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That's another thing. Emotion. The whole reason many of the audience flocked to Bella was because of her interactions with the MC. It was somewhat obvious that she was putting up a front and wasn't really a bad person. Her interactions and dialogue in the previous version did a good job of showing that. Her interactions with the MC in this new version... don't carry the same emotional weight as the previous version. In the previous version, their interactions functioned as a buildup to her confrontation with MC at the mention of her sister. You could feel the pain and raw emotion in her dialogue, and when she choked MC, we, as the audience, knew how unstable she was. Now, in this rework, the overall feel of that scene is not there. The confrontation changed too much, and not in a way that benefits their subplot. The old scene showed everyone that maybe this girl is a little unstable. The new scene didn't do as good of a job conveying that. Oceans should have just upgraded the renders/art and fixed the grammar within the dialogue. All of those changes weren't needed. At least when it comes to that scene.
I don't agree with you on this one. I think the changes were necessary in order to bring both Bella and the MC closer to the characters they are in the newest chapters. Even before the rework, there was a noticeable change in both of their behavior with the start of Ch3, which could be argued was the start of Summer's Gone 2.0. The MC became less of an edgelord, while Bella went from a psycho to a more relatable character that she consistently is from Ch3 onward. The older version might have been more emotional/raw, but those characters were not really the same as the ones we know from the new chapters. The back and forth between them is still pretty much there and with the rest of the rework I think the whole story is just going to flow so much better than it did before.
 
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I wish Ocean just improved the quality of the renders and left everything else as is.
Maybe. There were some things added that I think deserved to be added though. On the porch, with Nojiko I feel is important to include, she's supposed to be very important to the MC after all. Adding the scene where Nami is caring and nurturing during his panic attack at school, important IMHO, as it is driven home pretty hard in Ch 1 that they care a lot for each other and are there for each other.

Most things I would say should've been left alone though and just made to look better graphically.

A critique I do have to one of the remade scenes - to me the scene where Nami jumps on your lap in your room, feels off now, the sexual tension build up is now removed where she gives you shit by asking if you have a boner, the MC gives her shit back by asking something about her nipple, you can't tell her she's cute(yea I understand that Nami doesn't always believe the MC when he tells her that stuff but there are workarounds and dialogue maneuvering/reactions you could still do to make it fit, in Chapter 3.5 when you compliment her she takes them nicely, in Chapter 4 she doesn't believe the MC so I think telling her she's cute in Chapter 2 still could've stayed), and the playfulness now feels a bit cheap, it feels way more like he's just blowing Nami off now and just wants to get rid of her, without any of the aforementioned stuff that was previously there in the old version. I feel like this being removed now doesn't set up the sexual tension buildup between them that comes on even stronger in later chapters.
 
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Maybe. There were some things added that I think deserved to be added though. On the porch, with Nojiko I feel is important to include, she's supposed to be very important to the MC after all. Adding the scene where Nami is caring and nurturing during his panic attack at school, important IMHO, as it is driven home pretty hard in Ch 1 that they care a lot for each other and are there for each other.

Most things I would say should've been left alone though and just made to look better graphically.

A critique I do have to one of the remade scenes - to me the scene where Nami jumps on your lap in your room, feels off now, the sexual tension build up is now removed where she gives you shit by asking if you have a boner, the MC gives her shit back by asking something about her nipple, you can't tell her she's cute(yea I understand that Nami doesn't believe the MC when he tells her that stuff but there are workarounds and dialogue maneuvering/reactions you could still do to make it fit), and the playfulness now feels a bit cheap, it feels way more like he's just blowing Nami off now and just wants to get rid of her, without any of the aforementioned stuff that was previously there in the old version. I feel like this being removed now doesn't set up the sexual tension buildup between them that comes on even stronger in later chapters.
I don't disagree with anything you've said, but this update tried to articulate too much of the story. IMO. It really destroyed much of the intrigue. It's still one of the best AVN's but damn.... this is a set back.

It's like Ocean is trying to explain too much about the story in these scenes, and well, imo sometimes it's better left as a mystery.

