavior but they lie. They lie straight in your face. But it is what it is. The more you told a lie the more people believe this lie. In fact there are ways to buy at Steam these games if you're in Germany. I did this myself more than once. All you need is VPN.
Wildehilde
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Most germans get their game from us in Austria anyway. Like it happened back in the L4D area time. Where they had to censor shit in Germany lol.
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Damn, I love the Chetto, although kind of reminds me as myself with her crude humor haha
Hmm, kinda weird. I was just reading through a few writeups on this and maybe those were wrong (I admittedly am not that familiar with this issue). Sounds like the beef is with the age verification - Germany wants Steam to enforce a more stringent policy and Steam basically says fk you. I see both sides of the argument if that's the case.
Assuming that what I said above is the crux of the issue, I applaud Germany trying to make sure little kids aren't getting access to adult material, but on the other hand, Steam shouldn't have to change their system, and I'm not a fan of draconian censorship measures, either - the last thing we need is more regulation & oversight, parents simply need to be responsible for what their kids are doing. I say punish the parents for not regulating what their kids are doing - don't trust them not to access porn, then don't give them unsupervised access to the internet, or a cell phone, etc.
If I lived in Germany, the way I'd look at this though, is "great, free games for me" - I'd just use my trusty VPN and pirate everything - F95 for adult content, and Fitgirl repacks for everything else - I'd look at it like, ok German government, you don't want me to be able to buy stuff...then I won't. German government won't get the tax revenue on purchases that they've banned, and Steam will miss out on those purchases as well - lose lose for German government + Steam, and win for consumer.