BobTheDuck

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The thing is Ocean is working on 2 games. Both of them get updates one after the other and deliver a buncha renders roughly 2000, few hundred renders up or down. Than Ocean is(was) working on SG reworks, planning on how to rework, etc. too side by side. So saying it that Ocean is milking or not working hard is bullshit (I know you didn't said it, just addressing to everyone;)). Plus Steam release sucks blood. And Ocean is solo developer. Does it suck for us fellas? Absolutely! Hopefully season 2 will fix some of the issues at least rework. But Ocean absolutely needs to keep his goal realistic. Not to forget that Wiab and SG are 2 out of 5 games from this universe with SG having at least 30 chapters:WutFace:.

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Earliest mention of the 5 planned games I know of was Jan 2020. So this is a known thing, it's not a new change. I applaud more content, but I don't think he'll be doing any work on PLF until these current two are done: one of the biggest problems of developing both SG and WiaB is that SG has to avoid being to clear about what has happened before, or it spoils WiaB too much. Right now we know Katie, Ayua's mum, Elena, Zoey Emilio and Gefritzel the snake survive. That will change the tension we notice in WiaB, as we know whether they're around or not. Mainly G of course, the true MVP.
 
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They were short 5 years ago, when updates came out once a month. Updates with 300-400 renders for 10 minutes of gameplay, opened in 720p window. Objectively speaking, it's much better now. Even if they are released rarely, there are 3-4 hours of gameplay with high-quality visuals. VNs like evolved from PS2 to PS5 in several years.
Yeah, I kinda miss those days (2018-20) when I could pirate an AVN I liked at least once or twice a week :). Now, it's like a small handful of AVNs one or twice (if lucky) a year. However, there's no doubt that the average quality has increased in that time.
 

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Earliest mention of the 5 planned games I know of was Jan 2020. So this is a known thing, it's not a new change. I applaud more content, but I don't think he'll be doing any work on PLF until these current two are done: one of the biggest problems of developing both SG and WiaB is that SG has to avoid being to clear about what has happened before, or it spoils WiaB too much. Right now we know Katie, Ayua's mum, Elena, Zoey Emilio and Gefritzel the snake survive. That will change the tension we notice in WiaB, as we know whether they're around or not. Mainly G of course, the true MVP.
I so just wanna know the full story. Fuck you Einstein, You should've made a time machine *Me poking my microwave, phusshhh*.
 
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I'm enjoying my new playthrough of Summers Gone and the new/changed dialogue.

Ocean did a nice job adding in some humor to a number of scenes.

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The rework definitely added more good humor to the mix.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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Please someone tell me what oceans is smoking or drinking to say he plans on having 5 VN in the same universe is quite possible the dumbest thing I have ever seen
 

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I'm enjoying my new playthrough of Summers Gone and the new/changed dialogue.

Ocean did a nice job adding in some humor to a number of scenes.

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The rework definitely added more good humor to the mix.

Cheers!! :coffee:
it seems that there is a sentient snake and with the capabilities of an SCP. :KEK:
 
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Hi i am new to this game and i want to know is this type of story focused game were you can pick what girl you want to be with or the type where you can date multiple girls but at the end you must chose who you want to be with
 

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Well, for one, I'm waiting for the non-beta patch. Since it's based on a completely separate script, there's a good chance that some of the original nude or semi-nude renders are also back.

Please someone tell me what oceans is smoking or drinking to say he plans on having 5 VN in the same universe is quite possible the dumbest thing I have ever seen
Right, because The Lord of the Rings, The Earthsea series, The Song of Fire and Ice series and others of the world-building kind of series are soo dumb and unsuccessful? :sneaky:
 

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i'm probably gonna play through without any patron version or patch then I will do the other playthroughs with said patch once I do buy it on steam. Unsure if I want to buy it this month or wait as im not really ready to replay the game right now
 

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Hi i am new to this game and i want to know is this type of story focused game were you can pick what girl you want to be with or the type where you can date multiple girls but at the end you must chose who you want to be with
its chaotic clown fiesta at the moment, where the developer has no clear vision of the future regarding his project. Come after 4-5 years later if the vn wouldnt be abandoned by that time.
 

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I will say even tho 1 update a year does sucks for us SG fans especially considering he works on 2 games is still a little impressive to me. Cause there are devs out that work on only 1 game and still only manage 1 per year but I suppose Ocean does have more rendering PC's than some devs so that helps.
I'm not sure where this "one update a year" bollocks comes from.

Anyone that actually looks at all the SG releases knows that's not really correct.

See the 'SG Table' in:

https://f95zone.to/threads/sg-off-topic-discussion.112868/

In the last year (i.e. 12 months) alone, Ocean released a 2,400+ render update and a 2,150+ render update for SG, plus a 1,970 render update for WIAB.

With all the reworking done, some people confuse story progression with updates.
 

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I am happy and sad at the same time. It's very nice that DEV finally managed to get the game on Steam but at the same time I'm very sad that all this time between the last release and the new release there has been absolutely zero content. First of all I don't count the remake of some existing stuff as new content!!!
Have you played SG CH 5 B?

Have you played SG Season 1 Full from the beginning?

If you did you would see a number of changes in the AVN.

I think the Holgerson heist scenes (now 2 instead of 1) are much better, for example.

There is new content - regardless of how you label it.

Play it or not, there are a number of changes that make the story flow better and, IMO, some great humor added.

I repeated see people claiming that there is no new content when in fact, there is: it starts with 2,000+ renders added/reworked, new dialogue, new cinematics, new music.

Now - the Story has not advanced beyond what we have at the end of CH 5 B - something Everyone knows since Ocean has made the focus of this update clear since CH 5 B went live - finishing the polish of Summers Gone Season 1 so it could go live on Steam.

Ocean has already been working on Season 2, new Story content and new renders (OC) and we will start to receive more previews now that Steam is live.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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its chaotic clown fiesta at the moment, where the developer has no clear vision of the future regarding his project. Come after 4-5 years later if the vn wouldnt be abandoned by that time.
For the second time today, I'm gonna say to someone... from your mouth to God's ears!

On what evidence do you base your bold statement on, pray tell? Because it's nothing the Dev has said or done in the last few of years. He has exhibited the opposite, in fact, proceeding with his own vision for his story (only bending to conform to the constraints imposed by third-party service suppliers), despite the constant nay-saying from some quarters.
 
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