Also i was sad when choosing to date Victoria and breaking Mila's heart in the cafe.... I mean :cry: The original game never made this hardliner.
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I don't agree with you on this one. I think the changes were necessary in order to bring both Bella and the MC closer to the characters they are in the newest chapters. Even before the rework, there was a noticeable change in both of their behavior with the start of Ch3, which could be argued was the start of Summer's Gone 2.0. The MC became less of an edgelord, while Bella went from a psycho to a more relatable character that she consistently is from Ch3 onward. The older version might have been more emotional/raw, but those characters were not really the same as the ones we know from the new chapters. The back and forth between them is still pretty much there and with the rest of the rework I think the whole story is just going to flow so much better than it did before.
You missed the point here I think. Bella and MC are different characters at the start. They both suffered a similar trauma that left deep wounds on their souls/psyche. The two of them meet at school, develop a relationship and both are able to start healing.

I would also point out that the reworked versions of these two characters are more tame than what we get in chapter 3/3.5. Play through the haircut/shopping/date scenes and tell me otherwise. I don't think this does your flow/continuity argument any favors.
 
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Ch.4.5 Full
- Added 979 new Renders to Chapter 2
- Added 2 animations to Chapter 2.
- Added 17 new renders to Chapter 3. (Removed the Said Fight cinematic.)
- Re-rendered 300+ renders for Chapter 3.5. (More on this in a future Dev Log.)
- Added 6 new licensed music tracks.
- Finished removing all music that would've needed to be removed in the future. (Including the cinematics music.)
- Added 6 new licensed music tracks.
- Applied a big amount of proofreading to all Chapters.
That means I have to start over from Chapter 1, right?
 
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I don't disagree with anything you've said, but this update tried to articulate too much of the story. IMO. It really destroyed much of the intrigue. It's still one of the best AVN's but damn.... this is a set back.

It's like Ocean is trying to explain too much about the story in these scenes, and well, imo sometimes it's better left as a mystery.

Also i was sad when choosing to date Victoria and breaking Mila's heart in the cafe.... I mean :cry: The original game never made this hardliner.
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does not matter what you pick at the cafe. she says its both ways.
 

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I do agree that Bella was more unpredictable in previous version and I did like that because it kept me more focused on her story/past. Now, while I do love some aspects of the rework in ch.2 she did lost that edginess. But I guess we can't always get what we desire.
 
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To those interested

Compendium of Sasha being suspicious as fuck:

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...and Sasha simply looking like MC is the most wonderful person who ever existed:

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Can't wait to see who she really is.

EDIT: She only joins the gym and sends Robin to lure MC in if you have shown interest in Bella, if you don't Robin doesn't invite you to join them. What does that tell you?
I fucking Love Sasha's Sweet moments especially the one before the Basketball match.

Also are you sure Number 1 exists I've replayed about 10 times now with slightly different choices and haven't been able to get an image of Sasha at the table to provide you with.
 

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I don't disagree with anything you've said, but this update tried to articulate too much of the story. IMO. It really destroyed much of the intrigue. It's still one of the best AVN's but damn.... this is a set back.

It's like Ocean is trying to explain too much about the story in these scenes, and well, imo sometimes it's better left as a mystery.

Also i was sad when choosing to date Victoria and breaking Mila's heart in the cafe.... I mean :cry: The original game never made this hardliner.
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You get that if you decline Victoria's date in the cafe too, so I'm assuming it's about the confrontation with the uppity clique that picks on Mila. I remember getting Vic saying this too and I declined Vic in my PT at the cafe. Mila is the one that suggested you two go out in the first place so she shouldn't be too broken up about it :HideThePain:
 

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Also i was sad when choosing to date Victoria and breaking Mila's heart in the cafe.... I mean :cry: The original game never made this hardliner.
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You're wrong. Twice.

1. Mila is sad because she was bullied by the retarded fuckers. It doesn't have anything to do with MC & Vic.

2. Mila telling MC that she won't date MC because MC is dating Vic happens in the old version too.
 

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I fucking Love Sasha's Sweet moments especially the one before the Basketball match.

Also are you sure Number 1 exists I've replayed about 10 times now with slightly different choices and haven't been able to get an image of Sasha at the table to provide you with.
It's in the rework so make sure you're playing the latest version with the chapter 2 rework. It's when a random girl comes up to you in the food hall and asks if you wanna join the theater class. It's also just before you go out and beanpole pretends she's trying to fight you.
 

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It's in the rework so make sure you're playing the latest version with the chapter 2 rework. It's when a random girl comes up to you in the food hall and asks if you wanna join the theater class. It's also just before you go out and beanpole pretends she's trying to fight you.
Yeah I downloaded the rework version like 3 days after it dropped on here so it's been the only version I've played as i deleted The 4 5 Beta when the update dropped. I haven't been getting any image missing errors either also not been getting any an exception has occured either. It's like it's skipping past that render or something and I just don't get why.
 
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